The official TST I like guns thread.

[~Brian~]

This holster has gotten nothing but great reviews. It conceals well, and is supposed to be super comfortable. I'm waiting for mine as we speak:

Crossbreed SuperTuck Deluxe (http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/Holsters/IWBInsideWaistBand/tabid/56/CategoryID/1/List/0/Level/1/ProductID/1/Default.aspx?SortField=UnitCost+DESC%2cProductName )

Yeah I keep hearing about this holster but tbh, its is too large for me and wayyy too expensive.

Maybe when I'm not a full time student I could afford something like that.. haha

[11secdsm]

also forgot to mention i was at CP for a few hours today, put 3 or 400 rounds through the two glock 19's and the baretta 9mm.

WTF??? :mad:

[BradC]

very nice! i'm not too fond of full size guns in general, but my dad's G17 was a nice gun to shoot. if only it was as easy to install night sights on my M&P as it is on your glock i'd have a nice set of Trijicons already!

Thank you. I don't have a problem concealing a full-size, and wanted to try one of the new Gen 4 Glocks (my first Glock) and they don't as of yet make a Glock 19 Gen 4. I think I am going to pick up a 26 eventually too.

M&P was the other pistol on my list. Like yours?

[Bane]

wait.... did someone actually say they don't leave one in the pipe when they carry?

where's that picture of the lol wut pear when I need it

[Tiny]

wait.... did someone actually say they don't leave one in the pipe when they carry?

where's that picture of the lol wut pear when I need it

On one hand, I can see why a first time guy may be a little intimidated carrying with a round chambered, but that is what WE are for. Once we bully him into the right method, he will realize that it is the right thing to do. :)

[ASIAN JUL]

Concealed carrying unloaded for self defense is silly. The only thing an unloaded gun might do is be a visual deterrent if you were open carrying. Save money for a good holster. :) Cheap, crappy holsters are as pointless as the unloaded gun you'd be carrying :wink:

[~Brian~]

On one hand, I can see why a first time guy may be a little intimidated carrying with a round chambered, but that is what WE are for. Once we bully him into the right method, he will realize that it is the right thing to do. :)

I suppose I should thank you then.

haha

[Jeffros Spec V]

Yeah I keep hearing about this holster but tbh, its is too large for me and wayyy too expensive.

Maybe when I'm not a full time student I could afford something like that.. haha


Look into Kholster. They make knockoffs of the crossbreed for about 1/2 the price.
www.kholster.com

They have a sale for $39/shipped.

[ASIAN JUL]

LOL @ Crossbread :-p

[Munky]

Concealed carrying unloaded for self defense is silly. The only thing an unloaded gun might do is be a visual deterrent if you were open carrying. Save money for a good holster. :) Cheap, crappy holsters are as pointless as the unloaded gun you'd be carrying :wink:

Listen to Julz! She has absolutely no experience with what she speaks. :bigeek: :roll: :rofl:

[cmr076]

WTF??? :mad:

i went at noon for battistas b-day! i figured you wouldnt miss a day at the shop that early. sowwwwyyyy were going again next week and i will definitely call you sweety! lets take your truck and fill it with all the assault rifles at jons house! (he just bought a G3 and a full length bushmaster ar :lol:)

[~Brian~]

I think I'm going to go with the holster with the black metal clip. I spoke to the manufacturer and he said that he will custom mold it to my XDM. The only problem is that the thing costs like $60, so I want to wait until my permit approval comes in before I make the investment.

http://www.tennesseeholstercompany.com/Iwb.htm

And no, I have not been walking around with a concealed weapon...

[Jeffros Spec V]

i think i'm going to go with the holster with the black metal clip. I spoke to the manufacturer and he said that he will custom mold it to my xdm. The only problem is that the thing costs like $60, so i want to wait until my permit approval comes in before i make the investment.

http://www.tennesseeholstercompany.com/iwb.htm

and no, i have not been walking around with a concealed weapon...

ltcf....

[~Brian~]

ltcf....

Absolutely, I wouldn't dare to carry without one..

[DC2.2GSR]

/\ /\ yup. call it a license to carry (firearms), not a permit.

good choice on the holster. i would still recommend a kydex/leather two clip model like one of comp-tac's or the crossbreed, but if you're set on the single clip design i think the one you chose should work great. most people who carry end up owning a closet full of holsters anyway. lol.

as far as waiting on the LTCF to come in before ordering... i wouldn't wait at all. custom holsters usually take many weeks to be made so you might as well get a head start. PA is a "shall issue" state, not a "may issue" like other states. in other words, you are guaranteed to be given your LTCF unless they can prove that you are disqualified by law. if you're a convicted felon, you're not getting your LTCF. if you're not.. you get it. it's that simple.

[~Brian~]

PA is a "shall issue" state, not a "may issue" like other states. in other words, you are guaranteed to be given your LTCF unless they can prove that you are disqualified by law. if you're a convicted felon, you're not getting your LTCF. if you're not.. you get it. it's that simple.

That is similar to what the guy at the gun shop told me when I was waiting for approval for me to buy my XDM. He said that if I was approved for the gun, I will def be approved for the license.

This is true then?

[DC2.2GSR]

That is similar to what the guy at the gun shop told me when I was waiting for approval for me to buy my XDM. He said that if I was approved for the gun, I will def be approved for the license.

This is true then?

absolutely. it avoids potential problems where certain people in positions of power could review the application and deny it for personal, political, or prejudicial reasons. if you passed your background check for your gun you'l definitely get your LTCF so order your holster and get a head start! you don't want to get your LTCF and then have to wait for your holster to be delivered.. that would suck. lol

[~Brian~]

absolutely. it avoids potential problems where certain people in positions of power could review the application and deny it for personal, political, or prejudicial reasons. if you passed your background check for your gun you'l definitely get your LTCF so order your holster and get a head start! you don't want to get your LTCF and then have to wait for your holster to be delivered.. that would suck. lol

^Thats good to hear then!

Oh, and I just spoke to the guy who makes the holsters and he said it would only take two days to mold it for my gun.

[DC2.2GSR]

^Thats good to hear then!

Oh, and I just spoke to the guy who makes the holsters and he said it would only take two days to mold it for my gun.

wow, that's great. most companies have a 2-3 week production time at least.

[~Brian~]

wow, that's great. most companies have a 2-3 week production time at least.


Yeah, I'm pretty psyched. This gives me some more time to save up because I've been blowing a lot of cash on ammo. lol

[Xavier]

So, the4g63 and I felt like playing with some crayons. This was the result of my gun after the ordeal, I'll let him post his:

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[motorvated]

So if you have an LTCF where can you NOT carry a fire arm?

[ASIAN JUL]

So if you have an LTCF where can you NOT carry a fire arm?

On federal court facilities, court facilities, school district property, and any other place which is prohibited by state law to carry a firearm. Also, you are prohibited to carry a firearm on any private property which has a written policy prohibiting firearms on the premises.

Hope that helps.

[the4g63]

Crayola'd slide from my XDm.

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[11secdsm]

i went at noon for battistas b-day! i figured you wouldnt miss a day at the shop that early. sowwwwyyyy were going again next week and i will definitely call you sweety! lets take your truck and fill it with all the assault rifles at jons house! (he just bought a G3 and a full length bushmaster ar :lol:)

I'm in.

[DC2.2GSR]

So if you have an LTCF where can you NOT carry a fire arm?

Hope that helps.

good info. in case you want the 'textbook' answer... PAFOA's in depth explanation:

Where you CAN and CANNOT Carry weapons in the State of Pennsylvania (http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-open-carry-121/7582-read-first-where-you-can-cannot-carry-weapons-state-pennsylvania.html)

[05suby]

also forgot to mention i was at CP for a few hours today, put 3 or 400 rounds through the two glock 19's and the baretta 9mm. my roomate also purchased ANOTHER ar (yes he now has 3 or 4 of them) we really need to set up a day when we can all meet up and shoot!

i would be down for this. i just need to buy myself a gun to shoot with.

[cmr076]

i would be down for this. i just need to buy myself a gun to shoot with.

they rent them, and im let you try out my glock (i cant speak for anyone else but im pretty sure my roommate would let you try his as well)

[~Brian~]

Thought I would post a link to the gun meet I would like to start for TST..

http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97057

[05suby]

they rent them, and im let you try out my glock (i cant speak for anyone else but im pretty sure my roommate would let you try his as well)

yea i figured if i didnt have one by the meet i could just rent the gun. but thanks man, i would love to shoot the glock. im looking at getting a glock.

[cmr076]

yea i figured if i didnt have one by the meet i could just rent the gun. but thanks man, i would love to shoot the glock. im looking at getting a glock.

i know at CP you either have to own a gun already or be with someone who owns one (which shouldn't be a problem if its a meet haha) depending on when this happens i should have my night sights on too haha

::edit:: i know this will cause controversy, but imho GLOCKs are the best all around handgun one could buy, internal hammer, simple to break down and clean, no obnoxious safeties to fumble with low recoil, you can put virtually any ammo through them with no issues, they are practically indestructible... probably why so many police departments use them and the gun issued to FBI agents!

which one are you looking at getting and are you planning on carrying? (sorry if you already answered that earlier)

[05suby]

nice man. im looking to get a gun next month hopefully.

[05suby]

ok so saturday i want to go look at some guns. i need some places to check out other than target masters. im located in the aston/media area.

[cmr076]

ok so saturday i want to go look at some guns. i need some places to check out other than target masters. im located in the aston/media area.

wow, i guess im not the only insomniac... if you dont mind a little drive, check out claytons in horsham, classic piston in south hampton, and american arms and ammo in montgomeryville/colmar... i personally like american arms the best, i have never had a bad experience there as a matter of fact and they have some great deals (bring cash)

A strong recommendation i would make is to determine what you want the gun for, i.e. are you planning on carrying it? do you just want it to kill targets? home defense? etc.

have you shot before? What caliber are you looking for? How much do you want to spend?

I would also strongly recommend trying out a few guns before purchasing one... if you want to come to the range with us (me chris aaron and my buddy jon) next thursday you can try my glock 19 (9mm) and i dont doubt chris would let you try his glock 23 (40sw) and jon would let you try his beretta 9... aaron has a 1911 (45acp) that he would probably let you try out as well... There will probably be a few assault rifles in the group too haha

just trying that selection of handguns out should give you a pretty good idea of what you want... two are compacts (19 and 23) of two different calibers but with all of the traditional GLOCK features (no ridiculous safeties, internal hammer, composite bodies, etc) the beretta is a full size and is metal with the more traditional safeties, as is the 1911...

another thing to consider is cost of ammo... 9mm ammo is a LOT cheaper than 40 and 45 and if you get the right kind, can have plenty of stopping power (i use critical defense with the cute little red tip :lol: for home defense) and regular crap ammo for the range (another plus with the GLOCKs is you can basically put ANYTHING through them and they will fire, just be sure to clean it after, also a very easy process)

[05suby]

wow, i guess im not the only insomniac... if you dont mind a little drive, check out claytons in horsham, classic piston in south hampton, and american arms and ammo in montgomeryville/colmar... i personally like american arms the best, i have never had a bad experience there as a matter of fact and they have some great deals (bring cash)

A strong recommendation i would make is to determine what you want the gun for, i.e. are you planning on carrying it? do you just want it to kill targets? home defense? etc.

have you shot before? What caliber are you looking for? How much do you want to spend?

I would also strongly recommend trying out a few guns before purchasing one... if you want to come to the range with us (me chris aaron and my buddy jon) next thursday you can try my glock 19 (9mm) and i dont doubt chris would let you try his glock 23 (40sw) and jon would let you try his beretta 9... aaron has a 1911 (45acp) that he would probably let you try out as well... There will probably be a few assault rifles in the group too haha

just trying that selection of handguns out should give you a pretty good idea of what you want... two are compacts (19 and 23) of two different calibers but with all of the traditional GLOCK features (no ridiculous safeties, internal hammer, composite bodies, etc) the beretta is a full size and is metal with the more traditional safeties, as is the 1911...

another thing to consider is cost of ammo... 9mm ammo is a LOT cheaper than 40 and 45 and if you get the right kind, can have plenty of stopping power (i use critical defense with the cute little red tip :lol: for home defense) and regular crap ammo for the range (another plus with the GLOCKs is you can basically put ANYTHING through them and they will fire, just be sure to clean it after, also a very easy process)

haha yea i stay up late all the time. ill check out those shops saturday. i plan on carrying, home defense and shooting range when i can.

i have shot a couple times before, when i was younger multiple times and then once last summer. as for caliber not really sure and cost prob 700 at the most right now.

i would love to come to the range with you guys but i work on thursdays. right now i have been looking at glocks, springfields, and s&w. i definitely want stopping power though. if i were to ever get into any ****, i want the person to stop not keep coming. i plan on going into law enforcement so i need to start learning more about guns. i love them, just never had the money and the thought of getting one like i do now. its been on my mind a lot lately about finally getting one and going to the range.

[angdefeo]

South Philadelphia Archery and Gun Shop is having its annual Glock day on Saturday April 17th. This day you can fire every model Glock without a rental fee. The other plus is that the prices that day will be the best you can find anywhere.

I always suggest trying to shoot any pistol before you buy one. This way you can get a real feel od the gun. Each person has their own likes and dislikes. On a day like this you can get the pistol in your hand fire it and see if it fits your needs.

Here is a link to the shop: www.philadelphiaarcheryandgunclub.com

[cmr076]

South Philadelphia Archery and Gun Shop is having its annual Glock day on Saturday April 17th. This day you can fire every model Glock without a rental fee. The other plus is that the prices that day will be the best you can find anywhere.

I always suggest trying to shoot any pistol before you buy one. This way you can get a real feel od the gun. Each person has their own likes and dislikes. On a day like this you can get the pistol in your hand fire it and see if it fits your needs.

Here is a link to the shop: www.philadelphiaarcheryandgunclub.com

wait.. what?!? a glock day? are they taking trade ins too? what kinda deals? i want a full size soooo badddd

[blkZ06]

glock 20c and glock 21sf

don't come home with anything else or you are dead to me

[cmr076]

glock 20c and glock 21sf

don't come home with anything else or you are dead to me

10mm is on my list! theres never any god damn deals on them thought! do i REALLY need a compensator though...

[blkZ06]

go on gunbroker and look around plenty of deals come up

don't give me any lip get the 20c

[cmr076]

yea your right... its practical... ammo is easy to come by AND cheap too! that would be a hell of a "nightstand" gun though... that or the mac10.

[blkZ06]

I hear a bump in the night the first thing I reach for is a shotgun not a pistol

[angdefeo]

wait.. what?!? a glock day? are they taking trade ins too? what kinda deals? i want a full size soooo badddd

I cant quote prices on current Glocks cause I don’t know them anymore. But when I bought Glock pistols on past Glock days, they were anywhere from $25-$100 cheaper than I could find anywhere else. That day, they get special pricing from the Glock reps who are at the store showing off the pistols. Prices go back to normal after that event.

[angdefeo]

10mm is on my list! theres never any god damn deals on them thought! do i REALLY need a compensator though...

If you do buy 10mm ammo check out Double Tap Equalizer. It is a hollow point bullet with a ball in the brass. So when you shoot this round you get 2 holes in the target, 1 from the hollow point and 1 from the ball. Its pricey ammo but it fires hot and packs a hard punch.

[cmr076]

I hear a bump in the night the first thing I reach for is a shotgun not a pistol

fine.... benelli m2 it is.

If you do buy 10mm ammo check out Double Tap Equalizer. It is a hollow point bullet with a ball in the brass. So when you shoot this round you get 2 holes in the target, 1 from the hollow point and 1 from the ball. Its pricey ammo but it fires hot and packs a hard punch.

im partial to my critical defense HP's!

::edit:: whaaaa, hornady doesnt make a 10mm critical defense??? wtf

[cmr076]

go on gunbroker and look around plenty of deals come up

don't give me any lip get the 20c

veryyyyy tempting.....

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=163245623

ive never ordered a gun online though haha hows it work?

[Bane]

its just like buying something on ebay only you need to send firearms to an FFL, other parts like uppers and magazines can be shipped to your door

[cmr076]

its just like buying something on ebay only you need to send firearms to an FFL, other parts like uppers and magazines can be shipped to your door

so my gun shop charges me to receive it, i have to pay the transfer fee, i have to pay shipping, and then ive just added another 150 to the cost of the gun it seems! looks like ill just buy one locally... id rather support my local shop than the intrawebz anyways!

[05suby]

so glock day meet?

[cmr076]

^ i have a feeling it will be so crowded you will barely get to even touch one... i may be wrong though.

[DC2.2GSR]

^ i have a feeling it will be so crowded you will barely get to even touch one... i may be wrong though.

lol i can see it now... it'll be as insane as the Cabela's gun counter on a Saturday afternoon, except with the additional chaos of people wanting to get their hands on rental Glocks with no fees.

[cmr076]

lol i can see it now... it'll be as insane as the Cabela's gun counter on a Saturday afternoon, except with the additional chaos of people wanting to get their hands on rental Glocks with no fees.

and fighting for free lanes! count me out (unless i go just to take advantage of the discounts, i know what glocks fire like haha i dont need to fight with 9000 other people to try one out!) and if there is a glock that i have NOT used before, its safe to assume i know someone that has it and will let me try it out haha.

[~Brian~]

Just got back from the range after putting another 100 through the .40

Best part of the night tho had to be one of the range employees bringing in his Desert Eagle. After watching this monster fire a few times, he let me put a few rounds through it. All I can say is that that thing is INSANE!

[05suby]

so since i cant get season tickets anymore for the phils, i might pick up a gun tomorrow when im looking around.

[cmr076]

^ glock glock glock!

[blkZ06]

rock out with your glock out

[05suby]

i might be up at american arms tomorrow.

[~Brian~]

Whats with this obsession with Glocks?

If you want to spend money and get a great gun, buy an HK.

I've fired this myself and its super smooth...

P30L

http://www.hk-usa.com/civilian_products/p30l_general.asp

Or if you want the regular, shorter version...

P30

http://www.hk-usa.com/civilian_products/p30_general.asp

[cmr076]

nice! they are a bunch of great guy, with a nice dog too! haha they are also really patient, tell them its your first gun and hold as many as humanly possible to find the best fit for you!

Jordan: can i try out the fn57 asap? im thinking about pulling the trigger (hehe) on picking one up this week.. now if only i could find ss190 ammo for it id be golden.

[cmr076]

Whats with this obsession with Glocks?

If you want to spend money and get a great gun, buy an HK.

they are great guns, noone can argue that! its allpreference... and why spend 800 on an HK when you can rock akimbo glocks for the same price haha

[blkZ06]

extra points for mw2 reference

[cmr076]

extra points for mw2 reference

that i stole from you yesterday haha

[05suby]

so my allergies were kicking my ass today so i never got a chance to head up to american arms. but im going to target masters in a little to shoot. im going to check out a couple guns there also.

[~Brian~]

extra points for mw2 reference

I saw that too but chose to ignore it.

haha

[Honest_Bob]

Picked up my first gun yesterday. An olive drab Walther P22.

http://www.gallery.honest-bob.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=13840&g2_serialNumber=2

[~Brian~]

Nice Ben, congrats!

[moose00015]

Picked up my first gun yesterday. An olive drab Walther P22.

http://www.gallery.honest-bob.com/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=13840&g2_serialNumber=2

Those are real finicky with the ammo that they will run. I've had success with Walmart bulk Remington stuff but some other people don't. You might have to try a few different kinds of .22lr to figure out what will function best. I still get a lot of FTF and FTE with mine. Great for practicing malfunction drills, you don't even need snap caps since the damn thing is so unpredictable. :wink:

[blkZ06]

run CCI minumags and it will never have an issue

[max2k1]

Is anyone on here having trouble getting ammo?

[1988 Olds]

Yea basically only way to get it is spend 15-17/box at a gun shop or get real lucky and find it at walmart for $10 or so. This is 9mm. I have not seen 9mm at walmarts around here for months. I got lucky and purchased 4 boxes when I was up near State College.

[cmr076]

Is anyone on here having trouble getting ammo?

Yea basically only way to get it is spend 15-17/box at a gun shop or get real lucky and find it at walmart for $10 or so. This is 9mm. I have not seen 9mm at walmarts around here for months. I got lucky and purchased 4 boxes when I was up near State College.

the internet never runs out of ammo!

[blkZ06]

can't believe you guys still try and find it in stores

[blkZ06]

dude you ninjad that post right in there

[cmr076]

can't believe you guys still try and find it in stores

dude you ninjad that post right in there

haha i had a feeling after i posted and saw you in the thread you were in the process of typing the exact same thing

[blkZ06]

great minds think alike

[cmr076]

very true... now go into the shooting on 422 thread and drop some knowledge.

[DC2.2GSR]

the trouble with buying online is that you're almost required to buy in bulk. at a store you can buy a box or two at a time. personally i don't have $300+ to drop all at once on a 1000 round case of .40S&W from Gunbroker or elsewhere online, and i bet not many other people do either. i buy one 50 rd box of Federal 180 grain FMJ at walmart every friday (payday). it costs $14.81 each time. it still works out to $0.30/round, the same as on Gunbroker, but the difference is that i can make it part of my budget per month and i don't have to spend such a huge chunk at once. that's why i still buy in stores.

for months now i have yet to see less that 2500 rounds of 9mm on the walmart shelf at one time. each time i go in i count the 100 rd WWB boxes and i consistently see 25+ boxes, PLUS all the 50 rd boxes of other stuff... easily 3000+ rounds on the shelf evey day. the .40 and .45 are less plentiful, but there's still plenty. Dicks sporting goods always has comparable amounts too.

[cmr076]

i split cases w a friend to make it more affordable... i feel ya though

[DC2.2GSR]

very true... now go into the shooting on 422 thread and drop some knowledge.

i can't believe the stupidity in that thread. i didnt even know it existed until you mentioned it. check out my post, hopefully it makes sense to you guys lol

[cmr076]

i can't believe the stupidity in that thread. i didnt even know it existed until you mentioned it. check out my post, hopefully it makes sense to you guys lol

"I have only once been asked, "Why do you feel the need to carry a gun?" My response was to point out that the question arose from 2 false assumptions.
1) It is not a "feeling";
2) It is not a "need"
Should I choose one day to carry an umbrella, it is not because I am afraid of the rain. It is because I prefer to remain dry on a particular day when rain is expected, and I consider the burden of an umbrella to be acceptable."



seriously made my night!


i wanted to smash my face against a wall reading some of the **** being posted there... it seriously blows my mind. i have a feeling proven is going to come back with some remark about that guy being paranoid..

[DC2.2GSR]

"I have only once been asked, "Why do you feel the need to carry a gun?" My response was to point out that the question arose from 2 false assumptions.
1) It is not a "feeling";
2) It is not a "need"
Should I choose one day to carry an umbrella, it is not because I am afraid of the rain. It is because I prefer to remain dry on a particular day when rain is expected, and I consider the burden of an umbrella to be acceptable."



seriously made my night!


i wanted to smash my face against a wall reading some of the **** being posted there... it seriously blows my mind. i have a feeling proven is going to come back with some remark about that guy being paranoid..

glad to hear it.

yeah there's no doubt he'll come back with some remark, and i hope he does. i'll gladly explain to him why he is 100% dead wrong. i can respect a difference in opinion, but there's a point when it's no longer a respectable opinion and it becomes stupidity. it then deserves to be pointed out and corrected.

[Honest_Bob]

Those are real finicky with the ammo that they will run. I've had success with Walmart bulk Remington stuff but some other people don't. You might have to try a few different kinds of .22lr to figure out what will function best. I still get a lot of FTF and FTE with mine. Great for practicing malfunction drills, you don't even need snap caps since the damn thing is so unpredictable. :wink:

run CCI minumags and it will never have an issue

I've read about the ammo issues. Unfortunately I already picked up 100 rounds of Remington Golden Bullet. We will see what happens. :)

[the mike]

Got to fire my buddy's AR15 yesterday. Damn is that a fun shooter. Had a really nice EOTech sight on it.

Now I need to sell a kidney.

[cmr076]

going to put $ down on a 10mm glock or Five seveN tomorrow! woohoo is there any gun shows coming up?

[~Brian~]

^very nice!

[DC2.2GSR]

going to put $ down on a 10mm glock or Five seveN tomorrow! woohoo is there any gun shows coming up?

what shop are you going to? i was at classic pistol yesterday for the first time and they had some FNs, not sure which since i know nothing about FNs. lol i wanted to hold one but i forgot all about it.

i talked to a guy named Jim who seemed pretty cool. all of the employees i saw were very cocky and opinionated, but alright nonetheless. one guy, with a bald/shaved head kept picking up the guns in the case. he'd rack the slide, point at the floor, and dry fire each one a few times and just put it back. maybe he was just really bored? lol.

my buddy and i ended up each getting a Desantis "Tuck This", him for his G30SF and me for my M&P... the same part number for both guns. i put mine on for the car ride home, but when he got his out back at his house it looked like it was made for a Ruger LCP! i mean, that thing is mini! we just picked two off the shelf without checking the part inside. the part numbers on the package matched so one would assume...?

it's an hour and 15 min to get there so i'm about to call them to make sure they have the right one in stock before i make the trip back. hopefully i can get up there today to get the right one. it's a nice holster overall, but the mag pouch on the holster is a little gimmicky. it's a nice thought, but my 10 rd m&P mag sits about 2 inches below my waistline. not too practical. lol. maybe with a 15 round full size M&P mag?

[gtsiawd96]

I've never actually been in this thread, mostly becuase I have never fired a real gun before, honeslty it never really interested me before. Well my friend took me out shooting the other day, showed me the ropes saftey, how to load/unload, properly fire, etc. What a GREAT f**cking time!! We were shooting his handgun. A glock not sure of the exact model, but it had a little umph. I want to say .40 if that makes sense. The first couple shots really kind give you real feeling with what your dealing with and how dangerous guns really can be in the wrong hands. But I'm hooked now. I'll be heading down to the local police station get all the proper paper work. Pretty cool.

[cmr076]

what shop are you going to? i was at classic pistol yesterday for the first time and they had some FNs, not sure which since i know nothing about FNs. lol i wanted to hold one but i forgot all about it.

i talked to a guy named Jim who seemed pretty cool. all of the employees i saw were very cocky and opinionated, but alright nonetheless. one guy, with a bald/shaved head kept picking up the guns in the case. he'd rack the slide, point at the floor, and dry fire each one a few times and just put it back. maybe he was just really bored? lol.

my buddy and i ended up each getting a Desantis "Tuck This", him for his G30SF and me for my M&P... the same part number for both guns. i put mine on for the car ride home, but when he got his out back at his house it looked like it was made for a Ruger LCP! i mean, that thing is mini! we just picked two off the shelf without checking the part inside. the part numbers on the package matched so one would assume...?

it's an hour and 15 min to get there so i'm about to call them to make sure they have the right one in stock before i make the trip back. hopefully i can get up there today to get the right one. it's a nice holster overall, but the mag pouch on the holster is a little gimmicky. it's a nice thought, but my 10 rd m&P mag sits about 2 inches below my waistline. not too practical. lol. maybe with a 15 round full size M&P mag?

they can be a little cocky, and if you get them started will keep you there for hours bull****ting! a group of great guys overall though. Ill probably be going to CP to order it, assuming they dont have it in stock.

I've never actually been in this thread, mostly becuase I have never fired a real gun before, honeslty it never really interested me before. Well my friend took me out shooting the other day, showed me the ropes saftey, how to load/unload, properly fire, etc. What a GREAT f**cking time!! We were shooting his handgun. A glock not sure of the exact model, but it had a little umph. I want to say .40 if that makes sense. The first couple shots really kind give you real feeling with what your dealing with and how dangerous guns really can be in the wrong hands. But I'm hooked now. I'll be heading down to the local police station get all the proper paper work. Pretty cool.

it is a great hobby! and its awesome to hear you got a start with someone who knew how to show you the ropes!

[DC2.2GSR]

I've never actually been in this thread, mostly becuase I have never fired a real gun before, honeslty it never really interested me before. Well my friend took me out shooting the other day, showed me the ropes saftey, how to load/unload, properly fire, etc. What a GREAT f**cking time!! We were shooting his handgun. A glock not sure of the exact model, but it had a little umph. I want to say .40 if that makes sense. The first couple shots really kind give you real feeling with what your dealing with and how dangerous guns really can be in the wrong hands. But I'm hooked now. I'll be heading down to the local police station get all the proper paper work. Pretty cool.

NICE! it's great to see more people getting involved. it's a hell of a lot of fun and if you carry, it gives you a completely new outlook on life. honestly, it's a crazy experience overall. i'm also glad to hear you were taught by someone who knows what they're doing. it sounds like something your parents would preach, but seriously firearm safety at even the most basic level is the most important thing. be VERY strict with how you handle firearms right from the beginning.. follow every safety rule to the T and soon it will become second nature.

the people who post in this thread a lot probably get sick of me linking to this site all the time, but here it comes anyway... PAFOA.org (Pennsylvania Firearm Owner's Association). (http://www.pafoa.org/) i figure it's better for someone to get the correct info to you right away instead of waiting until you hear something incorrect somewhere else. join the forum and read as much as you possibly can. there's so much info over there, it's ridiculous. they'll steer you in the right direction for anything you want to know.

as a little side note... if you want to get your LTCF and carry concealed, you'll want to visit the sheriff in your county, not the local police station. here's a quick link to some info about the process: Concealed Carry in PA (http://www.pafoa.org/law/carrying-firearms/concealed-carry)


**edit - wow, i just realized you're in NJ. that's a no-go on carrying concealed. lol. not sure what paperwork you were referring to, i just assumed you meant paperwork to be allowed to carry. PAFOA still has tons of great info on it relating to all aspects of gun ownership. read up and enjoy.

[gtsiawd96]

Thanks for the info! I will definitly be reading up. I'm currently in New Jersey I have heard the rules are much stricter. But I have a clean record so I don't think it will be a problem. When I have time I'll go back through this thread and read up too. Seems like alot of you guys know your stuff about weapons.

Starting off the only part I knew was "Don't ever point the gun at anyone....ever" common sense. ha. Believe me after shooting the other day it was real eye opener. Safety is key, couldn't agree more.

O yah. Guns are alot louder in person. Stupid movies.

[ASIAN JUL]

Thanks for the info! I will definitly be reading up. I'm currently in New Jersey I have heard the rules are much stricter. But I have a clean record so I don't think it will be a problem. When I have time I'll go back through this thread and read up too. Seems like alot of you guys know your stuff about weapons.

Starting off the only part I knew was "Don't ever point the gun at anyone....ever" common sense. ha. Believe me after shooting the other day it was real eye opener. Safety is key, couldn't agree more.

O yah. Guns are alot louder in person. Stupid movies.

Dude I work with knew a guy who was a retired cop and ex military, took him 6 months to get his LTCF. I heard the unrestricted LTCF are only issued to people who are in security, retired police officers, retired federal officers.... When you go to buy a gun I'm pretty sure you have to get approved for a FPIC and a pistol permit first and only have like 90 days to purchase a firearm before it expires.

[cmr076]

yea your not gonna be able to carry! move to PA.

oh and DC2 i joined pafoa finally last night haha

[gtsiawd96]

^^Jesus^^

Well for now, I just want to be able to buy a handgun and a rifle and store them in my house. And fire them at a range or where ever your allowed down here in the pine barrens. ha.

[ASIAN JUL]

yea your not gonna be able to carry! move to PA.

oh and DC2 i joined pafoa finally last night haha

Name on there? I'll friend request you, lolll

[Munky]

Stalker

[cmr076]

^^Jesus^^

Well for now, I just want to be able to buy a handgun and a rifle and store them in my house. And fire them at a range or where ever your allowed down here in the pine barrens. ha.

yea, JN laws are the ghey

Name on there? I'll friend request you, lolll

same as on here! im still trying to get a feel for the site, i immediately hit the classifieds though and am in the process of trying to meet up with a few ppl. haha i do plan on contributing to the site other than just buying more guns

[~Brian~]

Just got my LCTF in the mail today.. :mrgreen:

[DC2.2GSR]

Just got my LCTF in the mail today.. :mrgreen:

:supz::thumbup:

good to hear!

[ASIAN JUL]

I haven't turned in my paperwork yet... need to find a time, cause of course their office is only open when I'm working, lol

[~Brian~]

I think I've finally settled on a IWB holster..

What do you guys think of this one? Its kinda pricy ($69), but it looks pretty solid and they will mold it to my gun..

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/tennessee-holster-company/147303-iwb-xd-holster.html

[DC2.2GSR]

I haven't turned in my paperwork yet... need to find a time, cause of course their office is only open when I'm working, lol

it took me 2 months to arrange a time where i could go up to reading to the berks county sheriff's office. then i found out that they do 'remote' LTCF days. turns out they were doing one at a police station 2 minutes from my house. lol

[the4g63]

I haven't turned in my paperwork yet... need to find a time, cause of course their office is only open when I'm working, lol

That's no excuse. The office opens at 8 and you go to work at 10. And it's on the way. Lazy.

[ASIAN JUL]

That's no excuse. The office opens at 8 and you go to work at 10. And it's on the way. Lazy.

Yeah cause knowing my luck I'd get there and the line would be out the door :roll:

[the4g63]

Yeah cause knowing my luck I'd get there and the line would be out the door :roll:

Stop being a ****ing Debbie Downer and show up there at 8am with your application and $46.

[ASIAN JUL]

Stop being a ****ing Debbie Downer and show up there at 8am with your application and $46.

No point in applying right now if I'm moving in a week, right?

[cmr076]

No point in applying right now if I'm moving in a week, right?

iirc, if your staying in the same county it doesnt matter... i may be wrong though.

[the4g63]

No point in applying right now if I'm moving in a week, right?

Doesn't matter. When you renew it in 5 years, you change your address then.

[Xavier]

Wait, wait, wait.... $46? Might want to check this (http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-open-carry-121/94923-overcharged-ltcf-its-time-act.html) out.

[the mike]

Dude I work with knew a guy who was a retired cop and ex military, took him 6 months to get his LTCF. I heard the unrestricted LTCF are only issued to people who are in security, retired police officers, retired federal officers.... When you go to buy a gun I'm pretty sure you have to get approved for a FPIC and a pistol permit first and only have like 90 days to purchase a firearm before it expires.

You have to get the Federal Firearms ID card before you can get a permit to purchase a handgun. Unless you are military/law enforcement or retired military/law enforcement, you cannot carry in NJ. Stupid NJ. I am seriously considering moving to PA just for all the cool stuff...:wink:

[ASIAN JUL]

You have to get the Federal Firearms ID card before you can get a permit to purchase a handgun. Unless you are military/law enforcement or retired military/law enforcement, you cannot carry in NJ. Stupid NJ. I am seriously considering moving to PA just for all the cool stuff...:wink:

Lol um, thanks for reiterating everything I already said? Assuming that you meant a Firearms Purchaser ID Card...

[blkZ06]

look at you, get a gun in your hand and you become master of all things firearms

[ASIAN JUL]

look at you, get a gun in your hand and you become master of all things firearms

Me? No, silly, just what I heard from my co-worker who lives in Jersey and owns a firearm.

[~Brian~]

Just bought my first mod for the gun :mrgreen:

https://www.gilbertsguns.com/Tritium+Night+Sights/Truglo/Truglo+TFO+Springfield+XD+Tritium+Fiber+Optic+Sigh ts+Green-Yellow

[Munky]

I think I've finally settled on a IWB holster..

What do you guys think of this one? Its kinda pricy ($69), but it looks pretty solid and they will mold it to my gun..

http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/tennessee-holster-company/147303-iwb-xd-holster.html

Not feeling it for the style of clip it uses. Might as well save a bunch of money and just pick up an Uncle Mikes.

[~Brian~]

Not feeling it for the style of clip it uses. Might as well save a bunch of money and just pick up an Uncle Mikes.

Well I think what I will do is just tuck the whole thing in and just hook the clip over the belt instead of doing that under/thing setup..

[DC2.2GSR]

Wait, wait, wait.... $46? Might want to check this (http://forum.pafoa.org/concealed-open-carry-121/94923-overcharged-ltcf-its-time-act.html) out.

GREAT link. i can't understand why so many people pay over $25.

[1988 Olds]

GREAT link. i can't understand why so many people pay over $25.

2 reasons. They don't know any better and they don't feel like taking the time and effort to write a letter to get thier $20 back.

[Munky]

Well I think what I will do is just tuck the whole thing in and just hook the clip over the belt instead of doing that under/thing setup..

:bigeek: No matter how you put it down your pants (insert dirty joke here) that clip isn't really going to hold it securely as you move around. I'd look into a CompTac Minotaur. It's only going to run you about another $15-20 depending on shipping over what you listed. If you still want something in that style save yourself the money and go pick up an Uncle Mikes for $15 at most gun shops/online.

I have an Uncle Mikes for my Glock and it can't hold a torch to my CompTac that I use for my Kimber UCII.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/MunkysSRT4/Guns/DSCN1744.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/MunkysSRT4/Guns/MTACHolster.jpg

[ASIAN JUL]

You have a pedobear background and a barcode tattoo?

[~Brian~]

:bigeek: No matter how you put it down your pants (insert dirty joke here) that clip isn't really going to hold it securely as you move around. I'd look into a CompTac Minotaur. It's only going to run you about another $15-20 depending on shipping over what you listed. If you still want something in that style save yourself the money and go pick up an Uncle Mikes for $15 at most gun shops/online.

I have an Uncle Mikes for my Glock and it can't hold a torch to my CompTac that I use for my Kimber UCII.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/MunkysSRT4/Guns/MTACHolster.jpg

That CompTac looks great but I think its a little too big for me.

I forgot to mention that I haven't actually paid for the holster I ordered yet. The company who makes them is custom fitting one for my gun now and will let me try it out for a little while to see if I like it. If I like the holster, I will pay them. If not, all I have to do is send it back.

[moose00015]

:bigeek: No matter how you put it down your pants (insert dirty joke here) that clip isn't really going to hold it securely as you move around. I'd look into a CompTac Minotaur. It's only going to run you about another $15-20 depending on shipping over what you listed. If you still want something in that style save yourself the money and go pick up an Uncle Mikes for $15 at most gun shops/online.

I have an Uncle Mikes for my Glock and it can't hold a torch to my CompTac that I use for my Kimber UCII.

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/MunkysSRT4/Guns/DSCN1744.jpg

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/MunkysSRT4/Guns/MTACHolster.jpg

Comptac MTAC FTMFW. I have one of those for my P2000. Awesome holster. I also recommend Milt Spark Versa Max II but those are $110 and about a 7 month wait to get one.

[Munky]

You have a pedobear background and a barcode tattoo?

Where have you been???

[cmr076]

so i just put half down on the FN Five seveN i have been dying to get... should have it next week (fingers crossed)

[the4g63]

My Crossbreed SuperTuck came in today. I'm wearing it now, and it feels awesome. I'll try to get some pics of it later.

[Xavier]

Makes me want to get one.

[ASIAN JUL]

lol you finally got it?

[rodder]

Just bought my first mod for the gun :mrgreen:

https://www.gilbertsguns.com/Tritium+Night+Sights/Truglo/Truglo+TFO+Springfield+XD+Tritium+Fiber+Optic+Sigh ts+Green-Yellow

I want those for my XD45! Who's installing them?

[the4g63]

lol you finally got it?

No, I'm just kidding.

/sarcasm

[ASIAN JUL]

No, I'm just kidding.

/sarcasm

:roll: :cyberguy:

[~Brian~]

I want those for my XD45! Who's installing them?

I'm trying to find somebody, but the three people who have actually answered their phone want between $60 and $80. I refuse to pay that much for such a simple task.


Does anybody on here know how to mount sights or have a sight pusher that I can borrow for about 10 minutes?

[rodder]

I'm trying to find somebody, but the three people who have actually answered their phone want between $60 and $80. I refuse to pay that much for such a simple task.


Does anybody on here know how to mount sights or have a sight pusher that I can borrow for about 10 minutes?


Problem is, it's not a simple task. You'll never get the XD sights to move yourself unless you have EXTENSIVE sight installation experience and some specialized tools. These things are way harder to replace than say, sigs or glock sights. A standard sight pusher won't even budge these things.

That's why when I finally get around to purchasing aftermarket sights for my XD I'm sending the slide into springer precision - they install the sights free if you purchase from them.

Ask around on pafoa.org. I'm sure someone there will be able to help you out for a reasonable price.

[~Brian~]

Just did and I found a guy who will do it for $10 if I bring my own ammo to test the sight alignment myself at his range.

[cmr076]

finally got her and i am not disappointed! I didnt get a chance to put any rounds through her but the overall quality seems great (although 90% of the gun seems to be plastic) the ammo seems really dirty and the mag seems hard to load (double stack though, so 20rd's.... cant complain i guess)

http://i42.tinypic.com/59wj8l.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/i70j7r.jpg

Five seveN vs. Glock 19
http://i39.tinypic.com/fzcdv8.jpg

round comparison (9mm vs. 5.7x28)
http://i41.tinypic.com/2mdjrrr.jpg

mag comparison (five seven vs. glock 19)
http://i40.tinypic.com/jshsag.jpg

[~Brian~]

Damn, nice man! I'd love to shoot that sometime!

Anyways, I just got done cleaning my XDM. She is all shiny now. :mrgreen:

[cmr076]

Damn, nice man! I'd love to shoot that sometime!

Anyways, I just got done cleaning my XDM. She is all shiny now. :mrgreen:

any time! i just became a member of CP as well, so guests can shoot all day with me for $8.50 with 10% off ammo!

[~Brian~]

Good deal! Lets try to make this gun meet happen then!

[ASIAN JUL]

Congrats on the pick up, cmr

[~Brian~]

Jules, PLEASE tell me that is you in your avatar... lol

[ASIAN JUL]

Nope, but I always thought it'd be funny to take a picture like that. :) Guns and boobs... two of my favorites :)

[~Brian~]

Nope, but I always thought it'd be funny to take a picture like that. :) Guns and boobs... two of my favorites :)

:mrgreen:

[the mike]

finally got her and i am not disappointed! I didnt get a chance to put any rounds through her but the overall quality seems great (although 90% of the gun seems to be plastic) the ammo seems really dirty and the mag seems hard to load (double stack though, so 20rd's.... cant complain i guess)

http://i42.tinypic.com/59wj8l.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/i70j7r.jpg

Five seveN vs. Glock 19
http://i39.tinypic.com/fzcdv8.jpg

round comparison (9mm vs. 5.7x28)
http://i41.tinypic.com/2mdjrrr.jpg

mag comparison (five seven vs. glock 19)
http://i40.tinypic.com/jshsag.jpg

Dude, I am so jealous right now...

[DC2.2GSR]

i have to shoot that. as i said before, i really need to feel a rifle round exit a pistol barrel at least once. lol. if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay after transfer?

[blkZ06]

its like shooting a 22, seriously

[cmr076]

i have to shoot that. as i said before, i really need to feel a rifle round exit a pistol barrel at least once. lol. if you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay after transfer?

1100 plus ammo. ill be at CP this coming thursday if you wanna try her out!

[ITSTOCK]

It was the perfect day for a new gun purchase. It's not really the gun I wanted to buy next, but it serves a purpose so it was a must buy item.

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp333/svh19044/p238011.jpg
http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp333/svh19044/p238012.jpg

It feels REAAAAAL nice. I will have to see how it shoots now. My overall impression is the trigger is incredible for such a small gun, the quality is top notch as expected, and it's got a real smooth action. I didn't get an incredible deal on it, but after the other deals I have got at the shop I can't complain. After looking online, I paid the going price it seems.

And next to a couple others for size reference, 1911 and my other carry gun, G26.

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp333/svh19044/p238013.jpg

And the Five-Seven truly is a badass gun! Congrats on finally getting it.

[cmr076]

its a wittle baby! why did you want something so small out of curiosity?

[ITSTOCK]

its a wittle baby! why did you want something so small out of curiosity?

Even the G26 is a bit hefty for summer carry. I just wanted something smaller for shorts weather.

[11secdsm]

Definitely want to shoot that gun Dave!

[cmr076]

Definitely want to shoot that gun Dave!

thursday?!? and were actually going this time! i may even have another toy to bring by then...

[blkZ06]

thurs when

[ITSTOCK]

Claytons in Horsham will also have a range up and running some time this summer.

8 lanes, rifles allowed. Finally a close range!

[cmr076]

thurs when

im free after 2... so i am flexible.

[cmr076]

Claytons in Horsham will also have a range up and running some time this summer.

8 lanes, rifles allowed. Finally a close range!

they have been building their range for 8 years! i like claytons, but it seems like all the cool guys that used to work there are gone! i have no issue driving 25 min to CP (especially since i just became a member haha)

[DC2.2GSR]

they have been building their range for 8 years! i like claytons, but it seems like all the cool guys that used to work there are gone! i have no issue driving 25 min to CP (especially since i just became a member haha)

the only thing that sucks about CP for me is that it's an hour and 15 min away. lol. it would be almost 7 before i could get there on a weekday. i really wish there was something better closer to me. we just have shimerville and french creek outfitters :roll: one's a sh*thole and the other is run by ass holes.

ITSTOCK - that 238 looks awesome! i found one up at cabelas a few weeks ago and i couldn't put it down! for suck a little thing it sure does feel like a typical sig... very solid and smooth.

[cmr076]

^ now that im a member at CP, SUPPOSEDLY i get preference with range time so if you want to shoot on a weekend and make the trip down i can call ahead and tell them to hold a lane (not sure if they really do that but they said they do when they sold me the membership)

[cmr076]

new range bag! woo hoo (lol? keeping the thread alive)

http://i42.tinypic.com/dpy0cz.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2i11gg3.jpg

also got more ammo cans, and this SWEET case (should fit 6-ish full size handguns comfortably)
http://i44.tinypic.com/eikuc1.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/2cxgtaf.jpg

[drifty240]

new range bag! woo hoo (lol? keeping the thread alive)

http://i42.tinypic.com/dpy0cz.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/2i11gg3.jpg


Very nice were did you pick it up at ? I need a new range bag and case for my M4. What a money pit :bigeek:

[drifty240]

Who carries an extra mag ?

[cmr076]

Who carries an extra mag ?

i dont carry, and if i did i prob wouldnt carry an extra mag.... my glock19 is the most practical "carry gun i have" and 16 rd's should be enough (i would hope) unless the zombies attack, then i have the "bug out bag" which is an entirely different story!

i got it at an army/navy store (which seems to be all emo paintballers now :mad:) it was 50-60ish.

::edit:: m4... money pit... have you priced out acogs?!?!? im in that process... now THAT is a money pit!!!! go to an army navy store they have a great selection of soft bags with external mag pouches!

[DC2.2GSR]

Who carries an extra mag ?

i dont carry, and if i did i prob wouldnt carry an extra mag.... my glock19 is the most practical "carry gun i have" and 16 rd's should be enough (i would hope) unless the zombies attack, then i have the "bug out bag" which is an entirely different story!

i got it at an army/navy store (which seems to be all emo paintballers now :mad:) it was 50-60ish.

::edit:: m4... money pit... have you priced out acogs?!?!? im in that process... now THAT is a money pit!!!! go to an army navy store they have a great selection of soft bags with external mag pouches!

i always carry an extra mag... always. front left pocket, next to the cell phone. both are on the left (support) side so that i can keep the weapon in my hand while calling 911 and then tac reloading. i practice reloads from the pocket every time i go to the range. this is THE best piece of info i picked up from the guys on PAFOA.

carrying an extra mag isn't all about the extra rounds. think about it... how do you deal with a series of FTF (failure to feed) jams if you have no extra magazine? even after one or more FTE (failure to eject) jams, you're down by at least a few rounds after you clear it enough to get back into the fight. you can 'prove' your carry ammo all you want by shooting thousands of perfectly fed rounds, but when you're in a life/death situation you can bet that murphey's law will come into play.

[blkZ06]

2 is 1, 1 is none

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/b20vtecek/381237aa.jpg

it's not about ammo capacity it's the fact that the gun is a paperweight is something happens to the one mag

mag spring breaks, mag floor plate breaks etc

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/b20vtecek/9d5d7fcd.jpg

[cmr076]

i always carry an extra mag... always. front left pocket, next to the cell phone. both are on the left (support) side so that i can keep the weapon in my hand while calling 911 and then tac reloading. i practice reloads from the pocket every time i go to the range. this is THE best piece of info i picked up from the guys on PAFOA.

carrying an extra mag isn't all about the extra rounds. think about it... how do you deal with a series of FTF (failure to feed) jams if you have no extra magazine? even after one or more FTE (failure to eject) jams, you're down by at least a few rounds after you clear it enough to get back into the fight. you can 'prove' your carry ammo all you want by shooting thousands of perfectly fed rounds, but when you're in a life/death situation you can bet that murphey's law will come into play.

like i said, i dont carry... looking into it though... if i DO decide to i will look into how to properly do so!

2 is 1, 1 is none

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/b20vtecek/381237aa.jpg

it's not about ammo capacity it's the fact that the gun is a paperweight is something happens to the one mag

mag spring breaks, mag floor plate breaks etc

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/b20vtecek/9d5d7fcd.jpg

meh. what do you know :lol:

[blkZ06]

meh. what do you know :lol:

pssh only everything

[cmr076]

pssh only everything

clearly! dont bail on thursday or the taurus sale is a no-go motha ****aaaa!

[blkZ06]

pick a god damn time I'm on a time schedule can't wait all day to show you how to shoot a gun

[cmr076]

pick a god damn time I'm on a time schedule can't wait all day to show you how to shoot a gun

listen boy.... ill be there at 3 with jon killing paper!

[blkZ06]

I'm not a member I'll need you to bring me as a guest

[jrdellecker21]

blkzo6 what holster is that i really like it

[blkZ06]

desantis pro stealth

[cmr076]

I'm not a member I'll need you to bring me as a guest

ughhhhhhhhhh i guessssss........


just put a deposit on this and am picking it up saturday! off PAFOA:

http://i44.tinypic.com/20ico78.jpg

[blkZ06]

I have one of those

[cmr076]

I have one of those

the cruiser? you probably have 3 of them. figured itll be good for the "under the couch" piece

[blkZ06]

nah just one of those

something goes bump in the night first thing I grab is a gauge

[cmr076]

nah just one of those

something goes bump in the night first thing I grab is a gauge

so this has the blkzo6 stamp of approval? i also ordered a FN semi auto shotty.... just in case

[3rdGenMr2Girl]

forgot to mention, i bought the sr9 i've wanted :)

[blkZ06]

yea semi auto is good ****

fn makes good stuff

solid pickup on the ruger

[ASIAN JUL]

rednecks

[blkZ06]

damn rednecks

[ASIAN JUL]

damn rednecks

damn all you gun totin' rednecks... y'all make this world unsafe... you with your damn law abiding behavior and all.

[1988 Olds]

Not sure what any of your guys scheudle is like but me and my one buddy go pretty much every wednesday to Pistol People in Bensalem from 7:30ish-9. We each can bring people for $8/hr so its not a bad deal either.

[cmr076]

while at the range testing the 5n7 i ended up putting a deposit on a springfield TRP 1911... my wallet is not happy with me!

[ASIAN JUL]

My wallet says it wants to be like yours :(

[cmr076]

My wallet says it wants to be like yours :(

im lucky to have a great paying job during this economic ass**** ::fingers crossed for no layoffs::

[ASIAN JUL]

I wonder if hookers have been affected by the economy, lol

[cmr076]

I wonder if hookers have been affected by the economy, lol

haha there probably doing great! (however getting arrested for prostitution prob. wouldnt help you buy more guns)

[05suby]

damn you guys keep getting new toys. i agree with jul.

[cmr076]

picked her up today and threw her under the bed, pretty sure there has never been a shot through her.... mossberg cruiser: pistol grip, head shield, flashlight mount, side saddle.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2vhzuvr.jpg

[~Brian~]

picked her up today and threw her under the bed, pretty sure there has never been a shot through her.... mossberg cruiser: pistol grip, head shield, flashlight mount, side saddle.

http://i43.tinypic.com/2vhzuvr.jpg

Nice man, how much was it?

[cmr076]

$250... i insisted on an official transfer rather than a bill of sale, so i guess it was actually 275

[~Brian~]

Oh okay, that's not too bad then.

[cmr076]

^ not a "showy" piece.... more of a practical, only if needed one... it is sitting under my bed already and probably will not be looked at again unless need be (break in/ zombie attack)

[ASIAN JUL]

I was thinkin' about going to the range today.. and then I got lazy.

[cmr076]

I was thinkin' about going to the range today.. and then I got lazy.

me too... then i started drinking... gave the lineup a thorough cleaning and may be shooting tomorrow.

[ASIAN JUL]

No Sonic, son?

[cmr076]

No Sonic, son?

no ma'am, not my scene.

[ASIAN JUL]

Good... don't need none of you crazy gun owners there anyway... might go all redneck and blow **** up or something

[cmr076]

Good... don't need none of you crazy gun owners there anyway... might go all redneck and blow **** up or something

haha i dont carry, regardless, every meet ive been to has turned to **** and i dont need that right now... i hope its a great time and everyone has fun, however i will be sitting this one out.

[~Brian~]

Just cleaned the XDM, now I feel better :mrgreen:

[cmr076]

Just cleaned the XDM, now I feel better :mrgreen:

after the desert eagle thats next... now explain why pafoa is not operational and i will be happy!

[ASIAN JUL]

PAFOA is broken like TST was... *sad face*

[OMGshawn]

So... thoughts on the remington 7XX series rifles? Was thinking about a 770 but heard some bad things, what about the 700? Will be mainly used for target/practice , and probably be in .308

[blkZ06]

its a 300$ rifle, its not going to be world ending but it will do what you need it too, and cheap guns like that you cant really complain

[ASIAN JUL]

I find it sad that there is so little activity in this thread

[motorvated]

I still want a hand gun...walking home from work at 2AM through Philly really makes me wish I had some heat on me.

[ASIAN JUL]

So get one :-)

[blkZ06]

get 2

[ASIAN JUL]

get 2

Why stop there?

[drifty240]

PAFOA is broken like TST was... *sad face*

i know this makes me very sad, nothing to look at while i should be working :cyberguy:

[Munky]

PAFOA put up on their FB page that they were back up and running.

[cmr076]

PAFOA put up on their FB page that they were back up and running.

still no workey over here...

[ASIAN JUL]

PAFOA put up on their FB page that they were back up and running.

Yeah... except they posted again and said they aren't lol

[Munky]

Yeah... except they posted again and said they aren't lol

Yeah saw that about 10 mins after making that post. :bigeek:

[DC2.2GSR]

as a little indication of how severely lacking most peoples' situational awareness is, i OCed nearly the entire day (til about 4:30) and no one ran screaming, no one took my gun from my holster and no one was shot. also, the police did not detain/hassle me and the meet 'for the children' wasn't ruined. for that matter, the only person who said a word or even gave a second look was an old guy driving a 56 bel air who shook my hand and asked what caliber my M&P was. we talked about his OCed Kimber UCII for a while and about the ridiculous antics of us OCers who ruin it for everyone else. lol. sure, some people probably think i did it just to be "that guy", but honestly i enjoyed myself more because i wasn't soaked with sweat from my IWB holster. it was hot as balls today. haha

(i figured i'd just post in here because if i bump the sonic OC thread, we'll probably have lots more whining and crying lol)

[cmr076]

^ good man!

[ASIAN JUL]

Good work dude! Shame I didn't get to meet ya!

[DC2.2GSR]

Good work dude! Shame I didn't get to meet ya!

i was definitely looking for people i recognized, but since i've never really met anyone from TST in person i was kinda wandering in the dark. i figured you'd be pretty easy to spot, i told my friends to be on the lookout for an asian chick with a gun or five strapped on various body parts. no such luck tho. haha

[ASIAN JUL]

i was definitely looking for people i recognized, but since i've never really met anyone from TST in person i was kinda wandering in the dark. i figured you'd be pretty easy to spot, i told my friends to be on the lookout for an asian chick with a gun or five strapped on various body parts. no such luck tho. haha

LOL no gun with me.. no LTCF. :)

Rodder, that dude that was real active in the Sonic OC friendly thread was there... he somehow 'knew' it was me lol. Good instincts I guess!

[drifty240]

I casual carried all day.... SIg SP 2009 in a belt slide holster covered by tshirt when not in car or cleaning my turd of a car.... Side not pick up my new SIG 229 this Friday :)

[rodder]

damn I was looking for ppl OCing. Told Jul I guess no one had the balls to do it... guess I was wrong haha. Bravo to you sir.

as for sweaty IWB holsters, LCP in a pocket holster works great in summer weather.

In case you were wondering Jul, that was a .380 in my pocket. I wasn't that excited to see you. lol ;)

[ASIAN JUL]

damn I was looking for ppl OCing. Told Jul I guess no one had the balls to do it... guess I was wrong haha. Bravo to you sir.

as for sweaty IWB holsters, LCP in a pocket holster works great in summer weather.

In case you were wondering Jul, that was a .380 in my pocket. I wasn't that excited to see you. lol ;)

Lies.. You def were. I have to admit I looked to see if you were carrying :lol:

[1988 Olds]

damn I was looking for ppl OCing. Told Jul I guess no one had the balls to do it... guess I was wrong haha. Bravo to you sir.

as for sweaty IWB holsters, LCP in a pocket holster works great in summer weather.

In case you were wondering Jul, that was a .380 in my pocket. I wasn't that excited to see you. lol ;)

How do you like your LCP I'm thinking about picking that up as my next gun. What holster do you use?

[rodder]

How do you like your LCP I'm thinking about picking that up as my next gun. What holster do you use?

I absolutely LOVE the LCP. It's so tiny and disappears so easily into a front pants pocket that I no longer have any excuse to ever leave the house without packing. I carry it in a desantis nemesis pocket holster.

As for the gun itself, it's definitely a bit snappy, but that's to be expected from a medium-powered load out of a handgun that small and light. It's still not so snappy that it's painful to practice with, not like a 2" barreled unobtanium .357 or something.

It's also more accurate than I am. I can put together about a 3" group at 5 yrds, which is pretty much the range the gun was intended to be used at. It's also never had a single malfunction of any kind. I've run a few different types of JHPs through it, along with plenty of ball and flat nose ammo and it gobbles it all right up and spits the empties out with a purpose.

My only real complaint is the integral sights that are basically useless for anything less than bullseye shooting in broad daylight. For this reason when I practice with it I mostly practice point shooting. There's just no way you'll have time to find and align the sights at the distances this gun might be used in. Fortunately it's very "pointable" and after some practice I can now get good hits even in the dark with no use of the sights at all. I plan on eventually solving this problem completely with a crimson trace laser.

All in all, I would highly recommend it. Only thing that sucks is .380 ACP is so hard to find right now.

[ITSTOCK]

How do you like your LCP I'm thinking about picking that up as my next gun. What holster do you use?

Look in to the P238. If you get them side by side, and shoot them side by side, you will lose your mind trying to figure out why you are still holding the LCP.

As far as .380 being hard to find, that never has been my experience, and I still haven't come across that problem. In fact, I never understood when people said that. All of the gun stores that I frequent have it readily available.

[rodder]

Look in to the P238. If you get them side by side, and shoot them side by side, you will lose your mind trying to figure out why you are still holding the LCP.

That is great advice as long as 1) cost isn't a consideration and 2) you're familiar and competent with a 1911 platform pistol.

I don't like my defensive handguns to have any type of manual safety. If I had grown up shooting 1911s however I would definitely prefer the P238.

There's also a pretty significant price difference between those two pistols.

Is the P238 meant to be carried in condition 1? Not sure how I'd feel about that in a pocket holster. I guess as long as the pocket holster completely covered the trigger guard but I'd still be a little uneasy about carrying a pistol with a cocked hammer and a short, light trigger pull in my pocket. The LCP has a pretty long, stiff trigger which is part of the reason I feel so comfortable carrying it +1 in a pocket holster.

[1988 Olds]

I absolutely LOVE the LCP. It's so tiny and disappears so easily into a front pants pocket that I no longer have any excuse to ever leave the house without packing. I carry it in a desantis nemesis pocket holster.

As for the gun itself, it's definitely a bit snappy, but that's to be expected from a medium-powered load out of a handgun that small and light. It's still not so snappy that it's painful to practice with, not like a 2" barreled unobtanium .357 or something.

It's also more accurate than I am. I can put together about a 3" group at 5 yrds, which is pretty much the range the gun was intended to be used at. It's also never had a single malfunction of any kind. I've run a few different types of JHPs through it, along with plenty of ball and flat nose ammo and it gobbles it all right up and spits the empties out with a purpose.

My only real complaint is the integral sights that are basically useless for anything less than bullseye shooting in broad daylight. For this reason when I practice with it I mostly practice point shooting. There's just no way you'll have time to find and align the sights at the distances this gun might be used in. Fortunately it's very "pointable" and after some practice I can now get good hits even in the dark with no use of the sights at all. I plan on eventually solving this problem completely with a crimson trace laser.

All in all, I would highly recommend it. Only thing that sucks is .380 ACP is so hard to find right now.

Exactly what I wanted to hear. As you said cost is a major consideration and that's why I like the LCP, as it seems to be the only affordable and reliable .380 out there. I did look at the taurus 738 but a lot of people are having problems as well as the new Diamondback 380. I'm waiting for my brother to buy my old gun SW9VE so I can pick one of these up. Thanks for the info.

[FLINTSTONESKID]

dont hurt me, im new to this particular thread. what exactly is wrong or bad about OC ? i carry my weapon OC mostly in the summer but mostly because i cant hide it anyhow and in the winter, like most people, im wearing a hoody or larger clothing so just as a matter of ease, its under my clothing. also, i use fobus holsters with all my handguns because i dont ever wear a belt, even tho i should some times, so that would facilitate me purposely pulling my clothing out and over top of my weapon to expose it. the only time that i purposely CC is when i am putting myself in a situation where i feel that having my weapon exposed will actually lead to a confrontation or problem. it is our given right, in pa, to carry our weapon however we feel and i exercise my own discretion when i carry.

[rodder]

dont hurt me, im new to this particular thread. what exactly is wrong or bad about OC ? i carry my weapon OC mostly in the summer but mostly because i cant hide it anyhow and in the winter, like most people, im wearing a hoody or larger clothing so just as a matter of ease, its under my clothing. also, i use fobus holsters with all my handguns because i dont ever wear a belt, even tho i should some times, so that would facilitate me purposely pulling my clothing out and over top of my weapon to expose it. the only time that i purposely CC is when i am putting myself in a situation where i feel that having my weapon exposed will actually lead to a confrontation or problem. it is our given right, in pa, to carry our weapon however we feel and i exercise my own discretion when i carry.

Nothing's wrong or bad about OC. There are just a few folks here who need to grow up and deal with their insecurity issues.

Carry any way you want. As long as you're following the law don't worry about what the misinformed and ignorant have to say about it.

[FLINTSTONESKID]

i whole heartily agree with you and i havent read back very far, i just wanted to understand better, the opposition to the OC

[rodder]

the gist of it is, basically some people think wearing a gun openly will instantly cause a massive riot, sending panicked women and children trampling each other to get away from the obviously deranged individual with a holstered firearm... and of course that's only if you're lucky enough to stop the random people who are always trying to snatch guns out of the holsters of private citizens from taking yours and shooting everyone within a 5 mile radius with it.

However for some unknown reason police officers with holstered weapons do not cause this same phenomenon.

It's the ol' ostrich/head-in-the-sand/fingers-in-the-ears method of living in your own little world. Apparently some people will simply pee their pants in horror upon the mere sight of a firearm (unless it's carried by a cop :roll:). For these people, simply hiding the firearm will instantly ease their fear, much like an ostrich sticking it's head in the sand in a pathetic attempt to hide from a predator. Out of sight, out of mind, I guess.

If I was that terrified of guns I think the best course of action would be to move out of PA and into NY or NJ. Here in PA we value our personal freedoms and our right to self-preservation. If guns scare you so much move some place where they are heavily restricted. Of course the states with the tightest gun laws also have the highest rates of violent crime, but that's of no concern to someone who is already obviously not very familiar with the concept of logic and critical thinking.

the funniest thing is, there was at least one person open carrying at the sonic meet and no one even noticed. :lol:

[ITSTOCK]

Yes, condition 1, and why would you not feel comfortable carrying this way, especially when you admit that you don't like your guns having any type of manual safety? That makes absolutely zero sense to me. You are fine with carrying one in the chamber and no safety with a horrible trigger, but worried about carrying cocked and locked with a nice trigger? To each his own.

Cost should never be a consideration when it comes to a quality firearm. You are talking a lousy couple hundred dollars, don't have the money now?...wait another week or two or three when you do. It bothers me that I was even considering the purchase of one of the others (the P3AT and LCP were actually at the top of the list ahead of the P238..., until I realized how junky they were in comparison). Another huge plus with the P238 is that along with the nice sights, nice trigger, and smooth action, it's also ridiculous quick on follow up shots (unlike the other two). It's got a whole lot going for it.

The safety doesn't bother me at all, I've gotten quite used to the safety on my 1911's. Of course my G26 is one less step, but I'll manage just fine.

Also, very few quality "defensive handguns" don't have any manual safeties. But if that's your thing, point conceded. I just strongly disagree that you have to be "familiar and competent" to get a quality carry gun in which you should learn to use to the best of your ability in the first place.

And lastly, don't get me wrong, the LCP/P3AT are perfect deep concealment carry guns. Again, those along with the P238 were my three choices, all good choices and whatever works best is what one should get. However, make sure you do look at the other options in the first place.

That is great advice as long as 1) cost isn't a consideration and 2) you're familiar and competent with a 1911 platform pistol.

I don't like my defensive handguns to have any type of manual safety. If I had grown up shooting 1911s however I would definitely prefer the P238.

There's also a pretty significant price difference between those two pistols.

Is the P238 meant to be carried in condition 1? Not sure how I'd feel about that in a pocket holster. I guess as long as the pocket holster completely covered the trigger guard but I'd still be a little uneasy about carrying a pistol with a cocked hammer and a short, light trigger pull in my pocket. The LCP has a pretty long, stiff trigger which is part of the reason I feel so comfortable carrying it +1 in a pocket holster.

[DC2.2GSR]

the gist of it is, basically some people think wearing a gun openly will instantly cause a massive riot, sending panicked women and children trampling each other to get away from the obviously deranged individual with a holstered firearm... and of course that's only if you're lucky enough to stop the random people who are always trying to snatch guns out of the holsters of private citizens from taking yours and shooting everyone within a 5 mile radius with it.

However for some unknown reason police officers with holstered weapons do not cause this same phenomenon.

It's the ol' ostrich/head-in-the-sand/fingers-in-the-ears method of living in your own little world. Apparently some people will simply pee their pants in horror upon the mere sight of a firearm (unless it's carried by a cop :roll:). For these people, simply hiding the firearm will instantly ease their fear, much like an ostrich sticking it's head in the sand in a pathetic attempt to hide from a predator. Out of sight, out of mind, I guess.

If I was that terrified of guns I think the best course of action would be to move out of PA and into NY or NJ. Here in PA we value our personal freedoms and our right to self-preservation. If guns scare you so much move some place where they are heavily restricted. Of course the states with the tightest gun laws also have the highest rates of violent crime, but that's of no concern to someone who is already obviously not very familiar with the concept of logic and critical thinking.

the funniest thing is, there was at least one person open carrying at the sonic meet and no one even noticed. :lol:

well said. if you don't like it, leave. lol. all the ignorant sheep flock to those states (NY, NJ, etc) because they think it's 'safe'. they genuinely think that by outlawing or severely restricting gun ownership, criminals are just going to turn in their weapons and go home. :roll: in reality, it just limits peoples' rights so severely that criminals are allowed to go about their business unchecked.

i was one of the ones from this forum and there was another guy, older... maybe 50-ish... who was OCing as well. there were probably more, who knows. i sure didn't see every single person who attended. lol.

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[1988 Olds]

Itstock - I appreciate your insite. Next time I'm at the gun shop I will pick up a P238 and see how it feels. I remember holding it one time and realizing it was a tad heavy and a tad bigger then the LCP but maybe I'm just dreaming. I understand your point about money should not be considered but for me its one thing that does come into play when deciding on the gun. I'd rather spend $300 and have the other $200 towards a holster or two and some practice ammo then spend it all on the gun. I also am more comfortable with a hard trigger and no safeties as I currently carry a Glock 26 90% of the time.

[~Brian~]

Went to the range tonight and put 150 rounds through my XDM. Felt damn good, especially since I just spent the last week and a half doing nothing but writing papers. Now I get to spend another week finishing more papers then taking exams. I'll be at the range for a good two days solid to get all of this out of my system. lol

[DC2.2GSR]

Went to the range tonight and put 150 rounds through my XDM. Felt damn good, especially since I just spent the last week and a half doing nothing but writing papers. Now I get to spend another week finishing more papers then taking exams. I'll be at the range for a good two days solid to get all of this out of my system. lol

i'm long overdue. it's been like 3 weeks. i think i'll go tomorrow actually. i have some paper laying around that's been looking at me funny... i think i'm going to enjoy watching it die. hahaha

[cmr076]

i actually went last night with a buddy to pick up his new AR... we ended up bringing the mac10 and a handful of other handguns and ended up murdering some targets! good time.... i will say iron sights are hard to get used to when your spoiled by an eotech every day.

[ASIAN JUL]

I need to go to the range... sigh.

[cmr076]

what are you waiting for!

[~Brian~]

i'm long overdue. it's been like 3 weeks. i think i'll go tomorrow actually. i have some paper laying around that's been looking at me funny... i think i'm going to enjoy watching it die. hahaha

Next time I go to the range my semester will be over. I will be bringing a copy of every paper that I had to write for finals and I'll be blasting the crap out of them. lol

[ASIAN JUL]

what are you waiting for!

Lack of $ and time :cry:

[blkZ06]

perfect day to take out the machine guns

[rodder]

**** ranges!

My buddy lives on a farm surrounded by over 1000 acres of farm land up in Bangor. I go shooting over there almost every weekend.

I'd invite everyone over but I'm not sure he'd appreciate me bringing a bunch of strangers with guns over. We should meet up somewhere for a shoot so we can all get properly acquainted, then have another shoot at his house where we can really have some fun. Exploding targets, life-size zombies, moving targets, incendiary tracers, mag dumps, skeet shooting, etc etc...

[ASIAN JUL]

perfect day to take out the machine guns

All clear?

**** ranges!

My buddy lives on a farm surrounded by over 1000 acres of farm land up in Bangor. I go shooting over there almost every weekend.

I'd invite everyone over but I'm not sure he'd appreciate me bringing a bunch of strangers with guns over. We should meet up somewhere for a shoot so we can all get properly acquainted, then have another shoot at his house where we can really have some fun. Exploding targets, life-size zombies, moving targets, incendiary tracers, mag dumps, skeet shooting, etc etc...

Well scuuuuse me lol, I don't have the privilege of knowing someone with 1,000 acres of farm land :lol:

[rodder]

well doesn't that just suck for you... lol ;)

Actually he only owns about 2 acres, but a farmer down the road owns all the surrounding farmland and doesn't care when or how much we shoot as long as he's not out plowing the fields. :)

So when's the 1st annual TST group shoot?

[rodder]

perfect day to take out the machine guns

Do you by any chance need a live-in maid/butler? I make a mean grilled cheese. :)

[ASIAN JUL]

well doesn't that just suck for you... lol ;)

Actually he only owns about 2 acres, but a farmer down the road owns all the surrounding farmland and doesn't care when or how much we shoot as long as he's not out plowing the fields. :)

So when's the 1st annual TST group shoot?

Yeah, yeah. Rub it in.

And that's a pretty cool arrangement, ha.

[Xavier]

**** ranges!

My buddy lives on a farm surrounded by over 1000 acres of farm land up in Bangor. I go shooting over there almost every weekend.

I'd invite everyone over but I'm not sure he'd appreciate me bringing a bunch of strangers with guns over. We should meet up somewhere for a shoot so we can all get properly acquainted, then have another shoot at his house where we can really have some fun. Exploding targets, life-size zombies, moving targets, incendiary tracers, mag dumps, skeet shooting, etc etc...

I'm down. I have a box of bird shot and some clays I want to destroy.

[~Brian~]

For your viewing pleasure, a small photoshoot of my freshly cleaned XDM with the new TFO sights on her..

Sorry for the crappy iPhone pics, I just didn't feel like breaking out my digital camera.


http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/snowboy1232001/photo.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/snowboy1232001/photo5.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/snowboy1232001/photo2-1.jpg

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/snowboy1232001/photo3-1.jpg

The holster is an IWB and was made by the Tennessee Holster Company

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r38/snowboy1232001/photo4-1.jpg

[05suby]

i like those sights a lot

[cmr076]

**** ranges!

My buddy lives on a farm surrounded by over 1000 acres of farm land up in Bangor. I go shooting over there almost every weekend.

I'd invite everyone over but I'm not sure he'd appreciate me bringing a bunch of strangers with guns over. We should meet up somewhere for a shoot so we can all get properly acquainted, then have another shoot at his house where we can really have some fun. Exploding targets, life-size zombies, moving targets, incendiary tracers, mag dumps, skeet shooting, etc etc...

yes please!

I'm down. I have a box of bird shot and some clays I want to destroy.

i have some 00 buck that would love to meet one of those zombie targets!

[rodder]

For your viewing pleasure, a small photoshoot of my freshly cleaned XDM with the new TFO sights on her.

Very nice! So who'd you find to install them?