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SoStock92 · 09-12-2009, 05:51 PM

I am big into turbos, big into BMWs... and I almost like this car....

I have a few hang ups with the practicality of his build like the wastegate completely ruining your hopes of changing the s-belt in the parking lot, or the downpipe keeping you from being able to change spark plugs.... but once you get around that.... there's the exhaust...

Yuck! Ruined! I have a friend with a turbo M Coupe which was built with none of these issues on a larger turbo and has a nice nice rear end with exahust in factory spots but bigger... the crooked muffler looks hot on a supra or wrx... it ruins a BMW. Sigh

Thoughts?

sleeperSL2 · 09-12-2009, 05:56 PM

i agree with you. any pictures of the rest of the car?

DPancoast · 09-12-2009, 05:56 PM

lol... with work wheels and tires like that... I think it's badass...

then I throw up

OMGz Turbo · 09-12-2009, 06:00 PM

That entire car doesnt make much sense for practicality but that exhaust is plain stupid.

SoStock92 · 09-12-2009, 06:03 PM

The car looks good except for the rear hatch spoiler thinger that a lot of m coupe guys run. Its a funky 3 piece deal that wraps around the back... but I can deal with that. The wheels are hot. The exhaust ruins it

sillyeye · 09-12-2009, 06:04 PM

Yucky

Zillon · 09-12-2009, 06:12 PM

Not only does the exhaust not fit the car, it's got way too much angle going on with that dangle.

SoStock92 · 09-12-2009, 06:37 PM

It gets worse

look at the bend needed to make that stupid angle

sherwood · 09-12-2009, 06:53 PM

german cars look so much better with just straight pipes.

BustedUjoint · 09-12-2009, 08:51 PM

Who the **** thought that was even a good idea?!?

11secdsm · 09-12-2009, 08:57 PM

He's an idiot. Large diameter, dual straight tip is all it needs.

tomustang · 09-12-2009, 09:21 PM

IMO they all look stupid crooked. To each their own.

Z31NA2T · 09-12-2009, 09:51 PM

Thats just stupid...generally cars like Z's, 240SXs, supras, etc..the reason the exhaust is crooked is because it goes over the rear crossmember, then under the axle and the angle is created by those bends. I know on a Z31 the stock exhaust runs that way, then the tips have bends to exit out straight.

You can kind of tell here when my Z31 was straight piped as a NA, I didn't put a bend back in it to bring it out straight, so it was at a SLIGHT angle, but not like that ricer angle

KDMguy · 09-12-2009, 10:34 PM

I think he did Euro+JDM style on that car. Exhaust or the muffler intself looks like it's HKS Carbon TI.
I agree the exhaust is angled kind too much.
But I am sure the exhaust is angled for back pressure to have a faster spool-up for larger size turbochargers @ low RPM, and I kinda like that
JDM wheels on EURO = SEX

11secdsm · 09-12-2009, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDMguy

But I am sure the exhaust is angled for back pressure to have a faster spool-up for larger size turbochargers @ low RPM

No offense or anything, but that makes ZERO sense.

240sxDann · 09-12-2009, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDMguy

I think he did Euro+JDM style on that car. Exhaust or the muffler intself looks like it's HKS Carbon TI.
I agree the exhaust is angled kind too much.
But I am sure the exhaust is angled for back pressure to have a faster spool-up for larger size turbochargers @ low RPM, and I kinda like that
JDM wheels on EURO = SEX

Yea but he could have just as easily ran a decent twin tip muffler or even straight pipes. In fact it woulda been easier to do that because of the stupid s bend they had to put in to get that angle. Plus, German and JDM do NOT mix, period. Unless it's in the sense of maybe like an E30 with a 2jz or something of that nature.

redtoprps13 · 09-12-2009, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDMguy

But I am sure the exhaust is angled for back pressure to have a faster spool-up for larger size turbochargers @ low RPM, and I kinda like that
JDM wheels on EURO = SEX

flow dynamics isn't something you're familiar with is it?

KDMguy · 09-12-2009, 11:07 PM

Well correct me if I am wrong.. I can't be right 100% but that's what I've heard and experienced from my past turbocharged cars with larger turbos in small displacement motors.
I also do work with many exhaust manufactures and that's I was told.

Say you put GT35 or larger turbo on 2 liter engine. You are likely to have the full boost around 4000+ rpm, and you gotta have 3" or larger exhaust pipings for the better exhaust for the turbocharged cars.
Larger exhaust piping=less response in lower RPM before the turbo actually starts to spool.
Yes you can go with straight piping but you at least give it a bend or angled out exhaust for some restrictions to the exhaust flow.
It's like you put a silencers on the exhaust and car all of sudden responses faster but of course it will loose power..
I have a toothacke for whole day and I am in pain so I can't really get it out but I hope someone picks up what I am trying to say.

SoStock92 · 09-12-2009, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDMguy

Well correct me if I am wrong.. I can't be right 100% but that's what I've heard and experienced from my past turbocharged cars with larger turbos in small displacement motors.
I also do work with many exhaust manufactures and that's I was told.

Say you put GT35 or larger turbo on 2 liter engine. You are likely to have the full boost around 4000+ rpm, and you gotta have 3" or larger exhaust pipings for the better exhaust for the turbocharged cars.
Larger exhaust piping=less response in lower RPM before the turbo actually starts to spool.
Yes you can go with straight piping but you at least give it a bend or angled out exhaust for some restrictions to the exhaust flow.
It's like you put a silencers on the exhaust and car all of sudden responses faster but of course it will loose power..
I have a toothacke for whole day and I am in pain so I can't really get it out but I hope someone picks up what I am trying to say.

In a word... no

240sxDann · 09-12-2009, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KDMguy

Well correct me if I am wrong.. I can't be right 100% but that's what I've heard and experienced from my past turbocharged cars with larger turbos in small displacement motors.
I also do work with many exhaust manufactures and that's I was told.

Say you put GT35 or larger turbo on 2 liter engine. You are likely to have the full boost around 4000+ rpm, and you gotta have 3" or larger exhaust pipings for the better exhaust for the turbocharged cars.
Larger exhaust piping=less response in lower RPM before the turbo actually starts to spool.
Yes you can go with straight piping but you at least give it a bend or angled out exhaust for some restrictions to the exhaust flow.
It's like you put a silencers on the exhaust and car all of sudden responses faster but of course it will loose power..
I have a toothacke for whole day and I am in pain so I can't really get it out but I hope someone picks up what I am trying to say.

So your saying adding restriction/back pressure by adding the muffler and the extra turns, helps responsiveness? Because...it totally doesn't. The free-er flowing your exhaust is, the faster your motor can push exhaust through it, therefore, spooling the turbo faster.

09-12-2009, 05:51 PM	#1
SoStock92 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2006 Member #1721 My Ride: 92 BMW 525, 95 BMW 525, 87 BMW 325, 95 BMW 530 iTrader: (0)	This exhaust KILLS this car... I am big into turbos, big into BMWs... and I almost like this car.... I have a few hang ups with the practicality of his build like the wastegate completely ruining your hopes of changing the s-belt in the parking lot, or the downpipe keeping you from being able to change spark plugs.... but once you get around that.... there's the exhaust... Yuck! Ruined! I have a friend with a turbo M Coupe which was built with none of these issues on a larger turbo and has a nice nice rear end with exahust in factory spots but bigger... the crooked muffler looks hot on a supra or wrx... it ruins a BMW. Sigh Thoughts?

09-12-2009, 06:00 PM	#4
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11secdsm Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Warrington, PA Member #4914 My Ride: '15 F150, '11 535xi, '95 M3, '04 Wrangler iTrader: (2)	He's an idiot. Large diameter, dual straight tip is all it needs. __________________ -Chris 1995 M3 LS6 swapped 1991 Eclipse auto- 725whp - 5.93@122 1/8 \|\| 9.14 @ 151 2006 Evo IX- 609whp-> (2.3L) \|\| 11.19 @ 128 ->(stock 2.0) SOLD 1997 Supra- 670whp- 10.91 @ 139 SOLD

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Z31NA2T Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Savannah, NY Member #11856 My Ride: '74 260Z, '84 300ZX NA2T iTrader: (0)	Thats just stupid...generally cars like Z's, 240SXs, supras, etc..the reason the exhaust is crooked is because it goes over the rear crossmember, then under the axle and the angle is created by those bends. I know on a Z31 the stock exhaust runs that way, then the tips have bends to exit out straight. You can kind of tell here when my Z31 was straight piped as a NA, I didn't put a bend back in it to bring it out straight, so it was at a SLIGHT angle, but not like that ricer angle __________________ 1984 300ZX, VG33E - SOLD 1986 300ZX TURBO 1974 260Z 1978 280Z Last edited by Z31NA2T; 09-12-2009 at 09:54 PM.

09-12-2009, 06:03 PM	#5
SoStock92 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2006 Member #1721 My Ride: 92 BMW 525, 95 BMW 525, 87 BMW 325, 95 BMW 530 iTrader: (0)	The car looks good except for the rear hatch spoiler thinger that a lot of m coupe guys run. Its a funky 3 piece deal that wraps around the back... but I can deal with that. The wheels are hot. The exhaust ruins it

09-12-2009, 06:04 PM	#6
sillyeye Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2008 Member #8808 My Ride: 99 GSX iTrader: (17)	Yucky

09-12-2009, 06:37 PM	#8
SoStock92 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2006 Member #1721 My Ride: 92 BMW 525, 95 BMW 525, 87 BMW 325, 95 BMW 530 iTrader: (0)	It gets worse look at the bend needed to make that stupid angle

09-12-2009, 09:21 PM	#12
tomustang Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Northampton County, Pa Member #1302 iTrader: (0)	IMO they all look stupid crooked. To each their own.

09-12-2009, 10:34 PM	#14
KDMguy Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Sep 2009 Member #14634 iTrader: (0)	I think he did Euro+JDM style on that car. Exhaust or the muffler intself looks like it's HKS Carbon TI. I agree the exhaust is angled kind too much. But I am sure the exhaust is angled for back pressure to have a faster spool-up for larger size turbochargers @ low RPM, and I kinda like that JDM wheels on EURO = SEX

09-12-2009, 11:07 PM	#18
KDMguy Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Sep 2009 Member #14634 iTrader: (0)	Well correct me if I am wrong.. I can't be right 100% but that's what I've heard and experienced from my past turbocharged cars with larger turbos in small displacement motors. I also do work with many exhaust manufactures and that's I was told. Say you put GT35 or larger turbo on 2 liter engine. You are likely to have the full boost around 4000+ rpm, and you gotta have 3" or larger exhaust pipings for the better exhaust for the turbocharged cars. Larger exhaust piping=less response in lower RPM before the turbo actually starts to spool. Yes you can go with straight piping but you at least give it a bend or angled out exhaust for some restrictions to the exhaust flow. It's like you put a silencers on the exhaust and car all of sudden responses faster but of course it will loose power.. I have a toothacke for whole day and I am in pain so I can't really get it out but I hope someone picks up what I am trying to say.

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