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Rooster33 · 01-29-2010, 12:13 PM

Any one ever buy china chargers and still have them running. Im thinking I might buy one since there so cheep, but Iv know a few people that blew the turbo running 15psi Im aiming to run 8psi.

Cardriverx · 01-30-2010, 01:03 AM

http://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t37835/

Vr-4-Life · 01-30-2010, 01:17 PM

True story...

I was redoing the turbo setup on my car to get rid of a wacky volvo style turbo kit... I went out and got pretty much the same turbo just without a wastegate... .57AR if I remember correctly.

I decided not to cheap out on my car and I let the ebay turbo sit in the box and I got a brand new Turbonetics T3 .48AR turbo that was polished and beautiful. After a month of running it, my car started to smoke like I blew a piston ring... I swore up and down that it wasnt the turbo until one day I had the filter off and i had wall to wall shaft play. I tried to get turbonetics to exchange it, but they wouldnt. I was without the turbo for 4 weeks and I was given no compensation and I had to pay for shipping there. I got it back and had it on the car for 4 months then it blew again. This time turbonetics blamed it on my tune even tho it was the same problem.

In the mean time while the turbo was out for repair.. I ran the ebay turbo... after I recieved the turbonetics turbo back i sold it... to this day.. I am still running the ebay turbo with 0 problems and 0 shaft play.... its PERFECT...

atenzany62 · 01-31-2010, 05:24 AM

hmm some ebay turbos are good i guess. on nasioc people always post complaints about them. especially the 16g's for subarus.

Foolinaround · 01-31-2010, 09:04 AM

cxracing has awesome turbos. i abused the hell outta mine for 40k and had 0 problems on a basemap and legit tune

outlawzxblizz99 · 01-31-2010, 01:51 PM

i think it also has to do how much you're boosting the cars and what car it is. i know on DSMs, our engines are really harsh on turbos so the "chinachargers" do not work for long. Then, on Hondas they are good because they are not being pushed too hard.

xturbot3x · 01-31-2010, 06:41 PM

Im running one that I upgraded the internals myself. I added the 360 thrust bearing and gapless oil seal. 8,000 miles and lots of boost.... So far still perfect!

outlawzxblizz99 · 01-31-2010, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xturbot3x

Im running one that I upgraded the internals myself. I added the 360 thrust bearing and gapless oil seal. 8,000 miles and lots of boost.... So far still perfect!

yeah, i heard people that upgrade the internals do good with them

Rooster33 · 01-31-2010, 11:28 PM

I know of someone who used the 16g on a civic, running 15psi and 300 horse but blew the turbo after a week of driving. I found t/3 imitation turbo that looks decent I might give it a try.

Renegade_ · 01-31-2010, 11:42 PM

Friend of mine ran one for 2 years @ 10 psi on a KA-T setup and drifted the piss out of it. It was still making like 300whp till the day the motor went (oil starvation). Rebuilding now and its gonna be run again

CleanNeon98 · 02-01-2010, 10:46 AM

I think they are a hit or miss, everyone will have their own experience. I'd try one.

Vr-4-Life · 02-01-2010, 12:26 PM

buy one.. its a 120 dollar investment lol

xturbot3x · 02-01-2010, 04:59 PM

My buddy has a chinese 16g on a dsm. He has no line going to the wastegate actuator and is simply running all the boost the turbo can possibly put out. He has 880cc injectors and boost spikes to 36ish and holds around 28 till redline. Turbo is still fine and its been about a year.

crazysaywhat · 02-01-2010, 05:33 PM

last yr my ebay turbo made 325whp on a very rich tune at 10psi...

Vr-4-Life · 02-01-2010, 07:46 PM

I dont think its a question of them making power.... Its a question of reliability... Also its a question of them sending shards of metal down your intake pipe when the compressor shatters..

That being said.. mine is still ok... lol

CleanNeon98 · 02-01-2010, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vr-4-Life

buy one.. its a 120 dollar investment lol

A few things

Manifold
Downpipe
IC piping
ECU
Fuel
Tuning

More like a 4000-6000 investment in my case.

Vr-4-Life · 02-01-2010, 11:14 PM

you're nuts lol theres no way the supporting mods for an ebay turbo would cost that much.

CleanNeon98 · 02-01-2010, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vr-4-Life

you're nuts lol theres no way the supporting mods for an ebay turbo would cost that much.

It's not about being an eBay turbo, it's about having the supporting mods for any kind of turbo upgrade but I won't get into that argument here, IM me.

Vr-4-Life · 02-02-2010, 08:59 AM

4-6 grand for supporting mods? I'll just assume you're buying the best of the best.... heh

CleanNeon98 · 02-02-2010, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vr-4-Life

4-6 grand for supporting mods? I'll just assume you're buying the best of the best.... heh

Not a lot out there for my car power wise, what exists ain't cheap. Injectors are 500ish, ECU is 2000, manifold and downpipe are 700, tune is god knows what, IC piping is another 200ish, then for the turbo, and I'd really feel better running a Garret at that point.

01-29-2010, 12:13 PM	#1
Rooster33 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Jan 2010 Member #15579 My Ride: 92 miata, thundercat iTrader: (0)	China chargers??? Any one ever buy china chargers and still have them running. Im thinking I might buy one since there so cheep, but Iv know a few people that blew the turbo running 15psi Im aiming to run 8psi.

01-30-2010, 01:03 AM	#2
Cardriverx Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: media Member #5090 My Ride: 1993 Miata Turbo ; 2001 Saab 9-5 Aero Wagon iTrader: (1)	http://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t37835/ __________________ 93 Turbo Miata, T3/T4 14 psi, megasquirt II ECU, once I get the tune dialed in, about 230 HP. =) 01 Saab 9-5 Aero wagon, my DD. Great Fun. Stock.. for now. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

01-31-2010, 05:24 AM	#4
atenzany62 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: May 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Member #7684 My Ride: 02 WRX iTrader: (0)	hmm some ebay turbos are good i guess. on nasioc people always post complaints about them. especially the 16g's for subarus. __________________ 06 Mazda6s, 02 WRX, 95 Impreza WRXL, 05 SRT-4, 94 Stealth RT turbo, 95 3000GT VR4, 02 Q45 sport, 04 S2000, 04 Z4 3.0i, 03 350Z Touring, 98 Accord coupe, 02 Mini Cooper S, 16 Audi S3, 03 Elantra, 00 Eclipse GT, 18 Elantra Sport, 07 Accord LX, 19 Stinger GT1, 23 BMW M240i, 18 Corolla LE

01-31-2010, 09:04 AM	#5
Foolinaround TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: McGuire AFB Member #9448 My Ride: 2016 GTI SE w/PP/Boeing C-17 Globemaster III iTrader: (2)	cxracing has awesome turbos. i abused the hell outta mine for 40k and had 0 problems on a basemap and legit tune __________________ -John C-17 Loadmaster DenOfDebauchery

01-31-2010, 01:51 PM	#6
outlawzxblizz99 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NJ Member #1812 My Ride: 92 Talon TSi-The Mistress iTrader: (0)	i think it also has to do how much you're boosting the cars and what car it is. i know on DSMs, our engines are really harsh on turbos so the "chinachargers" do not work for long. Then, on Hondas they are good because they are not being pushed too hard. __________________ 92 Eagle Talon TSi- "The Mistress"

01-30-2010, 01:17 PM	#3
Vr-4-Life Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philly PA Member #1961 My Ride: BMW E60 M5 V10 6 Speed --- Ducati Monster 696 iTrader: (4)	True story... I was redoing the turbo setup on my car to get rid of a wacky volvo style turbo kit... I went out and got pretty much the same turbo just without a wastegate... .57AR if I remember correctly. I decided not to cheap out on my car and I let the ebay turbo sit in the box and I got a brand new Turbonetics T3 .48AR turbo that was polished and beautiful. After a month of running it, my car started to smoke like I blew a piston ring... I swore up and down that it wasnt the turbo until one day I had the filter off and i had wall to wall shaft play. I tried to get turbonetics to exchange it, but they wouldnt. I was without the turbo for 4 weeks and I was given no compensation and I had to pay for shipping there. I got it back and had it on the car for 4 months then it blew again. This time turbonetics blamed it on my tune even tho it was the same problem. In the mean time while the turbo was out for repair.. I ran the ebay turbo... after I recieved the turbonetics turbo back i sold it... to this day.. I am still running the ebay turbo with 0 problems and 0 shaft play.... its PERFECT...

01-31-2010, 06:41 PM	#7
xturbot3x Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Nov 2007 Member #6387 My Ride: 87 t-bird iTrader: (0)	Im running one that I upgraded the internals myself. I added the 360 thrust bearing and gapless oil seal. 8,000 miles and lots of boost.... So far still perfect!

01-31-2010, 11:28 PM	#9
Rooster33 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Jan 2010 Member #15579 My Ride: 92 miata, thundercat iTrader: (0)	I know of someone who used the 16g on a civic, running 15psi and 300 horse but blew the turbo after a week of driving. I found t/3 imitation turbo that looks decent I might give it a try.

01-31-2010, 11:42 PM	#10
Renegade_ Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: NNJ/NYC Member #1912 My Ride: 1J Swaggon iTrader: (2)	Friend of mine ran one for 2 years @ 10 psi on a KA-T setup and drifted the piss out of it. It was still making like 300whp till the day the motor went (oil starvation). Rebuilding now and its gonna be run again

02-01-2010, 10:46 AM	#11
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	I think they are a hit or miss, everyone will have their own experience. I'd try one. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

02-01-2010, 12:26 PM	#12
Vr-4-Life Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philly PA Member #1961 My Ride: BMW E60 M5 V10 6 Speed --- Ducati Monster 696 iTrader: (4)	buy one.. its a 120 dollar investment lol

02-01-2010, 04:59 PM	#13
xturbot3x Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Nov 2007 Member #6387 My Ride: 87 t-bird iTrader: (0)	My buddy has a chinese 16g on a dsm. He has no line going to the wastegate actuator and is simply running all the boost the turbo can possibly put out. He has 880cc injectors and boost spikes to 36ish and holds around 28 till redline. Turbo is still fine and its been about a year.

02-01-2010, 07:46 PM	#15
Vr-4-Life Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philly PA Member #1961 My Ride: BMW E60 M5 V10 6 Speed --- Ducati Monster 696 iTrader: (4)	I dont think its a question of them making power.... Its a question of reliability... Also its a question of them sending shards of metal down your intake pipe when the compressor shatters.. That being said.. mine is still ok... lol

02-01-2010, 11:14 PM	#17
Vr-4-Life Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philly PA Member #1961 My Ride: BMW E60 M5 V10 6 Speed --- Ducati Monster 696 iTrader: (4)	you're nuts lol theres no way the supporting mods for an ebay turbo would cost that much.

02-02-2010, 08:59 AM	#19
Vr-4-Life Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: Philly PA Member #1961 My Ride: BMW E60 M5 V10 6 Speed --- Ducati Monster 696 iTrader: (4)	4-6 grand for supporting mods? I'll just assume you're buying the best of the best.... heh

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