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2001teg · 01-10-2010, 12:47 AM

I finally got my car tuned and have to say I am disappointed with the results. I feel like alot of other similar builds resulted better than I did.

194.8 WHP 131.86 tq redline is at 8400 vtec is at 6500

Basic run down:

82mm GSR block
12:5 comp.
Ported and Polished GSR head
Valves/Springs/Retainers
Blox stage 2 cams
Fully bolted minus a throttle body.
2.5 Exhaust w/ Hytech replica headers.
Hondata s100

Comments/Thoughts?

Foolinaround · 01-10-2010, 12:52 AM

Thats really good i think for NA. especially with no building on the bottom end

TalonTsi97 · 01-10-2010, 12:52 AM

What kind of dyno was it?

2001teg · 01-10-2010, 12:58 AM

I only used the stock rods because the cams didnt get good reviews on power past 8500, so I didnt plan on revving it to the moon. Taking it to 9k would barely put me a the 200 whp mark based on what the sheet looks like. Although it wouldn't surprise me if others bull**** their dyno results.

The dyno was a dyno jet.

TalonTsi97 · 01-10-2010, 01:05 AM

Every dyno, tuner, day, is different so you have to take that into factor. How much more did you think it was going to make?

Foolinaround · 01-10-2010, 01:14 AM

So you used cams that didnt get a good review for high revving,with a high revving motor?

2001teg · 01-10-2010, 01:19 AM

No what I should have said was the power band on the cams wasn't at motorcycle revving limits.

Similar builds that I basically coppied off of made a minimum 200 whp. Im not trying to bitch about anything, I guess its more of a me wanting to make sure this is normal.

TalonTsi97 · 01-10-2010, 01:31 AM

Like i said, every motor is different, every dyno is different, every tuner is different, the correction factor could be different, air could be different. If you were supposed to make 250whp and only made 190 i'd be concerned but if you made 190 and were expecting 200whp then that could be based off the things i just mentioned.

Have any videos of the dyno runs?

Fujito · 01-10-2010, 01:44 AM

Every dyno reads differently. The only way to know whether you got real gains or not is to get a base dyno before the mods or tune.

TalonTsi97 · 01-10-2010, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fujito

Every dyno reads differently. The only way to know whether you got real gains or not is to get a base dyno before the mods or tune.

Exactly^

What correction factors were used on the sheet?

Fujito · 01-10-2010, 03:07 AM

And if it makes you feel any better people on my Evo forum have based dyno'd 50 WHP less than what others have because some dyno's read very low.

Don't get too caught up on the numbers. The most important thing is your butt dyno and how the car feels.

Foolinaround · 01-10-2010, 03:09 AM

He is right,you cant compare dyno sheets based on so many variables that can change.

PhillyLS1 · 01-10-2010, 04:12 AM

Only number that matters is what it does at the track. If you like the car be happy with it.

Renegade_ · 01-10-2010, 04:20 AM

Go to the track and see what you trap.

You do know you can make a "300whp" car read over "500whp" if you calibrate the dyno wrong haha

As long as you enjoy driving you car, who cares if you cant beat a C6 in a straight line haha

Drive your car and enjoy it.

2001teg · 01-10-2010, 08:03 PM

All of what was said is comepletely true. The car still rips and is a thrill to drive. Vince at R/T did a great job, and was pretty damn informative. Feburary when the track open I will see what she runs and go from there. Maybe Ill change out cams and build a B20 bottom end after I get bored of it.

The Captain · 01-10-2010, 08:15 PM

almost 200whp from a b18 w/ bolt ons and some head work? I'd be pretty damn happy with that.

Foolinaround · 01-10-2010, 09:51 PM

Exactly,there was no bottom end workk and you limited the revs. so how much were you expecting

2001teg · 01-10-2010, 11:38 PM

I have different pistons 12:5 comp. Its not a completely stock bottom end. Its bored to 82mm too.

Foolinaround · 01-10-2010, 11:52 PM

Did you happen to read this

http://www.team-integra.net/sections...?ArticleID=233

its a good read just for more info in choosing more parts.

sleeper15 · 01-11-2010, 12:13 AM

thats really good. when i first got my hatchback over in cali, the first time i dyno'd it, all i had done to it was a intake manifold, header, exhaust, chipped p28 and mild port polish, and it hit 171whp.

after i had more head work done, crower 402, 11.5:1 pistons, apex vtec controller, and larger injectors, i hit 184whp.

so, if i had 12.5:1 like your, i'd be just barly over 200who myself.

also, i've added a msd ignition to the car, and i need a retune (i need a hondata)

01-10-2010, 12:47 AM	#1
2001teg Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Member #7004 My Ride: 2001 Integra GSR/Type-R iTrader: (0)	Opinions on dyno results (DYNO SHEET UP) I finally got my car tuned and have to say I am disappointed with the results. I feel like alot of other similar builds resulted better than I did. 194.8 WHP 131.86 tq redline is at 8400 vtec is at 6500 Basic run down: 82mm GSR block 12:5 comp. Ported and Polished GSR head Valves/Springs/Retainers Blox stage 2 cams Fully bolted minus a throttle body. 2.5 Exhaust w/ Hytech replica headers. Hondata s100 Comments/Thoughts? Last edited by 2001teg; 01-10-2010 at 11:37 PM. Reason: Added text

01-10-2010, 12:52 AM	#2
Foolinaround TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: McGuire AFB Member #9448 My Ride: 2016 GTI SE w/PP/Boeing C-17 Globemaster III iTrader: (2)	Thats really good i think for NA. especially with no building on the bottom end __________________ -John C-17 Loadmaster DenOfDebauchery

01-10-2010, 12:52 AM	#3
TalonTsi97 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jan 2005 Member #136 My Ride: 1997 Eagle Talon iTrader: (21)	What kind of dyno was it? __________________ 1997 Eagle Talon Tsi To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Updated weekly with Dyno, Track, AutoX, Street, and Event videos. Big updates coming soon! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

01-10-2010, 12:58 AM	#4
2001teg Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Member #7004 My Ride: 2001 Integra GSR/Type-R iTrader: (0)	I only used the stock rods because the cams didnt get good reviews on power past 8500, so I didnt plan on revving it to the moon. Taking it to 9k would barely put me a the 200 whp mark based on what the sheet looks like. Although it wouldn't surprise me if others bull**** their dyno results. The dyno was a dyno jet. Last edited by 2001teg; 01-10-2010 at 01:03 AM. Reason: Added text

01-10-2010, 01:05 AM	#5
TalonTsi97 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jan 2005 Member #136 My Ride: 1997 Eagle Talon iTrader: (21)	Every dyno, tuner, day, is different so you have to take that into factor. How much more did you think it was going to make? __________________ 1997 Eagle Talon Tsi To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Updated weekly with Dyno, Track, AutoX, Street, and Event videos. Big updates coming soon! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

01-10-2010, 01:14 AM	#6
Foolinaround TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: McGuire AFB Member #9448 My Ride: 2016 GTI SE w/PP/Boeing C-17 Globemaster III iTrader: (2)	So you used cams that didnt get a good review for high revving,with a high revving motor? __________________ -John C-17 Loadmaster DenOfDebauchery

01-10-2010, 01:19 AM	#7
2001teg Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Member #7004 My Ride: 2001 Integra GSR/Type-R iTrader: (0)	No what I should have said was the power band on the cams wasn't at motorcycle revving limits. Similar builds that I basically coppied off of made a minimum 200 whp. Im not trying to bitch about anything, I guess its more of a me wanting to make sure this is normal. Last edited by 2001teg; 01-10-2010 at 01:21 AM. Reason: Added text

01-10-2010, 01:31 AM	#8
TalonTsi97 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jan 2005 Member #136 My Ride: 1997 Eagle Talon iTrader: (21)	Like i said, every motor is different, every dyno is different, every tuner is different, the correction factor could be different, air could be different. If you were supposed to make 250whp and only made 190 i'd be concerned but if you made 190 and were expecting 200whp then that could be based off the things i just mentioned. Have any videos of the dyno runs? __________________ 1997 Eagle Talon Tsi To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Updated weekly with Dyno, Track, AutoX, Street, and Event videos. Big updates coming soon! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

01-10-2010, 01:44 AM	#9
Fujito Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2008 Member #10571 My Ride: Toyota Celica iTrader: (0)	Every dyno reads differently. The only way to know whether you got real gains or not is to get a base dyno before the mods or tune.

01-10-2010, 03:07 AM	#11
Fujito Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2008 Member #10571 My Ride: Toyota Celica iTrader: (0)	And if it makes you feel any better people on my Evo forum have based dyno'd 50 WHP less than what others have because some dyno's read very low. Don't get too caught up on the numbers. The most important thing is your butt dyno and how the car feels.

01-10-2010, 03:09 AM	#12
Foolinaround TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: McGuire AFB Member #9448 My Ride: 2016 GTI SE w/PP/Boeing C-17 Globemaster III iTrader: (2)	He is right,you cant compare dyno sheets based on so many variables that can change. __________________ -John C-17 Loadmaster DenOfDebauchery

01-10-2010, 04:12 AM	#13
PhillyLS1 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ft. Meade Member #3221 My Ride: 00 Camaro SS 11 Mustang 11 GS Vette iTrader: (0)	Only number that matters is what it does at the track. If you like the car be happy with it. __________________ "To be loved is to be fortunate, but to be hated is to achieve distinction.. " Please put me on ignore if you feel the need to read into my signatures or are a sensitive boy/girl. Your Friend, PhillyLS1 -- Currently Home/Deployed.

01-10-2010, 04:20 AM	#14
Renegade_ Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: NNJ/NYC Member #1912 My Ride: 1J Swaggon iTrader: (2)	Go to the track and see what you trap. You do know you can make a "300whp" car read over "500whp" if you calibrate the dyno wrong haha As long as you enjoy driving you car, who cares if you cant beat a C6 in a straight line haha Drive your car and enjoy it.

01-10-2010, 08:03 PM	#15
2001teg Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Member #7004 My Ride: 2001 Integra GSR/Type-R iTrader: (0)	All of what was said is comepletely true. The car still rips and is a thrill to drive. Vince at R/T did a great job, and was pretty damn informative. Feburary when the track open I will see what she runs and go from there. Maybe Ill change out cams and build a B20 bottom end after I get bored of it.

01-10-2010, 08:15 PM	#16
The Captain Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: West Philly - FBG$ Member #3369 My Ride: Prelude iTrader: (2)	almost 200whp from a b18 w/ bolt ons and some head work? I'd be pretty damn happy with that. __________________ Thank you for flying Air force Airlines. Oh me? They call me The Captain. - "America is all about speed - hot, nasty bad-ass speed." Eleanor Roosevelt (1965)

01-10-2010, 09:51 PM	#17
Foolinaround TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: McGuire AFB Member #9448 My Ride: 2016 GTI SE w/PP/Boeing C-17 Globemaster III iTrader: (2)	Exactly,there was no bottom end workk and you limited the revs. so how much were you expecting __________________ -John C-17 Loadmaster DenOfDebauchery

01-10-2010, 11:38 PM	#18
2001teg Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Member #7004 My Ride: 2001 Integra GSR/Type-R iTrader: (0)	I have different pistons 12:5 comp. Its not a completely stock bottom end. Its bored to 82mm too.

01-10-2010, 11:52 PM	#19
Foolinaround TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: McGuire AFB Member #9448 My Ride: 2016 GTI SE w/PP/Boeing C-17 Globemaster III iTrader: (2)	Did you happen to read this http://www.team-integra.net/sections...?ArticleID=233 its a good read just for more info in choosing more parts. __________________ -John C-17 Loadmaster DenOfDebauchery

01-11-2010, 12:13 AM	#20
sleeper15 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Moscow, PA Member #14620 My Ride: 08 Civic Mugen SI, 08 S2000 CR iTrader: (0)	thats really good. when i first got my hatchback over in cali, the first time i dyno'd it, all i had done to it was a intake manifold, header, exhaust, chipped p28 and mild port polish, and it hit 171whp. after i had more head work done, crower 402, 11.5:1 pistons, apex vtec controller, and larger injectors, i hit 184whp. so, if i had 12.5:1 like your, i'd be just barly over 200who myself. also, i've added a msd ignition to the car, and i need a retune (i need a hondata) __________________ 2000 Dodge Durango R/T - Going bye bye soon 2009 Acura TL SH-AWD - Daily pimp mobile 2008 Honda S2000 CR - Fanboy toy To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

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