barack obama

[ITSTOCK]

...just when you thought he couldn't be any more clueless...

I mean, really, this is our PRESIDENT. It's pathetic, way to help our world image. He is the joke of the world for crying out loud. I would be utterly ashamed and embarrassed if I were one of the fools who voted this idiot in to office. He is truly showing his lack of experience and lack of class (once again). Unfortunately it is embarrassing for all of us, not just the ones who voted him in.

Aside from this most recent embarrassment, you can read a bunch of newsworthy items here, items which you surely won't get to hear about on MSNBC...

http://conservativeamerican.org/dems...scandals-list/

While there are only 816 items to date, I'm sure you can find some of interest.
__________________________________________________ ______

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/..._worst_us.html

November 21, 2009
Obama bungle produces 'worst US-Japan summit in history'
Thomas Lifson
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/..._worst_us.html

A magazine in Tokyo is reporting that President Obama's summit with Japanese
Prime Minister Hatoyama was a frosty disaster, precipitated by incompetence on
both sides and an entirely avoidable diplomatic slight to the Japanese side by
Obama. The visit was abruptly re-scheduled, seriously inconveniencing the
Emperor of Japan, as well as the Prime Minister, whose intricate schedules
require meticulous planning and coordination.


Japanese weekly magazine Shukan Bunshun cites an unnamed insider at the Foreign
Ministry, who delivers a devastating account of not merely a failure to agree,
but figurative slaps in the face of the rude president, delivered in
retaliation. If true, President Obama has demonstrated high-handed arrogance
once again, and antagonized a key ally, weakening a relationship of critical
security and economic importance to the United States.



"To tell you the truth, it had to have been the worst US-Japan Summit Meeting in
history," a source of ours at the Foreign Ministry revealed to us.


A summary translation of the Japanese-only publication appears on Free Republic,
posted by someone with the screen name American in Tokyo. Shukan Bunshun is one
of the most prominent magazines in Japan. Although Japanese weeklies tend to be
gossipy and not always completely reliable, the corporate parent of Bunshun (as
it is familiarly known), Bungeishunju, is a very prestigious publishing company
with a track record of exposing serious political scandal. It awards Japan's
most important literary honor, the Akutagawa Prize.


It may well be that the magazine's source had some scores to settle within the
ministry, for the Japanese side is also criticized for not having its act
together. But the late schedule change, forcing the Japanese side to adjust for
Obama's convenience, is the sort of slight that tends to anger the Japanese.
Here is the meat of Obama's bungle, as reported in the weekly:


The plan was for Obama to arrive in Japan on the November 12, have his summit
meeting with Hatoyama on the 13th, and thereby jet out of Japan the following
day, the 14th to Singapore for the APEC Summit meeting. The US journalist also
revealed that the Obama administration made the sudden request to change this
schedule for Obama to the 13th (arrival in Japan), on November 7. Said the same
US journalist source, "their excuse for the delay was the shooting at Ft. Hood,
Texas on the US Army base on November 5. But the fact of the matter is, the
memorial service was on the November 10 and only took a day trip for Obama
whereupon he returned immediately to Washington. After that, he had the
National Security Council meeting on policy in Afghanistan on November 11th.
However, he could have departed Washington D.C. right after that and could have
still landed in Japan as everyone agreed and planned on, for the 12th."

--Additional screw-ups that created a possible conflict with the Emperor's
schedule and the entire Cabinet celebrating his 20 years on the throne, can be
traced to the Japanese Foreign Ministry. A ruling Democratic Party of Japan
spokesperson said "at any rate, with four days in China for Obama, the fact is
China is the big thing for them."


--Obama was made to wait five minutes in a car at the entrance way to the Prime
Minister's Official Residence, which as seen as not only a diplomatic
discourtesy, but a breach of security procedures, and furthermore it would be
recalled the Prime Minister and his wife had kept Obama waiting for a long time
in Pittsburg at the G-20 dinner as well, says foreign affairs specialist Oyama.


--It may have been felt as a diplomatic slight to get back at the Americans
because of the very sudden, troublesome last minute schedule change.


The American media aren't reporting the story, and so far Bunshun is the only
Japanese source reporting it, so far as I know.


Either President Obama wants to anger America's traditional allies, as he is
doing with the British, or he is simply a self-involved fool who can't imagine
others aren't thrilled with everything he does. Considering his botched bow, I
am going with the second hypothesis, for the moment. The bow made him appear to
be a sophomoric bumpkin.

_________________________________________________

[~Brian~]

Who cares.... Does it affect you personally? I doubt it.

I don't see what point you people are trying to prove by going online and whining all the ****ing time about how he is making mistakes. If you're so knowledgeable as to how this government should be run, please announce your candidacy for office in a few years. Until then, stfu.

[TROLL]

thats a nice credible and objective source you're referencing there...

[ScubaSteve]

Why do people get so worked up about something they can't change instead of working on something they can? Though I guess it could be said that smearing the President's name is an effort to bring about change, it's just an unfortunate method.

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by TROLL

thats a nice credible and objective source you're referencing there...

Here troll, maybe some of these are better for you...

http://conservativeamerican.org/dems...scandals-list/

[ScubaSteve]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

Here troll, maybe some of these are better for you...

http://conservativeamerican.org/dems...scandals-list/

lol That site's credibility is actually a lot worse. I'm not saying that it's a bad thing to question the actions of our Government but the way you approach it makes all the difference.

[TROLL]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

Here troll, maybe some of these are better for you...

http://conservativeamerican.org/dems...scandals-list/

dear lord... i said objective and thats what you linked me to?

the sites you're referencing, and your personal approach are both so one-sided that it really hurts their/your credibility right from the get go. thats what i'm trying to say here...

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by ScubaSteve

lol That site's credibility is actually a lot worse. I'm not saying that it's a bad thing to question the actions of our Government but the way you approach it makes all the difference.

Could you discredit anything that is posted on that site...

I'll be patiently waiting.

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by TROLL

dear lord... i said objective and thats what you linked me to?

the sites you're referencing, and your personal approach are both so one-sided that it really hurts their/your credibility right from the get go. thats what i'm trying to say here...

Could you discredit anything that is posted on that site...

I'll be patiently waiting.

I weep for the future of this country. Some of you are so blind it's a damn shame.

[TROLL]

I'm not addressing the content at all... just the ineffectiveness of what you're doing here.
You come off as someone who is not worth listening to because you are so obviously one-sided. Just thought I'd try to give you some feedback there.

If you're so concerned with things then why don't you get involved, or get out?

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by TROLL

I'm not addressing the content at all... just the ineffectiveness of what you're doing here.
You come off as someone who is not worth listening to because you are so obviously one-sided. Just thought I'd try to give you some feedback there.

If you're so concerned with things then why don't you get involved, or get out?

Wow, I missed your response like this in the Sarah Palin thread.

What gives?

Thanks. You actually proved that what I was doing was rather effective.

I'd still like any of those "scandals" disproved in a way to discredit them though.

[ITSTOCK]

You know troll, after thinking about it, I should have gone this route...

TITLE: barack obama..

Just when you thought he couldn't get any more dumb...

(and I should have proceeded to post any one of these videos)
http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...0&oq=Obama+Gaf

The 57 states one was a classic! So you are right, that method would have been much more effective. However, I'm sure you and others would come in and say the same exact thing you already stated, and would have immediately defended what he had said. Oh, the irony.

The only difference is one is our President, the other is a nobody.

[ScubaSteve]

You must have missed the point in my last post. I find nothing wrong with questioning the Government and calling out their mistakes but the method you're using to do so is a disaster. (I'm going to make an assumption here so if it's wrong my apologizes) I'm willing to bet that you haven't justified any of the claims that you're waiting for us to discredit. My guess is that you read it from someone you share a viewpoint with so now you'll blindly follow whatever they tell you. You always seem to be ready to go on the offensive against the Government but you seem unwilling to to question the statements of those you normally agree with.

I agree that we're facing a grim future but I disagree on the logic. You call people blind for not standing up against a governing body while you seem to refuse to develop your own viewpoint on the matters at hand. For some it's just easiest to agree with one side or another and not have to deal with all the little issues in between, what a shame.

[c0nfl1kt]

Just get out of the country and come back later when things are to your liking or help start a futile armed revolution, you dolt. I am sick and tired of these ultra-conservatives referencing ultra-conservative and one-sided websites that obviously reflect your views and you get some sick enjoyment out of a website out there dedicated to rubbing your ego-clit. Seriously, man, the only reason the president has not succeeded in any bipartisanship is because the GOP made it abudantly clear early on that they didn't want to play nice. They have wanted to break down the president. If that is what YOU support then I am truly ashamed at knowing you are an American since that is the most unamerican thing I can ever thing of. The GOP wants the health care bill to be Obama's "waterloo" as they have clearly said before and that is incredibly unpatriotic. You want to support your country? You can't pick and choose what to support. You either support it all the way, SHUT THE **** UP, or just move to Switzerland.

[ITSTOCK]

Don't start on the GOP, Democrats have all the votes they need to do anything they want. Unfortunately, even D's aren't bowing down to obama.

By the way, I support the Constitution and Bill of Rights all the way. What do you support?

Originally Posted by c0nfl1kt

Just get out of the country and come back later when things are to your liking or help start a futile armed revolution, you dolt. I am sick and tired of these ultra-conservatives referencing ultra-conservative and one-sided websites that obviously reflect your views and you get some sick enjoyment out of a website out there dedicated to rubbing your ego-clit. Seriously, man, the only reason the president has not succeeded in any bipartisanship is because the GOP made it abudantly clear early on that they didn't want to play nice. They have wanted to break down the president. If that is what YOU support then I am truly ashamed at knowing you are an American since that is the most unamerican thing I can ever thing of. The GOP wants the health care bill to be Obama's "waterloo" as they have clearly said before and that is incredibly unpatriotic. You want to support your country? You can't pick and choose what to support. You either support it all the way, SHUT THE **** UP, or just move to Switzerland.

[ITSTOCK]

I'm just waiting for you to discredit anything from that link.

The premise of this thread was just showing how retarded and ironical the sarah palin thread is.

Originally Posted by ScubaSteve

You must have missed the point in my last post. I find nothing wrong with questioning the Government and calling out their mistakes but the method you're using to do so is a disaster. (I'm going to make an assumption here so if it's wrong my apologizes) I'm willing to bet that you haven't justified any of the claims that you're waiting for us to discredit. My guess is that you read it from someone you share a viewpoint with so now you'll blindly follow whatever they tell you. You always seem to be ready to go on the offensive against the Government but you seem unwilling to to question the statements of those you normally agree with.

I agree that we're facing a grim future but I disagree on the logic. You call people blind for not standing up against a governing body while you seem to refuse to develop your own viewpoint on the matters at hand. For some it's just easiest to agree with one side or another and not have to deal with all the little issues in between, what a shame.

[ScubaSteve]

Originally Posted by c0nfl1kt

You want to support your country? You can't pick and choose what to support. You either support it all the way, SHUT THE **** UP, or just move to Switzerland.

Oh boy... You can certainly pick and choose what you want to support, after all we're still a democracy. I could get into the whole issue about the foundation of this country and how it was built on the dissent of its citizens but I feel like that's pretty unnecessary. Thus far my point has been that you should never feel like you have to support something just because you choose to be on the side that supports it. My idea of patriotism is being able to question anything or anyone you disagree with and working to put an end to the issue in a civilized way (when possible). But saying that makes me feel like I'm writing a 5th grade paper so I'm only going to say it once.

I'm just waiting for you to discredit anything from that link.

I really wish you'd make an attempt to read my posts because I've already addressed the matter. I think what you're having trouble understanding is why the source isn't credible while it likely (I say likely because I haven't spent the time verifying everything) has correct information on it. I don't know you're age so this might not apply very well but if you've ever had to write a research paper in the last few years (or any sort of presentation/document/thesis that required a source) you'd understand that you can't use a site like wikipedia as a credible source. But wikipedia is full of correct information, right? The issue is with the nature of the site and not (entirely ) the material on it. Like Troll said earlier, using bad sources like the link you provided only works to discredit you. I wouldn't reference an article on wikipedia to argue my opinions on quantum mechanical theory because no one would listen. So why would you reference a site that makes its bias all too clear in order to argue your viewpoint? I'd be much more likely to give consideration to what you're saying if you presented factual information independently along with your opinion on the matter or the opinion of a qualified third party.

[lagos]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

Could you discredit anything that is posted on that site...

I'll be patiently waiting.

Hang on, I'm pretty sure there is a LiberalAmerican.org on the net as well that talks about how awesome he is.

[ITSTOCK]

Originally Posted by lagos

Hang on, I'm pretty sure there is a LiberalAmerican.org on the net as well that talks about how awesome he is.

Sure, as long as there are facts that support what they state, I'm all for it. I'm not saying everything that obama has done so far is a political gaffe or scandal, but boy oh boy, he sure has a lot of them, huh!

Without his teleprompter, he makes even sarah palin look like a genius!

[lagos]

Originally Posted by ITSTOCK

Sure, as long as there are facts that support what they state, I'm all for it. I'm not saying everything that obama has done so far is a political gaffe or scandal, but boy oh boy, he sure has a lot of them, huh!

Without his teleprompter, he makes even sarah palin look like a genius!

For the record, he is an upgrade from Bush.

And if you honestly believe that Sarah Palin has any place in politics, then good for you.