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DsmRob · 10-17-2009, 12:21 PM

I just finished installing a set of 3g revised lifters from itm that I got off ebay for $60.00. My question was anyone here install a set and low long after priming did the ticking go away?

laser92dsm · 10-17-2009, 01:05 PM

I want to do this to my car and i have been reading up on it. People say if they are not primmed it could take 20 min, but since you primmed them it should go away in about 5 to 10 min.

DsmRob · 10-17-2009, 01:16 PM

Ok cool just wanted to make sure, the install was really easy. It took me abt 30min.

laser92dsm · 10-17-2009, 02:24 PM

Nice I was wondering which method did you use to change them the pop the rocker arm off or the one that you have to take the cams off?

DsmRob · 10-17-2009, 02:38 PM

I loosen the cam cap bolts just a little and used a prybar to pop the rockers off. The install is easy once you bleed the new lifters down the rockers just slide right in.

laser92dsm · 10-17-2009, 11:54 PM

Ok thanks thats most likely what I am going to do to my talon when i get the lifters off ebay.

assault187 · 10-18-2009, 01:21 AM

hold the revs @ 3K...it will be gone in under a min.

dsmtuner · 10-18-2009, 12:40 PM

What he said^^^

1000whpTSi · 10-29-2009, 09:53 AM

If your going to run 3G HLA's I would invest in a Kiggly HLA Pressure regulator. Basically It limits the oil pressure to the HLA's to a constant 15psi thus allowing you to run higher rpm's without experiancing valve. It also is a big plus for the bottom end. It aids in diverting more oil to the bearings. If the car is a daily driver with not much upgraded you can get away with just running the 3G's and a JDM HLA Pressure reg. But if this is a street/strip or straight up drag car I would definately get an aftermarket HLA regulator. Kiggly and Magnus both offer one. They go for roughly $150
Jake M. owner of the Evil Eagle has stated before that he picked up 4-5mph through the traps by switching back to 1G lifters. For drag racing applications the 1G lifters are suggested. The oil passage is quite a bit larger on 3G lifters compared to the 1G OEM lifters. This might be a good thing on a mostly stock DD DSM. However not a good thing in a drag car running high rpm for 9-10 seconds at a time. Especially if your running an aggressive type camshaft.Sorry if this seems a little scattered. I've had a whole pot of coffee this morning!

assault187 · 10-29-2009, 10:09 AM

^ good info

DsmRob · 10-29-2009, 01:14 PM

Thanks guys for the info.

KawBoy · 10-29-2009, 03:25 PM

Hows he gain MPH from lifters with smaller holes?

bl@ckvr4 · 10-30-2009, 02:32 PM

My 3000GT had terrible lifter tick with the original 1mm lifters. After installing the 3mm (3g) lifters, the ticking went away in about a day or so. I haven't heard a tick since.

1000whpTSi · 10-31-2009, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KawBoy

Hows he gain MPH from lifters with smaller holes?

I hate quoting from other sites. Read up on it at either DSMTalk or Tuners. I believe he posted about it on both. If you can't find it I'll elaborate.

1000whpTSi · 10-31-2009, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bl@ckvr4

My 3000GT had terrible lifter tick with the original 1mm lifters. After installing the 3mm (3g) lifters, the ticking went away in about a day or so. I haven't heard a tick since.

For most the 3G's will work fine. However in a drag race application the 1G's yielded better results. Also,the 6G72 found in the VR-4 is quite different than the high revving 4 cylinder 4G63.
The biggest issue associated with the DSM lifters are centered around loss of contact between the rocker arm and lifter at high rpm when using high lift camshafts.
Lifter tick is basically when the lifter encounters the "pump up" effect. Thus not allowing for the lifter to function. What you hear ticking is the rocker arms losing and gaining contact with the lifters.

10-17-2009, 12:21 PM	#1
DsmRob Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pottstown, Pa Member #10847 My Ride: '90 Talon Tsi, '91 Talon Tsi, '92 gvr4, '04 Escape iTrader: (17)	Dsm Revised Lifters? I just finished installing a set of 3g revised lifters from itm that I got off ebay for $60.00. My question was anyone here install a set and low long after priming did the ticking go away?

10-18-2009, 01:21 AM	#7
assault187 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Montgomery county Member #2176 My Ride: 97 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST Spyder AWD iTrader: (3)	hold the revs @ 3K...it will be gone in under a min. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. World record holder for Quickest and Fastest 1/4 mile Spyder, 4 cylinder vert, 1st in 10's, 2.0L 4G63 Holset record, Modified Mag December 2010, Self built, self tuned.

10-18-2009, 12:40 PM	#8
dsmtuner Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2090 My Ride: 93 Eagle Talon TSI AWD(The Racecar), 02 Audi A4(The Daily) iTrader: (2)	What he said^^^ __________________ Doug

10-29-2009, 09:53 AM	#9
1000whpTSi Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: NY Member #8766 My Ride: 1992 Eagle Talon TSi AWD iTrader: (0)	If your going to run 3G HLA's I would invest in a Kiggly HLA Pressure regulator. Basically It limits the oil pressure to the HLA's to a constant 15psi thus allowing you to run higher rpm's without experiancing valve. It also is a big plus for the bottom end. It aids in diverting more oil to the bearings. If the car is a daily driver with not much upgraded you can get away with just running the 3G's and a JDM HLA Pressure reg. But if this is a street/strip or straight up drag car I would definately get an aftermarket HLA regulator. Kiggly and Magnus both offer one. They go for roughly $150 Jake M. owner of the Evil Eagle has stated before that he picked up 4-5mph through the traps by switching back to 1G lifters. For drag racing applications the 1G lifters are suggested. The oil passage is quite a bit larger on 3G lifters compared to the 1G OEM lifters. This might be a good thing on a mostly stock DD DSM. However not a good thing in a drag car running high rpm for 9-10 seconds at a time. Especially if your running an aggressive type camshaft.Sorry if this seems a little scattered. I've had a whole pot of coffee this morning! __________________ 92' Talon TSi-Drag car - GT4202 / Shearer top mount / Shep Dogbox / Haltech E11v2 / Weldon 2345-A / Hogan custom SMIM / Wilson Billit 90mm TB / J&S SAFEGAURD-Individual cylinder knock controll system / DSS Level 5 axles / DSS 3.5" HD Driveshaft /

10-29-2009, 10:09 AM	#10
assault187 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Montgomery county Member #2176 My Ride: 97 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST Spyder AWD iTrader: (3)	^ good info __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. World record holder for Quickest and Fastest 1/4 mile Spyder, 4 cylinder vert, 1st in 10's, 2.0L 4G63 Holset record, Modified Mag December 2010, Self built, self tuned.

10-17-2009, 01:05 PM	#2
laser92dsm Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Member #14720 My Ride: gets me from point A to point B iTrader: (3)	I want to do this to my car and i have been reading up on it. People say if they are not primmed it could take 20 min, but since you primmed them it should go away in about 5 to 10 min.

10-17-2009, 01:16 PM	#3
DsmRob Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pottstown, Pa Member #10847 My Ride: '90 Talon Tsi, '91 Talon Tsi, '92 gvr4, '04 Escape iTrader: (17)	Ok cool just wanted to make sure, the install was really easy. It took me abt 30min.

10-17-2009, 02:24 PM	#4
laser92dsm Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Member #14720 My Ride: gets me from point A to point B iTrader: (3)	Nice I was wondering which method did you use to change them the pop the rocker arm off or the one that you have to take the cams off?

10-17-2009, 02:38 PM	#5
DsmRob Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pottstown, Pa Member #10847 My Ride: '90 Talon Tsi, '91 Talon Tsi, '92 gvr4, '04 Escape iTrader: (17)	I loosen the cam cap bolts just a little and used a prybar to pop the rockers off. The install is easy once you bleed the new lifters down the rockers just slide right in.

10-17-2009, 11:54 PM	#6
laser92dsm Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Wappingers Falls, NY Member #14720 My Ride: gets me from point A to point B iTrader: (3)	Ok thanks thats most likely what I am going to do to my talon when i get the lifters off ebay.

10-29-2009, 01:14 PM	#11
DsmRob Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Pottstown, Pa Member #10847 My Ride: '90 Talon Tsi, '91 Talon Tsi, '92 gvr4, '04 Escape iTrader: (17)	Thanks guys for the info.

10-29-2009, 03:25 PM	#12
KawBoy Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ Member #2755 My Ride: WW EVO VIII iTrader: (0)	Hows he gain MPH from lifters with smaller holes?

10-30-2009, 02:32 PM	#13
bl@ckvr4 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Member #4236 My Ride: 1992 mitsubishi VR4 iTrader: (1)	My 3000GT had terrible lifter tick with the original 1mm lifters. After installing the 3mm (3g) lifters, the ticking went away in about a day or so. I haven't heard a tick since. __________________ 1992 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 =:The ecstasy lasts as long as the gasoline:= 1993 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 =:Yes. Another one.:= 1997 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS =:Danger to manifold!:= 1991 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4 =:No, it's not for sale.:=

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