muscle is back... 2010 muscle cars debate

[DaBombDiggidy]

itll get heated in here, but then again its all in good conversation. also dont bring up the genesis its not a muscle car and is not in the same world as these cars... also answer starting like this

Most impressed:
Least impressed:






First: Camaro SS
Base Price: $28145
422-hp 6.2-liter LS3 V8 six-speed manual hits 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and runs a 13.4-second quarter-mile at 108 mph
while...300-horsepower 3.6-liter V6-equipped Camaro will run from zero to 60 mph in 6.1 seconds regardless of transmission choice

Second: Dodge Challenger R/T
Base Price: $30220
370 horsepower and 398 pound-feet. This is accomplished via variable valve timing as well as a higher compression ratio, now 10.5 instead of 9.6. Opting for the Tremec six-speed in place of the five-speed auto on the R/T bumps those numbers further, to 375 and 404

Third: Ford Mustang GT
Base Price: $27995
4.6-liter V8 with 315 hp and 325 lb-ft of torque (335 lb-ft on premium fuel, which is not required). Expect a 0-60-mph sprint in the low 5-second range for the GT model




while iv been an import fan for some time now... american power is coming back strong horsepower numbers are not even close between these and comparable sti and evo (both of which are much more expensive). its amazing because most debates say quality of imports is better, but i have personally seen the new camaro and mustang interior and well i think my pants were a bit wet. yes yes interior is not everything, but all three have very reliable powertrains

[Nick Merrone]

1.Camaro
2.Mustang
3.Challenger

Camaro - too big, but very fast and sweet looking
Mustang - Looks so nice in the baby blue color(not shown.) but nice little cowl, and the cheapest. and 0-60 in under 5 sec's is good enough for me.
challenger - dad has one, and hes working on getting a camaro next, I really don't like the challenger. But I guess its cool

[DaBombDiggidy]

Most Impressed: Ford mustang gt... while they kept with the 4.6, there is mumbelings of them using the 5.0 soon (never thought id say i liked a ford). i also really like the looks of this car i always said i hated the last modle mustangs but they needed a little tweak to look great

Least Impressed: Dodge Challenger... while it looks the best to me, the weight and mediocre power numbers hurt it alot in my eyes



EDIT::: my bad the mustang is going back to the 5.0 for 2011 using the motor out of the f150... very interesting

[240sxDann]

5.6??? I heard 5.0, the Coyote motor. http://www.stangnet.com/2010-Ford-Mu...nt-080922.html

[DaBombDiggidy]

yeah i edited that... the 5.6 is in the cobras from this gen i think

[jjm4life]

camaro-newest and therefore im impressed by it
mustang-noticeble upgrades for this year, but needs more power. and a legit v6 option to compete with comaro
challenger- never cared for it from day one. sedan disguised as a coupe, although a cool looking one in srt trim.


o and by the way.. you say dont compare to evo/sti but on numbers alone both hang. hell a stock evo 8 would run low 13s from the showroom floor back in 03. these cars might hove 300+from the factory, but clearly its just a number. im sure with basic mods all of them will be much quicker. just a little devils advocate.

[Saab93Aero]

Most Impressed: Camaro SS 100%!! that thing is bad ass

the mustang gt is alright, but they have been getting played out latley imho

Least Impressed: Challenger R/T... that poor thing, i see a black one around my area all the time, i see it from a distance and i think WTF is that, keeps getting closer and i start to think damn, that thing is ugly! then it passes and i think to my self "that poor thing couldn't get the recognition it dissevers unless i saw him burning out"

they just look goofy imo.

now if i was given one, i would deffinitly have to be burning out EVERYWHERE!! since ppl will be saying my car is ugly as f***

[ndubz]

as far as for these american muscle cars, i just have to pick the challenger as my favorite amongst the normal versions. Shelby gt500 is my favorite overall.

I get what u mean about this is for "muscle cars", but to not consider the Japanese and european cars too in the lower price ranges is kinda narrow sighted. its the 21st century, and an evo, Z, or sti, is just as much a muscle car as the modern mustang, camaro, and challenger. With regard to their place in pop culture, purpose, and performance. They are just as much equivalent in todays car culture as the old school muscle cars of the 60s-70s, as the american muscle cars of today. just being real.

But I know you want to keep this to american muscle cars so carry on. I like them all to be honest, and they all have bige factory performance parts that can push them far past stock and still keep the warranty. good stuff

[240sxDann]

Originally Posted by DaBombDiggidy

yeah i edited that... the 5.6 is in the cobras from this gen i think

They're 5.4, not 5.6.

[poolmike]

I love the new Challenger. It would be perfect with a real Hemi under the hood.

[87fierogt]

Originally Posted by poolmike

I love the new Challenger. It would be perfect with a real Hemi under the hood.

i agree 100% they look the closest to their name nameplate. so they get a number 1 in my book,camaro is number 2 and stang comes in last

[DPancoast]

1. Challenger
2. Mustang
3. Camaro

I just never could and still can't get into Camaros. All though I must say that I have a feeling this new look will grow on me real fast when I see it in person. I love the aggressive lines of the pics... same with the Challenger. The Mustang is just always a favorite with me because I have always seen what they can become and have been impressed. It's cool that the Domestic market isn't backing down to the Import scene.

[DaBombDiggidy]

yeah im not much of a ford fan lol always been into gm though i just really think the new camaro is way to bulky and the back end of it looks like the artist died. if ford had been putting the 5.4 in the mustangs that, in my eyes, would be a hands down winnner. but then again everyone is going to be going nuts for the 5.0

and to the import crowd i understand the arguements and all. it is just great that american manufacturing is sticking to what they know and making (finally after almost a decade) a successful lineup of cars that is different from the pack (big motor low price) same as they did before, and can seemingly be successful from it.

[Scapegoat]

you really can't complain about any of these cars within context. they're all great representations of what drove the american love of automobiles.

I haven't seen a new camaro in person yet, nor have i driven any of the mentioned vehicles...

Each has their place though.

The new mustang is a "light weight" muscle car that will do well on the track or strip. With a factory warrantied supercharger from Ford Racing (400bhp) you're looking at an awesome performer with the track package.

the camaro ss is the new "bang for your buck" winner for me... i built one on chevy's site just under 35k... 400+hp... and i'm sure goodies coming out for them from GM (if they're around long enough to produce the goodies)

the challenger... is a beautiful machine... heavy and bulky... just like a classic muscle car. if anything, it remains true to it's roots. But in todays age of vehicles, where we want to be able to stop on a dime and take turns at 60+... its really to fat.

I'd take any of them... and with chrysler in meltdown mode and dealerships possibly trying to unload ASAP and switch makers we may see the price of the srt-8 drop to camaro ss and mustang gt areas instead of used gt500 areas

[OMGz Turbo]

Umm ill take the camaro with the 572ci when it becomes released if it ever will be.

If the 5.0 comes back though ill go back to my roots of course.

[Scapegoat]

Originally Posted by OMGz Turbo

Umm ill take the camaro with the 572ci when it becomes released if it ever will be.

If the 5.0 comes back though ill go back to my roots of course.

the rumor has it the 2011 mustang gt will have the option of the TTV6 or a 5.0

[Elliott18t]

mmm TTv6.. even though Im all for a v8 in a mustang, a TT v6 just has so much potential.

[93turbocx]

im really not impressed with any of them, mustang is ugly, camaro is ok, i guess the only one that i would be seen driving in would b the challenger. just wish it had that original hemi

[Scapegoat]

Originally Posted by Elliott18t

mmm TTv6.. even though Im all for a v8 in a mustang, a TT v6 just has so much potential.

i think they're both rated to be about the same HP factory, and cost the same as well.

I'm having a tough time deciding which one i'd prefer... i mean, you could TT the 5.0...

or do the usual V8 mods that get big power... though, its probably safe to assume that you could up the boost and fuel on the v6 without much difficulty... but then again, what kind of control will the computer have?

not sure which i'd prefer...

[Elliott18t]

thats alot of ...'s lol.

yeah, its a tough decision. I would imagine TTing the 5.0 while badass would cost a ton at first. I don't know how ford computers works so tuning from their ecu alone idk how well that would work. I would think that tuning the v6 would be more cost effective.. at least at first. is the 5.0 a SOHC again? if so