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S4toSTI · 09-04-2008, 03:45 PM

http://gizmodo.com/5045414/say-goodb...to-belt-drives

Gorilla Unit 33 · 09-04-2008, 03:52 PM

I saw this on the come up the other day. Theres no way this will last in the BMX scene. People already teach themselves how to ride chainless. It was also on Kanye West's blog, he's trying to promote this so i hear. He = fail

lownslow95 · 09-04-2008, 04:01 PM

I guess this would work out. I don't think it will happen right away, but I could see this happening this in the near future.

Honduh · 09-04-2008, 05:53 PM

I fail to see how they wont stretch or break. And it would still more than likely need some lube to prevent premature wear since its still a moving part.

The Captain · 09-04-2008, 06:54 PM

ummm ex. timing belt vs timing chain. Timing chain you don't change, belt you do...how the **** are they arguing that belts won't stretch and break?! It's just another way for them to make money because now you'll have to change your belt every x couple of years.

den9 · 09-04-2008, 07:28 PM

i would definetly buy it, wouldnt work too well one a fixed gear bike if u trade braking with knee lock up

whoever said it would stretch or break, get out from under the rock, theres a possibility just like chains breaking, but motorcycles been using belts for a long time, its easier on the engine too.

most harleys use this system also

Action Park · 09-04-2008, 07:31 PM

93
I'm suprised that it took this long. Bike chains stretch folks. I can definately see a cog drive belt lasting way longer than a chain. Without the vibrations and high rpms of an engine, for example, they cant be compared. I'm sure they can be made stronger too. And yes, quieter. Also, a belt will surely articulate better than a rusty ol' chain(i.e. less "drivetrain" loss). Only issue I can see would be that a belt would be less forgiving to inadequate tension. Verdict for a pedal bike= belt>chain.
93 93/93

DropTopChevy · 09-04-2008, 08:33 PM

Heard about this about a month ago and I had the question of stretch also.

den9 · 09-04-2008, 09:48 PM

if they run them on motorcycles, pedaling wont be an issue with stretch, no more popped chains ftw, i cant wait for these to go mainstream

russiankid · 09-04-2008, 10:01 PM

That pic in the link is on a fixed gear bike. That rubber must be hella strong because if you skid on a fixed it puts a lot of stress on the chain.

DropTopChevy · 09-04-2008, 10:02 PM

I'll let you know if any come into the shop.

DropTopChevy · 09-04-2008, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by russiankid

That pic in the link is on a fixed gear bike. That rubber must be hella strong because if you skid on a fixed it puts a lot of stress on the chain.

Sprockets are not fixed.
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...district,empty

russiankid · 09-04-2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DropTopChevy

Sprockets are not fixed.
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...district,empty

Looks fixed from the pics.

den9 · 09-07-2008, 04:41 AM

damn didnt know it was for sale, looks tempting

CleanNeon98 · 09-07-2008, 12:55 PM

No more gear changes, these new bikes will have CVT transmissions haha

gpzjack · 09-07-2008, 01:38 PM

lol...at first i thought you were talking abou mc's ....i have a shafty anyway. I have to think it would feel kinda strange when you pedal.

**Got Insulin?** · 09-07-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorilla Unit 33

I saw this on the come up the other day. Theres no way this will last in the BMX scene. People already teach themselves how to ride chainless.

Scooters FTW! I don't know how those dudes do it. I wastched some dude drop into the halfie at FDR the other day sans chain. But I'll let you guys know if any come through the shop I work at.

frosti108 · 09-07-2008, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Action Park

93
I'm suprised that it took this long. Bike chains stretch folks. I can definately see a cog drive belt lasting way longer than a chain. Without the vibrations and high rpms of an engine, for example, they cant be compared. I'm sure they can be made stronger too. And yes, quieter. Also, a belt will surely articulate better than a rusty ol' chain(i.e. less "drivetrain" loss). Only issue I can see would be that a belt would be less forgiving to inadequate tension. Verdict for a pedal bike= belt>chain.
93 93/93

im pretty sure belts eat up more HP than chains.

xEJ20x · 09-08-2008, 09:25 AM

And it took them this long to do finally think of this.....

den9 · 09-08-2008, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frosti108

im pretty sure belts eat up more HP than chains.

that could be true, but belts definetly make for a smoother ride, im sure they are easier on the transmission too. on a sport bike id choose a chain anyday

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09-04-2008, 06:54 PM	#5
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09-04-2008, 08:33 PM	#8
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09-04-2008, 05:53 PM	#4
Honduh Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Member #1977 iTrader: (0)	I fail to see how they wont stretch or break. And it would still more than likely need some lube to prevent premature wear since its still a moving part.

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den9 Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: doylestown Member #1198 My Ride: turbo diesel iTrader: (0)	i would definetly buy it, wouldnt work too well one a fixed gear bike if u trade braking with knee lock up whoever said it would stretch or break, get out from under the rock, theres a possibility just like chains breaking, but motorcycles been using belts for a long time, its easier on the engine too. most harleys use this system also

09-04-2008, 07:31 PM	#7
Action Park Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Fugue Member #2802 My Ride: bug and a rabbit iTrader: (0)	93 I'm suprised that it took this long. Bike chains stretch folks. I can definately see a cog drive belt lasting way longer than a chain. Without the vibrations and high rpms of an engine, for example, they cant be compared. I'm sure they can be made stronger too. And yes, quieter. Also, a belt will surely articulate better than a rusty ol' chain(i.e. less "drivetrain" loss). Only issue I can see would be that a belt would be less forgiving to inadequate tension. Verdict for a pedal bike= belt>chain. 93 93/93

09-04-2008, 09:48 PM	#9
den9 Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: doylestown Member #1198 My Ride: turbo diesel iTrader: (0)	if they run them on motorcycles, pedaling wont be an issue with stretch, no more popped chains ftw, i cant wait for these to go mainstream

09-04-2008, 10:01 PM	#10
russiankid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lincoln University PA Member #7769 My Ride: 2012 Scion tC iTrader: (0)	That pic in the link is on a fixed gear bike. That rubber must be hella strong because if you skid on a fixed it puts a lot of stress on the chain.

09-07-2008, 04:41 AM	#14
den9 Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: doylestown Member #1198 My Ride: turbo diesel iTrader: (0)	damn didnt know it was for sale, looks tempting

09-07-2008, 01:38 PM	#16
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