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driftingrx5.7 · 06-28-2008, 09:32 PM

Ok here is the story! i have been hunting for a bike for a few weeks now. I finally found one and he agreed to my price! So i called him to find out when we wanted to meet up and all that good stuff. So i asked him if i could see the title first so i can make sure its not R title. He got a little quite for a sec and said "yeah about that, I don't have the title yet. i paid it off and they told me it will take 2 to 3 weeks for me to get the title." So he tells me that this week was week 3 and still nothing. So he tells me that there is a form that we have to fill out at the dmv which will direct the title to me. Does anyone know what the heck he is talking about?

SovXietday · 06-28-2008, 09:38 PM

Stay away from that ****. There are other bikes out there.

If he can produce the title, no problem. Otherwise, I wouldn't go around filling out forms and all that other ****.

240sxDann · 06-28-2008, 09:44 PM

agreed. eff it. let HIM deal with getting the title. continue your search. if he happens to come up with it in the meantime, awesome, if not, you saved yourself a whooooooole load of crap.

ilovecoupes · 06-28-2008, 09:45 PM

So, you bought it without a title?

how do you know it isn't stolen?

driftingrx5.7 · 06-28-2008, 10:07 PM

yeah i dont know anything about buying a bike or car without a title i don't want to fill out an form or anything i just want the title. so upset about this i found a bunch of the same bike but everyone wants 8000 or 7600 i have 7200 and i am so mad that i can't get this one!! ANGERING

ScoobyNubieToo! · 06-28-2008, 10:12 PM

Why don't you see if the police will run a vin check to see if the bike has been reported stolen?

driftingrx5.7 · 06-28-2008, 10:15 PM

i already got the carfax on it its not stolen he is the second owner of the bike. i just don't know how or what to do with this. i have never had a something like this happen before. Like what happens if you sell your car that you have a loan on and you have someone to buy the car off you and the bank still has the title. what do you do about that? don't you have to pay off the loan to get the title released to you?

P_856 · 06-28-2008, 10:30 PM

yup you would have to pay off the bank 1st before you can get the title or work it out with the bank and get the payments transfered to you and get the title in your name

driftingrx5.7 · 06-29-2008, 12:19 AM

well according to him he paid off the bike about a month ago and then when he called the bank they told him they sent the title to penn dot and now penn dot needs to send it to him. but he was told from the bank to call penn dot and i can fill out a form with him and have the title sent to me. that is what i never seen before!

driftingrx5.7 · 06-29-2008, 12:22 AM

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms...rms/mv-38o.pdf this is the form he told me we have to fill out

TGilb2007 · 06-29-2008, 12:33 AM

Walk away. If you have $7,200 cash in hand, I am sure someone will take that.

Nors · 06-29-2008, 12:33 AM

i'd just wait until the title is in his hand. maybe give him a deposit (with a reciept!)
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probevette · 06-29-2008, 01:21 AM

Carfax blows for bikes. Its never updated or right. Running the vin at the dmv will help but it may be a stolen bike that was not reported. Trying to app for a title to a bike without one requires you and the dmv to contact the former legal owner. Then they can always fight the sale in court and win their bike back.

When I catch you on monday just remind me about this. I can give you any legal advice about motorcycle titles in PA you'll ever need.

driftingrx5.7 · 06-29-2008, 10:25 PM

yeah i am just going to wait for a few days because its going to rain anyway so i will wait until friday to see if he gets the title! that the whole reason i am working there :D

driftingrx5.7 · 07-01-2008, 11:40 AM

well i kept shopping and i found a bunch more of the bike i am looking for and NONE and i mean NONE of them have the titles. they all need to pay off a bank or something to get there loans. i have no clue what else to do! and all the dealers have an 05 for almost the same price as buying an 08! i want to shoot someone!!! i have the cash to buy it but i don't want to leave with no title!

420sx · 01-15-2009, 03:22 AM

I did this with my Integra. When I bought it, the previous owner still had a lease on it, so we couldnt swap the title. I gave him 50% of our agreed price, and he signed that form that youre talking about. When I recieved the title from Harrisburg, I sent him the remaining 50%.

ndubz · 01-15-2009, 03:47 AM

No title=No Sale. If u dont have the title, then u could get royaly ****ed by this guy if he's just hiding it from u. He could call it in stolen and probly could sue u amongst other things. remember possession is 9/10 of the law. Just dont do it bro.

420sx · 01-15-2009, 04:12 AM

If he signed the form to have the title forwarded to him, that shouldnt be a problem. He also wouldnt be leaving without a signed (and hopefully notarized) bill of sale. Its really not the complicated mess that everyone makes it out to be.

gorabbit · 01-16-2009, 11:32 PM

find a different car to buy

malloyboy1 · 01-16-2009, 11:40 PM

the longest ive ever seen it take to get a title from a bank was like 16 days or if the bank is local you can go pick it up. ask him if his bank is in another continent............... its prolly stolen, stolen things take a while to get the titles, if ever

06-28-2008, 09:32 PM	#1
driftingrx5.7 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Poconos PA Member #3099 My Ride: 88 rx5.7 iTrader: (0)	what to do if a person doesn't have the title? Ok here is the story! i have been hunting for a bike for a few weeks now. I finally found one and he agreed to my price! So i called him to find out when we wanted to meet up and all that good stuff. So i asked him if i could see the title first so i can make sure its not R title. He got a little quite for a sec and said "yeah about that, I don't have the title yet. i paid it off and they told me it will take 2 to 3 weeks for me to get the title." So he tells me that this week was week 3 and still nothing. So he tells me that there is a form that we have to fill out at the dmv which will direct the title to me. Does anyone know what the heck he is talking about? __________________ my v8 rx7build To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-28-2008, 10:07 PM	#5
driftingrx5.7 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Poconos PA Member #3099 My Ride: 88 rx5.7 iTrader: (0)	yeah i dont know anything about buying a bike or car without a title i don't want to fill out an form or anything i just want the title. so upset about this i found a bunch of the same bike but everyone wants 8000 or 7600 i have 7200 and i am so mad that i can't get this one!! ANGERING __________________ my v8 rx7build To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-28-2008, 10:12 PM	#6
ScoobyNubieToo! Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Williamstown Member #862 My Ride: WRB 2004 WRX Wagon with 07 STI Trans and Longblock inside! iTrader: (7)	Why don't you see if the police will run a vin check to see if the bike has been reported stolen? __________________ 2004 WRX WRB Wagon with 07 STI Trans and Longblock inside! See my member's journal here: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-28-2008, 10:15 PM	#7
driftingrx5.7 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Poconos PA Member #3099 My Ride: 88 rx5.7 iTrader: (0)	i already got the carfax on it its not stolen he is the second owner of the bike. i just don't know how or what to do with this. i have never had a something like this happen before. Like what happens if you sell your car that you have a loan on and you have someone to buy the car off you and the bank still has the title. what do you do about that? don't you have to pay off the loan to get the title released to you? __________________ my v8 rx7build To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-29-2008, 12:19 AM	#9
driftingrx5.7 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Poconos PA Member #3099 My Ride: 88 rx5.7 iTrader: (0)	well according to him he paid off the bike about a month ago and then when he called the bank they told him they sent the title to penn dot and now penn dot needs to send it to him. but he was told from the bank to call penn dot and i can fill out a form with him and have the title sent to me. that is what i never seen before! __________________ my v8 rx7build To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-28-2008, 09:45 PM	#4
ilovecoupes Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: State College, Pa Member #7503 My Ride: Nissan 240sx iTrader: (0)	So, you bought it without a title? how do you know it isn't stolen?

06-28-2008, 10:30 PM	#8
P_856 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: South Jersey Member #3787 My Ride: s13 iTrader: (4)	yup you would have to pay off the bank 1st before you can get the title or work it out with the bank and get the payments transfered to you and get the title in your name

06-29-2008, 12:22 AM	#10
driftingrx5.7 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Poconos PA Member #3099 My Ride: 88 rx5.7 iTrader: (0)	http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms...rms/mv-38o.pdf this is the form he told me we have to fill out __________________ my v8 rx7build To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-29-2008, 12:33 AM	#11
TGilb2007 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Newark, DE/Providence, RI Member #3189 My Ride: 2006 Chevy Cobalt iTrader: (0)	Walk away. If you have $7,200 cash in hand, I am sure someone will take that. __________________ 06 Cobalt LT (Daily) / 99 W Cabrio (Project)

06-29-2008, 12:33 AM	#12
Nors Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: DelCo, PA Member #2210 My Ride: 2011 VW GTI iTrader: (1)	i'd just wait until the title is in his hand. maybe give him a deposit (with a reciept!) Posted via Mobile Device

06-29-2008, 01:21 AM	#13
probevette Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Poconos PA Member #5313 My Ride: Slow Audi's iTrader: (2)	Carfax blows for bikes. Its never updated or right. Running the vin at the dmv will help but it may be a stolen bike that was not reported. Trying to app for a title to a bike without one requires you and the dmv to contact the former legal owner. Then they can always fight the sale in court and win their bike back. When I catch you on monday just remind me about this. I can give you any legal advice about motorcycle titles in PA you'll ever need. __________________ Greenway's Car Care Products DipFactory CarbonWerkz

06-29-2008, 10:25 PM	#14
driftingrx5.7 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Poconos PA Member #3099 My Ride: 88 rx5.7 iTrader: (0)	yeah i am just going to wait for a few days because its going to rain anyway so i will wait until friday to see if he gets the title! that the whole reason i am working there :D __________________ my v8 rx7build To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-01-2008, 11:40 AM	#15
driftingrx5.7 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Poconos PA Member #3099 My Ride: 88 rx5.7 iTrader: (0)	well i kept shopping and i found a bunch more of the bike i am looking for and NONE and i mean NONE of them have the titles. they all need to pay off a bank or something to get there loans. i have no clue what else to do! and all the dealers have an 05 for almost the same price as buying an 08! i want to shoot someone!!! i have the cash to buy it but i don't want to leave with no title! __________________ my v8 rx7build To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

01-15-2009, 03:22 AM	#16
420sx Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warrington, PA Member #2811 My Ride: '98 240sx, 98 Impreza L, 00 SV650 iTrader: (5)	I did this with my Integra. When I bought it, the previous owner still had a lease on it, so we couldnt swap the title. I gave him 50% of our agreed price, and he signed that form that youre talking about. When I recieved the title from Harrisburg, I sent him the remaining 50%. __________________ loltst

01-15-2009, 03:47 AM	#17
ndubz Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: tristate area Member #6107 iTrader: (1)	No title=No Sale. If u dont have the title, then u could get royaly ****ed by this guy if he's just hiding it from u. He could call it in stolen and probly could sue u amongst other things. remember possession is 9/10 of the law. Just dont do it bro.

01-15-2009, 04:12 AM	#18
420sx Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Warrington, PA Member #2811 My Ride: '98 240sx, 98 Impreza L, 00 SV650 iTrader: (5)	If he signed the form to have the title forwarded to him, that shouldnt be a problem. He also wouldnt be leaving without a signed (and hopefully notarized) bill of sale. Its really not the complicated mess that everyone makes it out to be. __________________ loltst

01-16-2009, 11:32 PM	#19
gorabbit Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Mar 2008 Member #7275 My Ride: 2000 Integra Type R iTrader: (0)	find a different car to buy

01-16-2009, 11:40 PM	#20
malloyboy1 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: sellersville, PA Member #5438 My Ride: 05 subaru wrx iTrader: (2)	the longest ive ever seen it take to get a title from a bank was like 16 days or if the bank is local you can go pick it up. ask him if his bank is in another continent............... its prolly stolen, stolen things take a while to get the titles, if ever

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