Running talk

[antlip]

Anyone here run? Like 2 miles daily or anything around that? I have been training running 1.5 miles. I managed to get it down to anywhere between my fastest 11:04 and 11:27 consistently. What do you guys eat to help you out? I was eating salads and healthy foods. Fruits, vegetables, and pasta. That seems to be wearing me out. I changed my diet back to normal but still cutting out my fast food. I have been eating a couple slices of pizza, hoagies, sausage, and meatballs. Not all in 1 day of course and never over eating. Doing this has seemed to help me have more energy for the 2 mile runs. I think because when I started I was 170 and now I am down to 154. I think losing all that weight and leaving my body with no fat to burn was hurting me. I also learned to breath just using my nose and not getting cotton mouth. That was a killer dieing of thirst like I was lost in a desert for a week. The shin splints from running on the road also sucked. I was wrapping my leg and icing it at night. Then I found I could run at my local middle school where they have a rubber track. My right leg is fine but my left leg is still kind of sore. It doesn’t hurt me every time and now its now a real pain when I run. I stretch it out before and after I run really well. Any suggestions on that? Well that kind of sums of what I wanted to say, any good long distance runners on here want to throw in there .2 cents and guide me please do.

[ITSTOCK]

I run 1.5 miles every day, but I don't do anything special other then stretch. The "long distance" runners that I know literally laugh at 1.5 miles. I'm clocking in right around/under 9.30 for 1.5miles (though I'm pretty damn gassed at the end, I've always been a sprinter).

Your shin splints can be caused by a couple of things, but my problem was I was stretching my legs when running, or too big of strides. If that's not your problem, try different shoes.

[ITSTOCK]

Also, you just switched to a nice track. Give it time if your shins aren't hurting too bad. The muscles will eventually build up, as running on uneven/hard surfaces kill shins.

[antlip]

I take nice short strides because I read online it will help the shine splits. Part of the reason my time is low 11s. When I get done my 1.5 miles I am sweaty but not out of breath at all. I run 2 miles and I am still breathing out of my nose not gasping for air. I have been on the track for just over a month. I write down all my times to track progress. I also only run every other day. I thought I would give it a day between to rest up my shins.

[ITSTOCK]

What kind of shoes do you have? I used to get bad shin splints with my crappy nike shox.

[97TurboDSM]

my dad runs a lot and has run a marathon and is planning to run another one, with that said; the right shoe is key to running long distances and believe it or not, a lot of the name brand shoes that everyone wears aka. nike, adidas, etc are terrible for running long distances. go to a specialty running store and try on some shoes there, i'm sure you might not recognize the brands but dont let that fool you, they are great shoes that will help immensely. good luck with your training.

[Signatus230]

For food, I would suggest 5-6 small light meals a day, with salad, chicken, basically light food. If the main goal is to lose weight or just get rid of the pounds to build up muscle, then go with the meals. As far as I know, it helps with the insulin (too lazy to spell) shock, rather then eating 3 major meals a day. As for the running part and shin splints, running on hard surfaces can get to you after a while, best advice is to just keep at it, and if it feels like you are pushing yourself to hard then just take a break, its not like you will suddenly be back to 170 pounds if you take a day or two off... lol.

Good luck with it! I wish I had the time + devotion to do this everyday... haha.

[antlip]

Thanks for the replies. I have rebok (spelling) now. I started with old adidas and after a few days bought new balance shoes. My adidas were old and beat to death. My new balance I think is what started the pain in my leg. So I went with rebok. They felt better on my feet. Dont get me wrong I paid 70$ for the new balance on sale I didnt buy the cheap 30$ pair. I also did buy the highest pair at 120$. The 120$ hurt and was too tight around my toes. If anyone could direct me to these shoes stores with the good running shoes and the people that can fit me properly I would appreciate it big time.

Im not eating healthier to loose weight. That was an added bonus to running and the gym. I figured eating healthier food would = better runs. Well I am going on a limb here and saying that if you eat your normal diet you run better rather than all healthy food. Loosing 15 pounds helped im sure. I eat all day long and putting the weight back on wont matter.

[97TurboDSM]

the store i would recommend it theres one around is called Inside Track. I did a quick search on google for a website of their's but didnt find one. I'm not sure if they have other stores in PA, let alone Jersey. I would look in the yellow pages for some sort of running specialty store and just check out different ones and talk to as many people as you can to see who can help you the most.

[SovXietday]

Don't lean forward when you run, good posture no slouching that kind of thing. It will help immensely with the shin splints before you go spend more money on shoes.

Eat a well balanced diet. You need good carbs and proteins just like you would if you were lifting.

I run ~3miles a day, I don't really time myself though.

[blu4door]

When I run I eat pasta before hand. It takes your body longer to burn complex carbohydrates and will give you more energy for a longer period of time. But a mile and a half isn't that long.

The only way to cure your shin splints is with rest. Stop running, and start walking. I made the mistake of running through the pain, but I would pay for it severely. It got to the point that I couldn't run anymore, and just walking would hurt for a day or two afterwards. I would play about 2 to 3 innings of softball, and would have to sit the bench the rest of the game because I couldn't stand on it anymore. I finally took a couple of months off and didn't do any sort of running, jumping, strenious leg excersizes. After that I started by walking on grass, and worked them harder and harder till I could run again. I am completely over it now, but I make sure to take it easy after a long break, and slowly work back to full out speed. Here is a good article explaining shin splints.

http://sportsmedicine.about.com/cs/l...ies/a/leg2.htm

[jspek]

i used to run track in highschool. and i used to run up to the point i started smoking. i kept it short, like 1-2 miles at a fast pace. i never liked doing anything longer (sprinter). if i can get back into it i can def quit smoking haha. but hearing you guys running 1.5 miles in 11 mins is shocking. i never had it easy like that.

[blu4door]

Originally Posted by jspek

i used to run track in highschool. and i used to run up to the point i started smoking. i kept it short, like 1-2 miles at a fast pace. i never liked doing anything longer (sprinter). if i can get back into it i can def quit smoking haha. but hearing you guys running 1.5 miles in 11 mins is shocking. i never had it easy like that.

11 minutes is kinda slow for 1.5 miles. Generaly speaking

[jspek]

i know. hell for a warm up we had to run 1.5 miles under 7 min.

[antlip]

Yea 1.5 miles in 11 mins isnt fast. For a real runner its slow. For the avg person sitting at home playing ps3 all day its fast. I have been running for just over 2 months now. I havent run a mile since my senior year in high school. It has been 5 years since I ran a mile, well its been 5 years since I ran any distance other than a short burst. I personally never liked running. My body just hates running. I have met some people that enjoy running and can do it like their a machine. That person isnt me. From day 1 I was about to pass out after a mile. I was breathing really hard and wanted to pass out. Now 2 months later im running 1.5 miles in 11 mins and 2 miles in 16 mins.

For someone training to get up to 3 or 4 miles like I am. What should be the routine for running? Everyday? Every other day?

[antlip]

Originally Posted by jspek

i know. hell for a warm up we had to run 1.5 miles under 7 min.

That pace is insane. That would equal 12.85 miles per hour. Thats pretty much the Avgerage persons sprint. Your only 1:30 off record pace.

The world record for running a mile is ~0:03:43.13 or ~20 miles per hour.
The world record for running a marathon (26.2 miles) is ~2:05.38 or ~12.5 mph.

[blu4door]

Originally Posted by jspek

i know. hell for a warm up we had to run 1.5 miles under 7 min.

Yeah, thats way to fast for me.

[blu4door]

Originally Posted by antlip

Yea 1.5 miles in 11 mins isnt fast. For a real runner its slow. For the avg person sitting at home playing ps3 all day its fast. I have been running for just over 2 months now. I havent run a mile since my senior year in high school. It has been 5 years since I ran a mile, well its been 5 years since I ran any distance other than a short burst. I personally never liked running. My body just hates running. I have met some people that enjoy running and can do it like their a machine. That person isnt me. From day 1 I was about to pass out after a mile. I was breathing really hard and wanted to pass out. Now 2 months later im running 1.5 miles in 11 mins and 2 miles in 16 mins.

For someone training to get up to 3 or 4 miles like I am. What should be the routine for running? Everyday? Every other day?

No, I meant no offense to you. Thats why I said generaly speaking. For someone who isn't used to running all the time your times are just fine.

Theres no harm in running everyday as long as your body can take it. I have some friends that train for marathons, who run 8 to 10 miles a day. As much as I would like to, I can't do that. When I ran everyday, I only weighed 150lbs. For a long time, I stopped running and got into bulking up at the gym. Now I am up to about 215, so I am slow as hell. I am thinking about buying a road bike and riding about 10 miles or so a day and try to slim back down so I can get into running again. I kinda miss it.

[antlip]

Originally Posted by blu4door

No, I meant no offense to you. Thats why I said generaly speaking. For someone who isn't used to running all the time your times are just fine.

Theres no harm in running everyday as long as your body can take it. I have some friends that train for marathons, who run 8 to 10 miles a day. As much as I would like to, I can't do that. When I ran everyday, I only weighed 150lbs. For a long time, I stopped running and got into bulking up at the gym. Now I am up to about 215, so I am slow as hell. I am thinking about buying a road bike and riding about 10 miles or so a day and try to slim back down so I can get into running again. I kinda miss it.

That wasnt directed at anyone or was I trying to be rude. I was just trying to draw a picture of where Im coming from. Sorry for the confusion. Does a bike have any positive affects on running distances? I also heard that doing so could help. Thanks for all the feedback so far guys.

[ITSTOCK]

1.5 miles in under 7 minutes as a warm-up??? I don't know if I'm buying that one....

Antlip, any cardio that you will do for an extended amount of time will help you be less tired. However, it's not going to build up the muscle, so your times aren't going to improve all that much, generally speaking. Biking is a great way to build up endurance, and give your shins a break though.