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OWENthatsmyname · 06-24-2005, 11:23 PM

EcuTek or Accessport?

easy question. hahaha. i dont plan on going very far. just turboback exhaust, headers, uppipe, i/c hoses, turbo inlet hose.

and then in the far future(like a year) a turbo upgrade and a FMIC.

so which one would u choose?

im looking for reliability, not too worried about how fast but want something faster u no.

piker28 · 06-25-2005, 12:14 AM

id go Ecutek

i mean in the future you will not be able to use an accesport with a bigger turbo and front mount

plus ive heard of accesports maps leaning out the fuel a little to much for safety sides

WRX27 · 06-25-2005, 12:20 AM

I personally like the accessport. I dont have one but i know 2 people who do and they love it. I want to get one soon. Utec is best if you are going to heavily mod car and/or want the easiest tuning capibilities.

joe tom · 06-25-2005, 01:20 AM

i'm soon getting an access port, isn't the eutech is really detailed? i like the idea of loading maps, and rollin out.

272sWrx · 06-25-2005, 03:00 AM

you can do that on a utec. i only think they have maps for the 34/30.

wgknestrick · 06-25-2005, 09:20 AM

I wouldn't do either if you are planning a turbo upgrade because you will have to get retuned and (B) there aren't really that many good ecutek tuners in the area. Utec is a different story and much easier to get support for. In the end, you need EM that people WILL support and can be tuned when you upgrade your setup. Just don't corner yourself in the future with your EM, because it is the most important and critical mod you can buy besides the turbo.

I'm not a huge fan of the accessport at all because the tunes on them aren't all that great.

OWENthatsmyname · 06-25-2005, 03:25 PM

theres a good ecutek tuner up in Gap at xotic motorsports. 225whp with just uppipe. 650 for tune and license

Smokescreen · 06-29-2005, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GC8drifter86

theres a good ecutek tuner up in Gap at xotic motorsports. 225whp with just uppipe. 650 for tune and license

I dynoed my car there in March. A Cobb Stg2 put down around 230whp. They are good people. I say utec and ask them to tune it. They want too much for an uppipe install..

OWENthatsmyname · 06-29-2005, 03:12 PM

what mods on your AP stg 2? and how is 350 too much for uppippe install with parts and labor. thats pretty good.

TehWagon · 06-29-2005, 04:18 PM

ok - dumb moment here- is ecutek a third type of em? seems like in this thread people are using utec and 'ectuek' interchangeably... am i missing something?

OWENthatsmyname · 06-29-2005, 04:33 PM

theres UTEC, Accessport, EcuTek, Hydra.......... motec........ umm....... yea... thats all i can remeber.

the Utec, EcuTek and hydra are dyno tunable or street tunable. the hydra is expensive, hard to find a good tuner but ultimately the best.

Accessport is plug and play or u can get the street tuner later and tune it.

Smokescreen · 07-01-2005, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GC8drifter86

what mods on your AP stg 2? and how is 350 too much for uppippe install with parts and labor. that’s pretty good.

It's not my AP 2, it was someone else that was there. I have PDE pipes and an Evo2. Uppipe, wideband, and Utec are ready to go in. PDE downpipe = no CEL. It was just a full AP 2- full exhaust, uppipe, and AP. $350? I need to ask them again because they quoted me a higher price..that is pretty good. My bad.

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Originally Posted by CarWidow

ok - dumb moment here- is ecutek a third type of em? seems like in this thread people are using utec and 'ectuek' interchangeably... am i missing something?

Ecutek is basically a reflash of your stock ecu. It needs to be licensed or installed by a licensed shop or something. So, $100 reflash + $550 tune & license (or something like that). I said utec because he plans on upgrading his turbo and needs the em to be alittle more flexible than AP or an Ecutek.

Drifter86, Have you decided on a turbo yet? Utec has a tuner out too. I think Bryan has it in his car.

**TROLL** · 07-01-2005, 10:00 AM

i think youve got it figured out but i just want to clarify what each of these EMS's are about...

Cobb Accessport: A user-end reflash with a handful of off the shelf maps for the most popular mods. This reflashes the ECU completely but is not user tuneable unless you splurge for the new AccessTuner ($400) which allows you to custom tune your maps with a laptop. The AP goes for $600 new and about $500 used. There are two different versions... one for 02-03, and one for 04 (and i think 05?). Their maps make impressive numbers considering that they are off the shelf and very easy to flash, but nothing beats a custom tune done by an expert.

UTEC: A user-end tuneable piggyback system. You can log using a laptop and you can go in and tune your fuel, timing, and boost maps without any other accessories (besides a laptop). It comes with off the shelf base maps, but it really needs some custom tuning to get the most out of it. If you get a UTEC i highly recommend that you have it professionally tuned, but it can also be easily tweaked by the user. They run about $950 new these days i think and about $700 used.

EcuTek: A reflash that can only be done by a licensed tuner. With this you would go to a shop with a license to tune Ecuteks and a dyno, and have a custom tune done... when they get it just right they'll flash the map onto your ECU and voila. I hear great things about it but if you change your setup a lot its probably not the best option since you'd have to make multiple trips to a professional tuner. Xotic has this setup for $650 including the license and a custom tune.

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And i have the TurboXS Tuner, but it is nothing more than a wideband. It interfaces seamlessly with the UTEC but does nothing more than give me a wideband AFR to help tune with.

bryan

TehWagon · 07-01-2005, 10:07 AM

just to add on to bryan's post- i am seeing utec's for 600-650. i got mine for 618 shipped - not too shabby and well worth it as compared to an ap, imo.

dancemf666 · 07-01-2005, 10:50 AM

Cobb Accessport and StreetTuner.

OWENthatsmyname · 07-01-2005, 01:46 PM

it looks like im gonna go with ecutek.

later on i would like to get a twin scroll set up hahha VF39. but ill prolly end up with a VF34, i want something still daily drivable.

id rather get a specific tune i think so i can extract the most horsepower out of it. i dunno if ill do the 1000 uppipe install and parts+ecutek+tune or just the 650 ecutek install and tune.

I gotta start piecing things together.

anyone wanna help me with an uppipe install if i decide to do it myself? id like to have someone who knows what they are doing there. haha.

TehWagon · 07-01-2005, 01:55 PM

i think there are a couple guys here who could help u out with that and do regular 'install parties' but i'll let them chime in on that one...
is it 650 for the ecutek r eflash each time you change something and want the tune modified?

Smokescreen · 07-04-2005, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GC8drifter86

anyone wanna help me with an uppipe install if i decide to do it myself? id like to have someone who knows what they are doing there. haha.

Let me know if you do it yourself. I want to get mine done. I pay in pizza and beer for anyone that cares. I'll include some homemade eternal gratitude for free.

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Originally Posted by CarWidow

is it 650 for the ecutek r eflash each time you change something and want the tune modified?

Probably because the parameters have changed. I found my utec for 700 w/o remote switch on clubwrx. Of course, the week after someone was selling one for 600 w/ the switch...

the mike · 07-04-2005, 01:55 PM

I think she bought the 600 dollar one. ;)

B!tch.

TehWagon · 07-04-2005, 02:07 PM

HEY!

yea it was probably me. although i did talk him down quite a bit - that wasn't the original asking price... ;)

06-24-2005, 11:23 PM	#1
OWENthatsmyname Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: west chester Member #55 My Ride: . iTrader: (0)	EcuTek or Accessport? EcuTek or Accessport? easy question. hahaha. i dont plan on going very far. just turboback exhaust, headers, uppipe, i/c hoses, turbo inlet hose. and then in the far future(like a year) a turbo upgrade and a FMIC. so which one would u choose? im looking for reliability, not too worried about how fast but want something faster u no. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-25-2005, 03:00 AM	#5
272sWrx Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: D-town Member #281 iTrader: (0)	you can do that on a utec. i only think they have maps for the 34/30. __________________ 03 silver wrx-Sold 2013 Genesis Coupe 6spd(gran premio gray) SFR tuned.

06-25-2005, 03:25 PM	#7
OWENthatsmyname Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: west chester Member #55 My Ride: . iTrader: (0)	theres a good ecutek tuner up in Gap at xotic motorsports. 225whp with just uppipe. 650 for tune and license __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-29-2005, 03:12 PM	#9
OWENthatsmyname Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: west chester Member #55 My Ride: . iTrader: (0)	what mods on your AP stg 2? and how is 350 too much for uppippe install with parts and labor. thats pretty good. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-29-2005, 04:33 PM	#11
OWENthatsmyname Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: west chester Member #55 My Ride: . iTrader: (0)	theres UTEC, Accessport, EcuTek, Hydra.......... motec........ umm....... yea... thats all i can remeber. the Utec, EcuTek and hydra are dyno tunable or street tunable. the hydra is expensive, hard to find a good tuner but ultimately the best. Accessport is plug and play or u can get the street tuner later and tune it. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-25-2005, 12:14 AM	#2
piker28 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Dec 2004 Member #33 iTrader: (0)	id go Ecutek i mean in the future you will not be able to use an accesport with a bigger turbo and front mount plus ive heard of accesports maps leaning out the fuel a little to much for safety sides

06-25-2005, 12:20 AM	#3
WRX27 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Work Member #363 My Ride: 2004 Subaru WRX Sedan iTrader: (0)	I personally like the accessport. I dont have one but i know 2 people who do and they love it. I want to get one soon. Utec is best if you are going to heavily mod car and/or want the easiest tuning capibilities.

06-25-2005, 01:20 AM	#4
joe tom Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Newtown Member #287 My Ride: 2010 Acura TSX iTrader: (1)	i'm soon getting an access port, isn't the eutech is really detailed? i like the idea of loading maps, and rollin out.

07-01-2005, 10:50 AM	#15
dancemf666 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tristate Member #313 iTrader: (1)	Cobb Accessport and StreetTuner.

07-01-2005, 01:46 PM	#16
OWENthatsmyname Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: west chester Member #55 My Ride: . iTrader: (0)	it looks like im gonna go with ecutek. later on i would like to get a twin scroll set up hahha VF39. but ill prolly end up with a VF34, i want something still daily drivable. id rather get a specific tune i think so i can extract the most horsepower out of it. i dunno if ill do the 1000 uppipe install and parts+ecutek+tune or just the 650 ecutek install and tune. I gotta start piecing things together. anyone wanna help me with an uppipe install if i decide to do it myself? id like to have someone who knows what they are doing there. haha. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-04-2005, 01:55 PM	#19
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