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Sincere · 03-01-2007, 10:15 AM

www.semasan.com

I signed up at SEMA last year. It's good stuff, even if you don't sign up. Just take a good look at it. Lots of Laws that we should all be aware of to support or fight.

PS. This should be sticky..

teh DIRT · 03-01-2007, 10:19 AM

dont think it needs a sticky BUT here is one you and I should be concerned with.

Quote:

Pennsylvania Reintroduces Bill to Ban the Use of
Aftermarket Exhaust Systems
Legislation (H.B. 1330) that would effectively prohibit the use of exhaust systems other than a “factory-installed muffler” or a “muffler meeting factory specifications” has been reintroduced in the Pennsylvania State House of Representatives by Representative Michael K. Hanna (Phone: 717/772-2283, Fax: 717/787-4137). The bill has been referred to the House Transportation Committee.

Contact Rep. Hanna and Members of the Pennsylvania House Transportation Committee (List Below) Immediately to Request Their Opposition to H.B. 1330

H.B. 1330 ignores the fact that aftermarket exhaust systems are designed to make vehicles run more efficiently without increasing emissions.

H.B. 1330 fails to recognize that aftermarket exhaust systems offer increased performance and utility.

H.B. 1330 would make it nearly impossible for hobbyists to replace factory exhaust systems with more durable, better performing options.

H.B. 1330 perpetuates the erroneous assumption that enthusiasts who equip their vehicles with modified exhaust systems are involved in illegal street racing.

Call or Fax the members of the House Transportation Committee in Harrisburg (See List Below) today to oppose this legislation. This bill unfairly tramples on the rights of vehicle enthusiasts in Pennsylvania.

House Transportation Committee

Hon. Richard Allen Geist, Chairman
(717) 787-6419
Fax: (717) 772-5142

Hon. Kate Harper
(717) 787-2801
Fax: (717) 787-2022

Hon. John R. Evans
(717) 772-9940
Fax: (717) 772-7099

Hon. John A. Maher
(717) 783-1522
Fax: (717) 783-8332

Hon. Ronald S. Marsico
(717) 783-2014
Fax: (717) 705-2010

Hon. Rod E. Wilt
(717) 783-5008
Fax: (717) 705-1948

Hon. Roy E. Baldwin
(717) 787-1776
Fax: (717) 772-9869

Hon. Teresa Forcier
(717) 787-2353
Fax: (717) 787-0860

Hon. Dick Lee Hess
(717) 787-7076
Fax: (717) 705-1835

Hon. Eugene F. McGill
(717) 783-7179
Fax: (717) 783-3899

Hon. Stanley E. Saylor
(717) 783-6426
Fax: (717) 705-1849

Hon. Jess M. Stairs
(717) 783-9311
Fax: (717) 787-0859

Hon. Katharine M. Watson
(717) 787-5452
Fax: (717) 783-8934

Hon. Keith R. McCall
(717) 783-1375
Fax: (717) 772-1231

Hon. Kenneth W. Ruffing
(717) 787-4891
Fax: (717)787-0861

Hon. Anthony J. Melio
(717) 787-3557
Fax: (717) 772-2943

Hon. Joseph A. Petrarca
(717) 787-5142
Fax: (717) 705-2014

Hon. Lawrence Roberts
(717) 783-1359
Fax: (717) 705-2088

Hon. Dante Santoni, Jr.
(717) 783-3290
Fax: (717) 772-2943

Hon. LeAnna M. Washington
(717) 783-2175
Fax: (717) 783-8724

Hon. Frank Dermody
(717) 787-3566
Fax: (717) 787-8060

Hon. Edward P. Wojnaroski, Sr.
(717) 787-7524
Fax: (717) 787-0861

Hon. Matthew Good
(717) 783-6433
Fax: (717) 772-9958

Hon. Mario M. Scavello
(717) 787-7732
Fax: (717) 705-1889

Hon. P. Michael Sturla
(717) 787-3555
Fax: (717) 787-0861

Hon. Michael Gerber
(717) 787-9475
Fax: (717) 772-2284

poolmike · 03-01-2007, 10:20 AM

Great link there, Matt.

The most offensive laws are the inoperable vehicle laws on PRIVATE property.

Everyone should read those links.

Sincere · 03-01-2007, 10:51 AM

Don't think it needs a sticky? What about when it fall off of page 1 and the they pass an exhaust law and it all your fault.

DropTopChevy · 03-01-2007, 11:13 AM

Yeah I thought we could go to 35 tint on back side windows here in pa? The excel doc. says 70?

teh DIRT · 03-01-2007, 11:16 AM

i think thats a confusion of terms. 70% light blockage is 30% light transmission. its around there I think.

DropTopChevy · 03-01-2007, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teh DIRT

i think thats a confusion of terms. 70% light blockage is 30% light transmission. its around there I think.

Aaaahh thanx pete.

james_ls · 03-01-2007, 11:24 AM

Is it just me or are some of them worded VERY tricky??

poolmike · 03-01-2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by james_ls

Is it just me or are some of them worded VERY tricky??

Every law is worded that way.

Gorilla Unit 33 · 03-01-2007, 12:35 PM

x2^

Issue: Equipment
Bill: HB 1760 / HB 727
Status: Introduced / Amended
Location: House Transportation
Description: Prohibits the use of nitrous oxide systems on roadways. Vehicles equipped with nitrous oxide systems may operate on roadways provided all canisters are removed from the vehicle. Vehicles going to or from a race track may operate with the canisters provided that the lines are disconnected from the engine.
Author: Representative Solobay
Intro Date: 29-Jun-05
Bill Type: Two Year Bill from 2005

this one sounds tempting but would i still need a commercial or some sort of special liscense to have it in my car?

CleanNeon98 · 03-01-2007, 01:15 PM

Wonder if the exhaust law completely bans aftermarket systems, or just to a certain Decibal limit like before.

sisforsurfing · 03-01-2007, 01:27 PM

^ It would ban all aftermarket exhaust systems not to factory specification. Listed for Massachusetts and Hawaii, but if it passes I wouldn't be surprised to see it in more states. I think it's ridiculous.

The one pool mike mentions is the worst though. Giving police the right to judge if a vehicle should be disposed of when it's on PRIVATE property is outrageous. Are they going to take my model cars, too? Or just the Fiat?

Buster · 03-01-2007, 01:37 PM

Looks like I may Be purchasing an SPT exhaust soon. Anyone got a GENOME hanging out haha. uck the laws.

dt98gsr · 03-01-2007, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sisforsurfing

^ It would ban all aftermarket exhaust systems not to factory specification. Listed for Massachusetts and Hawaii, but if it passes I wouldn't be surprised to see it in more states. I think it's ridiculous.

The one pool mike mentions is the worst though. Giving police the right to judge if a vehicle should be disposed of when it's on PRIVATE property is outrageous. Are they going to take my model cars, too? Or just the Fiat?

Huh, I live in Jersey not PA so I'm wodering if Jersey is working a on passing a similar exahust bill?

As far as the bill allowing police the right to judge if a vehicle should be disposed of when its on private property, thats crazy.

About a couple of weeks ago, a Lawrenceville police officer walked into my work and asked who's truck was parked out in front of the store with a for sale sign on it. It happened to be one of my co-workers who is trying to sell it and has been parking it out front occasionally on the side of of our building that sits on a main road. My co-worker said "It's mine, why?" and he said "Oh, ok. We have been having problems with people parking stolen cars with for sale signs on private property recently" and he just walked out. No one called him, I guess he was just looking for something to do, but his reasoning made absolutely no sense to me.

Evo8kid · 03-01-2007, 02:26 PM

alot of these laws are inefective, they are old. a bill passed in march of 2005, lasts for two years, that means there are up in a couple of weeks

Buster · 03-01-2007, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evo8kid

alot of these laws are inefective, they are old. a bill passed in march of 2005, lasts for two years, that means there are up in a couple of weeks

I hope thats the case because my car is really loud and I dont want another exhaust.

drew · 03-01-2007, 02:33 PM

that bill has been reintroduced by the same dickass a couple times i think

Evo8kid · 03-01-2007, 02:34 PM

yea i asked my law teacher, and he told me i couldnt read good cause it says:
Issue: Exhaust Noise/ muffler
Bill: HB 1330
Status: Introduced
Location:
Description: Amends exhaust law to require motor vehicles to be equipped with a muffler meeting factory specifications and in compliance with maximum noise levels permitted under current law.
Author: Representative Hanna
Intro Date: 12-Apr-05
Bill Type: Two Year Bill from 2005

..which means its inefective 12-APR-07, then they have to reimpose it all over again, based on its effectiveness during those 2 years. If it didnt help with "illegal street racing" and such, they probably wont pass it again, becuase its not hurting anybody etc etc..

tjf · 03-01-2007, 02:37 PM

what if it gets passed and you have an aftermarket exhaust first? Would that mean everyone needs to go take their exhaust off?

Evo8kid · 03-01-2007, 02:39 PM

probably, i doubt everyone that has an aftermarket exhaust will be grandfathered, because there is no way to proove that you had it before the law was passed. and once it gets passed, everyone would try to say they had there exhaust before

03-01-2007, 10:15 AM	#1
Sincere Tri-State Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Stay out of my garage! Member #248 iTrader: (5)	NEW Car Laws... READ!!! www.semasan.com I signed up at SEMA last year. It's good stuff, even if you don't sign up. Just take a good look at it. Lots of Laws that we should all be aware of to support or fight. PS. This should be sticky.. __________________ "I'm going to put my nutsack on your..." To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-01-2007, 10:20 AM	#3
poolmike Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Richboro Member #543 My Ride: '68 Kaiser M715/ '37 Ford truck/'47 Dodge truck iTrader: (0)	Great link there, Matt. The most offensive laws are the inoperable vehicle laws on PRIVATE property. Everyone should read those links. __________________ 2012 Honda Accord Touring 1968 Kaiser M715 FrankenJeep 1947 Dodge 1.5 Ton Resto-mod 1937 Ford pick-up 1950 Crosley Farm-o-Road

03-01-2007, 10:51 AM	#4
Sincere Tri-State Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Stay out of my garage! Member #248 iTrader: (5)	Don't think it needs a sticky? What about when it fall off of page 1 and the they pass an exhaust law and it all your fault. __________________ "I'm going to put my nutsack on your..." To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-01-2007, 11:13 AM	#5
DropTopChevy Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In a big house Member #242 My Ride: 2002 2.8 30V V6 iTrader: (6)	Yeah I thought we could go to 35 tint on back side windows here in pa? The excel doc. says 70? __________________ The great thing about being an architect is that you can walk into your dreams. - Harold E. Wagoner, 1986

03-01-2007, 11:24 AM	#8
james_ls TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Warrington Member #1614 My Ride: 1998 Acura Integra LS//VTEC iTrader: (0)	Is it just me or are some of them worded VERY tricky?? __________________ *Heller Dope* - When the ** is doper than Hellen Keller; it's Heller Dope To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. BUY MY STUFF!** To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-01-2007, 12:35 PM	#10
Gorilla Unit 33 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Where do you live? Member #532 My Ride: Fly Mosca II w/pegs LOLZ iTrader: (7)	x2^ Issue: Equipment Bill: HB 1760 / HB 727 Status: Introduced / Amended Location: House Transportation Description: Prohibits the use of nitrous oxide systems on roadways. Vehicles equipped with nitrous oxide systems may operate on roadways provided all canisters are removed from the vehicle. Vehicles going to or from a race track may operate with the canisters provided that the lines are disconnected from the engine. Author: Representative Solobay Intro Date: 29-Jun-05 Bill Type: Two Year Bill from 2005 this one sounds tempting but would i still need a commercial or some sort of special liscense to have it in my car? __________________ find me here: gorillaunit33.wordpress.com

03-01-2007, 01:15 PM	#11
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Wonder if the exhaust law completely bans aftermarket systems, or just to a certain Decibal limit like before. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

03-01-2007, 01:27 PM	#12
sisforsurfing Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Member #267 My Ride: 2003 WRX wagon iTrader: (2)	^ It would ban all aftermarket exhaust systems not to factory specification. Listed for Massachusetts and Hawaii, but if it passes I wouldn't be surprised to see it in more states. I think it's ridiculous. The one pool mike mentions is the worst though. Giving police the right to judge if a vehicle should be disposed of when it's on PRIVATE property is outrageous. Are they going to take my model cars, too? Or just the Fiat? __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.*

03-01-2007, 01:37 PM	#13
Buster TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Holland Pa Member #449 My Ride: 2008 Mustang GT/CS iTrader: (3)	Looks like I may Be purchasing an SPT exhaust soon. Anyone got a GENOME hanging out haha. uck the laws. __________________ III To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-01-2007, 02:26 PM	#15
Evo8kid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newtown, PA Member #1631 My Ride: contributes towards Global warming iTrader: (0)	alot of these laws are inefective, they are old. a bill passed in march of 2005, lasts for two years, that means there are up in a couple of weeks __________________ TurboTagTeam is my crew chief 1996 Nissan 240sx- To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 6.7L Turbo Diesel 2008 Audi RS4- 420 HP 4.2L V8 2004 Honda CBR600RR

03-01-2007, 02:33 PM	#17
drew Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Broomall, PA Member #2617 My Ride: fuzion & exploder iTrader: (8)	that bill has been reintroduced by the same dickass a couple times i think __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-01-2007, 02:34 PM	#18
Evo8kid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newtown, PA Member #1631 My Ride: contributes towards Global warming iTrader: (0)	yea i asked my law teacher, and he told me i couldnt read good cause it says: Issue: Exhaust Noise/ muffler Bill: HB 1330 Status: Introduced Location: Description: Amends exhaust law to require motor vehicles to be equipped with a muffler meeting factory specifications and in compliance with maximum noise levels permitted under current law. Author: Representative Hanna Intro Date: 12-Apr-05 Bill Type: Two Year Bill from 2005 ..which means its inefective 12-APR-07, then they have to reimpose it all over again, based on its effectiveness during those 2 years. If it didnt help with "illegal street racing" and such, they probably wont pass it again, becuase its not hurting anybody etc etc.. __________________ TurboTagTeam is my crew chief 1996 Nissan 240sx- To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 6.7L Turbo Diesel 2008 Audi RS4- 420 HP 4.2L V8 2004 Honda CBR600RR

03-01-2007, 02:37 PM	#19
tjf Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Member #2754 iTrader: (1)	what if it gets passed and you have an aftermarket exhaust first? Would that mean everyone needs to go take their exhaust off?

03-01-2007, 02:39 PM	#20
Evo8kid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Newtown, PA Member #1631 My Ride: contributes towards Global warming iTrader: (0)	probably, i doubt everyone that has an aftermarket exhaust will be grandfathered, because there is no way to proove that you had it before the law was passed. and once it gets passed, everyone would try to say they had there exhaust before __________________ TurboTagTeam is my crew chief 1996 Nissan 240sx- To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 2010 Dodge Ram 2500 6.7L Turbo Diesel 2008 Audi RS4- 420 HP 4.2L V8 2004 Honda CBR600RR

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