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smoger · 02-05-2007, 03:56 PM

well i got sick of having no wireless connectivity on my macbook so i set out to find out if anyone was able to fix the issue. i found that downgrading the kernal extension for the wireless card is listed as a fix(scratch that, workaround) to the problem.

apparantly it can also cause your computer to not boot at all.

thanks again apple. 3 months since this widespread problem popped up and still no fix. i really see why your stuff is worth 2x the cost of pc's

james_ls · 02-05-2007, 03:58 PM

What was the issue...what did you do...and what happened?

I'm still fairly MAC savvy.

smoger · 02-05-2007, 04:01 PM

trust me i know all about macs, and i already recovered from not being able to boot. im just pissed because this now 5 month old computer has not been able to connect wirelessly for the past 3 months due to a "security update"(combined with OSX10.4.8 Intel) .

i guess it IS secure if it can't connect to anything. they got me there.

Broken5hift · 02-05-2007, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoger

i guess it IS secure if it can't connect to anything. they got me there.

LMFAO. are you trying to connect to an apple iport?

smoger · 02-05-2007, 04:11 PM

cant connect to ANY wireless. sometimes i can get a dialup speed connection for a couple minutes before it drops, nothing more.

in fact it only sees the available networks for a matter of about 20 seconds when airport is first turned on, then they become invisible to the computer. my best chance at getting a connection is a fresh reboot when i want to connect.. but it still almost never works.

grimm · 02-05-2007, 04:13 PM

should have figured once mac went windows it's internet security would crap out. None the less that is the one bonus to PC's. it may have frequent problems, but nothing a restore point can't fix ;) haha..
sorry man.

Broken5hift · 02-05-2007, 04:18 PM

my dad had this same issue not too long ago, he was trying to connect wirelessly through the apple airport and either he would be dropped immediately or he couldnt find any signal. i'll ask him how he solved the issue, might help you figure out what to do?

smoger · 02-05-2007, 04:35 PM

well this is weird.. i reverted back to the original faulty .kext, and instantly got a connection to a wireless network somewhere in this building when i rebooted(albeit only 2 bars).

im starting to think that it may simply be that the security update borks the permissions of the kext just enough that it doesnt function right, but not bad enough to prevent the system from booting.

i'll see what happens when i get home and try to hop onto my network.

will post updates because i know this is a common problem

grimm: this has nothing to do with windows whatsoever.. why even bring it up? its simply a poorly programmed security fix that apple released a few months ago. don't drag microsoft into it if you don't know what you're talking about

**Ender81** · 02-05-2007, 05:28 PM

I'm convinced your just jinxed, my gf goes to Kutztown and between her and her friends I know about 30 people with macs and none of them have the issues you do. I think they just don't like you lol (as for twice the price of a pc maybe you mean a homemade one because I was pricing a similar performing Dell the otehr day and it was 500 more).

PotenzaSub · 02-05-2007, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james_ls

What was the issue...what did you do...and what happened?

I'm still fairly MAC savvy.

The issue is that he got a Mac. PWNED!

Macs suck. Don't be stupid. Run Windows!

LS2GTO · 02-05-2007, 06:20 PM

I refuse to use a mac...have never owned one and never will. You wonder why software is so much more money for them (and a lot less pirating), is because it is a lot tougher to write the programs. Adobe ports their stuff easily but I don't find it that simple.

Kerplunk105 · 02-05-2007, 06:42 PM

I have a mac and have never had a single problem.

I am curious though which mac you have? I am getting ready to buy another one and dont wanna get that one....lol

smoger · 02-05-2007, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ender81

I'm convinced your just jinxed, my gf goes to Kutztown and between her and her friends I know about 30 people with macs and none of them have the issues you do. I think they just don't like you lol (as for twice the price of a pc maybe you mean a homemade one because I was pricing a similar performing Dell the otehr day and it was 500 more).

my whole office is macs, and currently we have 42 eMacs.. 37 of which include a faulty capacitor that will eventually need to be replaced on each and every one. i don't think it's just me.

as for the dell/apple price comparison,.. which apple were you comparing to? i find it hard to believe a dell would be 500 more unless it was significantly overpowered compared to the apple.

smoger · 02-05-2007, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kerplunk105

I have a mac and have never had a single problem.

I am curious though which mac you have? I am getting ready to buy another one and dont wanna get that one....lol

macbook.

check out appledefects.com . they do a pretty good job of documenting known problems.

smoger · 02-05-2007, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PotenzaSub

The issue is that he got a Mac. PWNED!

Macs suck. Don't be stupid. Run Windows!

my boss bought this one so i didnt have a choice. i would never spend a dollar on a mac

S4toSTI · 02-05-2007, 07:59 PM

Only you have problems lolol.

smoger · 02-05-2007, 10:02 PM

well its apparantly working now.

this is the apparant fix http://www.sas.upenn.edu/computing/w...kpro_help.html

although i dont think you even need to swap the file,.. just skip to the terminal entry to update the ownership of the file

Danronian · 02-05-2007, 10:05 PM

Wow, a mac related thread...not that it's much related but...

I have this iBook g3 w/ OS 10.1.2.8 on it, and I tried upgrading to the newest via a disc for a macbook, but it wouldnt do it. Does anyone have a "cheap" upgrade disc locally for me so I might be able to get a usb wireless network adapter for my laptop (b/c 10.1 doesn't support them). Thanks in advance. PM me if you've got a little help for me.

dickerdieter · 02-05-2007, 10:44 PM

mac laptops are trash nufsaid, of the 18 people i kno with mac laptops only 2 havent had problems, yet every person with another brand (prodominantly dells) which is about 50 if not more, including me,only 2 have had problems, my roommate dropped mine from about 5 feet only a tile floor, only broke off the corner and a few dead pixles, he also bought one of those $1700 imac desktop things, sure it looks trendy and sleek but the design is horrible, no fans or anything just a little slit on the top for ventalation, im guessing he will be having problems in no time, as compared to my $200 emachine that i got 3 years ago with almost the same computing power and i havent had a single problem yet

**Ender81** · 02-06-2007, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smoger

my whole office is macs

Enough said. As for the dell I was pricing quad core to quad core.

02-05-2007, 03:56 PM	#1
smoger Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: philly Member #64 iTrader: (1)	thanks again apple :( well i got sick of having no wireless connectivity on my macbook so i set out to find out if anyone was able to fix the issue. i found that downgrading the kernal extension for the wireless card is listed as a fix(scratch that, workaround) to the problem. apparantly it can also cause your computer to not boot at all. thanks again apple. 3 months since this widespread problem popped up and still no fix. i really see why your stuff is worth 2x the cost of pc's __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. , To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. \| 2000 Black Acura 3.2TL To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. .. all car enthusiasts are welcome

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smoger Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: philly Member #64 iTrader: (1)	trust me i know all about macs, and i already recovered from not being able to boot. im just pissed because this now 5 month old computer has not been able to connect wirelessly for the past 3 months due to a "security update"(combined with OSX10.4.8 Intel) . i guess it IS secure if it can't connect to anything. they got me there. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. , To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. \| 2000 Black Acura 3.2TL To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. .. all car enthusiasts are welcome

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smoger Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: philly Member #64 iTrader: (1)	cant connect to ANY wireless. sometimes i can get a dialup speed connection for a couple minutes before it drops, nothing more. in fact it only sees the available networks for a matter of about 20 seconds when airport is first turned on, then they become invisible to the computer. my best chance at getting a connection is a fresh reboot when i want to connect.. but it still almost never works. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. , To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. \| 2000 Black Acura 3.2TL To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. .. all car enthusiasts are welcome

02-05-2007, 04:35 PM	#8
smoger Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: philly Member #64 iTrader: (1)	well this is weird.. i reverted back to the original faulty .kext, and instantly got a connection to a wireless network somewhere in this building when i rebooted(albeit only 2 bars). im starting to think that it may simply be that the security update borks the permissions of the kext just enough that it doesnt function right, but not bad enough to prevent the system from booting. i'll see what happens when i get home and try to hop onto my network. will post updates because i know this is a common problem grimm: this has nothing to do with windows whatsoever.. why even bring it up? its simply a poorly programmed security fix that apple released a few months ago. don't drag microsoft into it if you don't know what you're talking about __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. , To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. \| 2000 Black Acura 3.2TL To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. .. all car enthusiasts are welcome Last edited by smoger; 02-05-2007 at 04:37 PM.

02-05-2007, 04:13 PM	#6
grimm Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Member #3058 iTrader: (2)	should have figured once mac went windows it's internet security would crap out. None the less that is the one bonus to PC's. it may have frequent problems, but nothing a restore point can't fix ;) haha.. sorry man.

02-05-2007, 04:18 PM	#7
Broken5hift Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Apr 2005 Member #397 My Ride: 08 Scion Xb & 06 TSX iTrader: (0)	my dad had this same issue not too long ago, he was trying to connect wirelessly through the apple airport and either he would be dropped immediately or he couldnt find any signal. i'll ask him how he solved the issue, might help you figure out what to do?

02-05-2007, 06:20 PM	#11
LS2GTO Tri-State Aficionado Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South Jersey Member #3274 iTrader: (0)	I refuse to use a mac...have never owned one and never will. You wonder why software is so much more money for them (and a lot less pirating), is because it is a lot tougher to write the programs. Adobe ports their stuff easily but I don't find it that simple.

02-05-2007, 06:42 PM	#12
Kerplunk105 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: Langhorne, PA Member #1967 My Ride: 2007 Subaru Impreza iTrader: (2)	I have a mac and have never had a single problem. I am curious though which mac you have? I am getting ready to buy another one and dont wanna get that one....lol __________________ ~Elizabeth~

02-05-2007, 10:02 PM	#17
smoger Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: philly Member #64 iTrader: (1)	well its apparantly working now. this is the apparant fix http://www.sas.upenn.edu/computing/w...kpro_help.html although i dont think you even need to swap the file,.. just skip to the terminal entry to update the ownership of the file __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. , To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. \| 2000 Black Acura 3.2TL To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. .. all car enthusiasts are welcome

02-05-2007, 10:05 PM	#18
Danronian Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boyertown Member #1826 My Ride: 1995 Honda Civic Vx, 1975 Malibu iTrader: (3)	Wow, a mac related thread...not that it's much related but... I have this iBook g3 w/ OS 10.1.2.8 on it, and I tried upgrading to the newest via a disc for a macbook, but it wouldnt do it. Does anyone have a "cheap" upgrade disc locally for me so I might be able to get a usb wireless network adapter for my laptop (b/c 10.1 doesn't support them). Thanks in advance. PM me if you've got a little help for me.

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