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spoolinSTi · 01-25-2007, 04:17 PM

hey guys

i have a 92 honda civic hatchback auto, it seems the timing is off somehow, i checked the crank pulley that mark matches the timing cover notch perfect. The cam gear was at TDC and the notch really didnt line up but i do have a pic.

The wires are fine, i tried pulling the dizzy and it turned fine with a very little noise when i turned it, as far as i can see the plugs look fine, pic s here

So if anyone can give some advice or something may be wrong let me know.Oh and heres and i diagram i used for the wire pug in

Thanks guys

tom

Modified by 94preluder3084 at 12:06 PM 1/25/2007

highmilehatch · 01-25-2007, 04:36 PM

Is the car not starting? Or is the car not running up to par? Are you talking about ignition timing or cam/crank timing? That first pic does no good. Is the "up" mark on the cam gear at the top, and the two hash marks on either side of the gear parallel to the timing cover? When the gear is in that position, the lone white mark on the crank pulley should be lined up with the pointer on the lower timing cover. That's how you know your at TDC. If your talking about ignition timing please verify. Also, your firing order may be off. Looking at the distributor from the passenger side fender it should go like this:

top (flat part of the dizzy)
3 4
1 2

spoolinSTi · 01-25-2007, 04:41 PM

im talking about all of them because the car wont start at all, it just boggs and pops but doesnt start at all. Thats what im trying to figure out whats going on. yes the marks were even with the head.

Loserkidwac · 01-25-2007, 04:43 PM

Well which motor do you have the notch on the bottom you took the pic for is for the D16 motors, you need to line up the lines on the sides of the cam shaft...so if they are in line with the head and the crank pulley is lined up then your cam timing is ok...dizzy timing is also different....

As Highmilehatch asked whats up with the car, not starting or not running properly...

Loserkidwac · 01-25-2007, 04:45 PM

Check the screw that holds the rotor on in the dizzy, had that fall out before and cause what you are talking about...also sounds like the firing order could be off...

highmilehatch · 01-25-2007, 04:47 PM

I think your firing order is off. Redo the wires how I showed you.

Notice where the flat (top) part of the dizzy is in this pic:

On the SOHC, the dizzy is tilted towards the front of the car. You still need to set up the wires based on where the flat (top) part of the dizzy is.

Loserkidwac · 01-25-2007, 04:47 PM

Loserkidwac · 01-25-2007, 04:48 PM

use that pic for refference should be the same for you even though its a different motor

spoolinSTi · 01-25-2007, 05:02 PM

yea i was using the order in the diagram listing in the first post. Im more then sure that is correct. Again the car will not start at all, just pop and grumbles. The dizzy there are 3 screws that look like you can adjust those. Anything with those can be wrong?

this is the diagram

highmilehatch · 01-25-2007, 05:06 PM

If your still using that picture, and looking at the dizzy from the passenger side, it's wrong. The pic your using doesn't have a reference to where the flat part of the dizzy is.

spoolinSTi · 01-25-2007, 05:07 PM

oh and i have a 92 civic dx hatchback, and showing this, D15B7 1.5L 16V SOHC PGM-FI 1493 '92-'95 Civic DX/LX USDM i have a d15b7 so i went by this,

,
so that shows the botch on the bottom should be a little off

spoolinSTi · 01-25-2007, 05:10 PM

how about this one, this is a d16z6, the vtec version

highmilehatch · 01-25-2007, 05:12 PM

Why are you making this harder than it needs to be? The bottom picture of the Z6 is the exact same thing I've been trying to tell you. Notice how the dizzy is tilted towards the front of car, flat part on the top, notice the placement of the wires.

Loserkidwac · 01-25-2007, 05:18 PM

Check your grounds too, the thermostat ground is a common "no start" problem, make sure its connected...

spoolinSTi · 01-25-2007, 05:24 PM

sorry im completely new to hondas, now about how that cam gear placement? is that supposed to be a little off like that?

Loserkidwac · 01-25-2007, 05:27 PM

Ingnore the bottom notch, you only need the 2 on the sides for the D15

highmilehatch · 01-25-2007, 05:30 PM

Does it crank???

spoolinSTi · 01-25-2007, 05:31 PM

it tries, but out of the exhaust it pops and grumbles like its about to put it just keeps doing that, and you can smell fuel from the exhaust and in the engine bay

highmilehatch · 01-25-2007, 05:34 PM

Have you rearranged the wires yet?

spoolinSTi · 01-25-2007, 05:35 PM

cant do that im at work now, but thats what it was doing this morning. Just trying to collect all the info i can for when i go home

01-25-2007, 04:17 PM	#1
spoolinSTi Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Member #3356 My Ride: 1998 Eagle talon TSi AWD iTrader: (1)	92 civic timing hey guys i have a 92 honda civic hatchback auto, it seems the timing is off somehow, i checked the crank pulley that mark matches the timing cover notch perfect. The cam gear was at TDC and the notch really didnt line up but i do have a pic. The wires are fine, i tried pulling the dizzy and it turned fine with a very little noise when i turned it, as far as i can see the plugs look fine, pic s here So if anyone can give some advice or something may be wrong let me know.Oh and heres and i diagram i used for the wire pug in Thanks guys tom Modified by 94preluder3084 at 12:06 PM 1/25/2007

01-25-2007, 04:36 PM	#2
highmilehatch Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PA Member #929 iTrader: (3)	Is the car not starting? Or is the car not running up to par? Are you talking about ignition timing or cam/crank timing? That first pic does no good. Is the "up" mark on the cam gear at the top, and the two hash marks on either side of the gear parallel to the timing cover? When the gear is in that position, the lone white mark on the crank pulley should be lined up with the pointer on the lower timing cover. That's how you know your at TDC. If your talking about ignition timing please verify. Also, your firing order may be off. Looking at the distributor from the passenger side fender it should go like this: top (flat part of the dizzy) 3 4 1 2 __________________ 92 SC300 - 2JZGTE 93 Civic Si - 11.3@125 stock block pump gas FOR SALE Last edited by highmilehatch; 01-25-2007 at 04:44 PM.

01-25-2007, 04:43 PM	#4
Loserkidwac Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SE PA Member #2550 My Ride: 1992 Mazda Miata, 1991 Honda CRX Si LS-T, 95 Civic VX iTrader: (3)	Well which motor do you have the notch on the bottom you took the pic for is for the D16 motors, you need to line up the lines on the sides of the cam shaft...so if they are in line with the head and the crank pulley is lined up then your cam timing is ok...dizzy timing is also different.... As Highmilehatch asked whats up with the car, not starting or not running properly... __________________ MoHawks are Cool To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

01-25-2007, 04:45 PM	#5
Loserkidwac Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SE PA Member #2550 My Ride: 1992 Mazda Miata, 1991 Honda CRX Si LS-T, 95 Civic VX iTrader: (3)	Check the screw that holds the rotor on in the dizzy, had that fall out before and cause what you are talking about...also sounds like the firing order could be off... __________________ MoHawks are Cool To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

01-25-2007, 04:47 PM	#6
highmilehatch Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PA Member #929 iTrader: (3)	I think your firing order is off. Redo the wires how I showed you. Notice where the flat (top) part of the dizzy is in this pic: On the SOHC, the dizzy is tilted towards the front of the car. You still need to set up the wires based on where the flat (top) part of the dizzy is. __________________ 92 SC300 - 2JZGTE 93 Civic Si - 11.3@125 stock block pump gas FOR SALE Last edited by highmilehatch; 01-25-2007 at 04:50 PM.

01-25-2007, 04:41 PM	#3
spoolinSTi Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Member #3356 My Ride: 1998 Eagle talon TSi AWD iTrader: (1)	im talking about all of them because the car wont start at all, it just boggs and pops but doesnt start at all. Thats what im trying to figure out whats going on. yes the marks were even with the head.

01-25-2007, 04:47 PM	#7
Loserkidwac Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SE PA Member #2550 My Ride: 1992 Mazda Miata, 1991 Honda CRX Si LS-T, 95 Civic VX iTrader: (3)	__________________ MoHawks are Cool To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

01-25-2007, 04:48 PM	#8
Loserkidwac Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SE PA Member #2550 My Ride: 1992 Mazda Miata, 1991 Honda CRX Si LS-T, 95 Civic VX iTrader: (3)	use that pic for refference should be the same for you even though its a different motor __________________ MoHawks are Cool To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

01-25-2007, 05:02 PM	#9
spoolinSTi Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Member #3356 My Ride: 1998 Eagle talon TSi AWD iTrader: (1)	yea i was using the order in the diagram listing in the first post. Im more then sure that is correct. Again the car will not start at all, just pop and grumbles. The dizzy there are 3 screws that look like you can adjust those. Anything with those can be wrong? this is the diagram

01-25-2007, 05:06 PM	#10
highmilehatch Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PA Member #929 iTrader: (3)	If your still using that picture, and looking at the dizzy from the passenger side, it's wrong. The pic your using doesn't have a reference to where the flat part of the dizzy is. __________________ 92 SC300 - 2JZGTE 93 Civic Si - 11.3@125 stock block pump gas FOR SALE

01-25-2007, 05:07 PM	#11
spoolinSTi Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Member #3356 My Ride: 1998 Eagle talon TSi AWD iTrader: (1)	oh and i have a 92 civic dx hatchback, and showing this, D15B7 1.5L 16V SOHC PGM-FI 1493 '92-'95 Civic DX/LX USDM i have a d15b7 so i went by this, , so that shows the botch on the bottom should be a little off

01-25-2007, 05:10 PM	#12
spoolinSTi Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Member #3356 My Ride: 1998 Eagle talon TSi AWD iTrader: (1)	how about this one, this is a d16z6, the vtec version

01-25-2007, 05:12 PM	#13
highmilehatch Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PA Member #929 iTrader: (3)	Why are you making this harder than it needs to be? The bottom picture of the Z6 is the exact same thing I've been trying to tell you. Notice how the dizzy is tilted towards the front of car, flat part on the top, notice the placement of the wires. __________________ 92 SC300 - 2JZGTE 93 Civic Si - 11.3@125 stock block pump gas FOR SALE

01-25-2007, 05:18 PM	#14
Loserkidwac Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SE PA Member #2550 My Ride: 1992 Mazda Miata, 1991 Honda CRX Si LS-T, 95 Civic VX iTrader: (3)	Check your grounds too, the thermostat ground is a common "no start" problem, make sure its connected... __________________ MoHawks are Cool To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

01-25-2007, 05:24 PM	#15
spoolinSTi Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Member #3356 My Ride: 1998 Eagle talon TSi AWD iTrader: (1)	sorry im completely new to hondas, now about how that cam gear placement? is that supposed to be a little off like that?

01-25-2007, 05:27 PM	#16
Loserkidwac Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SE PA Member #2550 My Ride: 1992 Mazda Miata, 1991 Honda CRX Si LS-T, 95 Civic VX iTrader: (3)	Ingnore the bottom notch, you only need the 2 on the sides for the D15 __________________ MoHawks are Cool To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

01-25-2007, 05:30 PM	#17
highmilehatch Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PA Member #929 iTrader: (3)	Does it crank??? __________________ 92 SC300 - 2JZGTE 93 Civic Si - 11.3@125 stock block pump gas FOR SALE

01-25-2007, 05:31 PM	#18
spoolinSTi Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Member #3356 My Ride: 1998 Eagle talon TSi AWD iTrader: (1)	it tries, but out of the exhaust it pops and grumbles like its about to put it just keeps doing that, and you can smell fuel from the exhaust and in the engine bay

01-25-2007, 05:34 PM	#19
highmilehatch Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PA Member #929 iTrader: (3)	Have you rearranged the wires yet? __________________ 92 SC300 - 2JZGTE 93 Civic Si - 11.3@125 stock block pump gas FOR SALE

01-25-2007, 05:35 PM	#20
spoolinSTi Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Member #3356 My Ride: 1998 Eagle talon TSi AWD iTrader: (1)	cant do that im at work now, but thats what it was doing this morning. Just trying to collect all the info i can for when i go home

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