Coilover question

[CleanNeon98]

OK so the rule is without a camber kit, when you lower the car after a certain ammount, the wheels get slanted (camber). My question is, lets say i lower my car 2.5 inches for summertime, get an alignment, everything is nice and straight...then i raise it up, and next summer go to lower it again...is the camber gona get thrown off every time i do this? is it wiser to keep getting alignments, or get a camber kit?

[TurboTagTeam]

Yes, your gonna get camber negative camber if you lower your car. But don't be worried about tire wear. Just get an alighment after every adjustment of the coilovers.

Camber does not kill tires, improper toe angle kills tires.
(Toe angle is when the front of your tires are pointed in or out, like a duck or a penguin)

[CleanNeon98]

Originally Posted by TurboTagTeam

Yes, your gonna get camber negative camber if you lower your car. But don't be worried about tire wear. Just get an alighment after every adjustment of the coilovers.

Camber does not kill tires, improper toe angle kills tires.
(Toe angle is when the front of your tires are pointed in or out, like a duck or a penguin)

I was talking about this



See how the front is slanted? I dont wnat that **** happening to my tires every time i lower the car. TROLL also said that there were a lot of maintenance issues with them...is it that thety dont hold?

[TurboTagTeam]

Maintenence???

Slam the car...Get an alighment..end of story.

Your camber is gonna be nothing like that. Like I said before, camber does not kill tires, toe angle does.

[Renegade_]

Camber does give some excess wear on tires as opposed to the tire being completely neutral but not even close to what toe angle will do to your tires if you have that off.

[CleanNeon98]

so an alignment they fix camber/toe/w.e else there is? if so then 525 for full B&G coilovers and if I can install them myself, sounds great.

[Renegade_]

alignment they do everything for your suspension.

[TurboTagTeam]

An alighnment will not fix camber. Camber is non adjustable on civic's. You have to get a camber kit. Skunk2 makes a good kit. Dont be worried about camber just get an alighment.

[CleanNeon98]

Originally Posted by TurboTagTeam

An alighnment will not fix camber. Camber is non adjustable on civic's. You have to get a camber kit. Skunk2 makes a good kit. Dont be worried about camber just get an alighment.

well i dont want my wheels slanted cause then if they are its gona eat up the inside or outside of the tire more. 525 for full coilovers..good deal?

[ToTheIX's]

a 2.5 drop wont give you much camber anyway so just do it

[LSHatch]

Why do you want to raise it for winter time? My S had about 3 inches of ground clearance in the front and I drove it through plenty of snow storms.

Lower it/alignment/drive it and leave it.

[CleanNeon98]

well then wahts the benefit of geting coilovers and not struts/springs.

[TurboTagTeam]

To have the height of your car adjustable. This is necessary when racing, corner balancing, and you can also adjust the stiffness(dampining) on some coilovers. 525 for coilovers is real cheap. Be carfulle with cheap coilovers. They normally rust on the threads making them extreamly hard to adjust wich defeats there purpose.

Do not worry about camber it's not gonna eat your tires.

[CleanNeon98]

Originally Posted by TurboTagTeam

To have the height of your car adjustable. This is necessary when racing, corner balancing, and you can also adjust the stiffness(dampining) on some coilovers. 525 for coilovers is real cheap. Be carfulle with cheap coilovers. They normally rust on the threads making them extreamly hard to adjust wich defeats there purpose.

Do not worry about camber it's not gonna eat your tires.

These are B&G full coilovers that have a full retail price of $1250

http://truehonda.com/inventory.php?a...ctdetail&id=33

Good?

[TurboTagTeam]

I'v never heard of them. Unless you are going to be seriously tracking your car, you dont need coilovers. A decent strut/spring combo is more than enough for the street. Most coilovers have a very harsh ride.

[whitezenki]

coilovers are a lot harsher, but its a tradeoff for WAY better handling, i held off on shock/spring combo for hks hipermax coilovers, they retail over 2000 and are nice as hell... at least in the twoforty world everyone i talk to says coils blow shock/spring combo out of the water, and once you get them theres no going back...


plus... its harsh, but my gf doesnt even complain, so i hope you can handle it

[Wiisass]

Coilovers don't have to have a harsh ride. If they're valved properly they can give whatever type of ride you want. The harshness is defined by the high speed characteristics of the damper. And with most linearly valved dampers in order to have good control of the unsprung mass at low damper speed, the high speed region ends up being too stiff to absorb the bumps. With a digressively valved damper, you can get the stiffer low speed damping and have the high speed damping fall off so the bumps will be absorbed.

But with most of the lower middle class of coilovers, usually the stuff under $2g's, you won't get the valving you want.

Coilovers are nice because of the height adjustability. But you can get a good spring and shock combo and it can handle just as well for what you're doing. Which, I'm guessing isn't anything off the street.

[Uberu]

Originally Posted by CleanNeon98

525 for full coilovers..good deal?

Are you talking about coilover sleeves like the ground controls (springs with a metal tube in the bottom with threads that you can adjust)?

[ketchup!]

Originally Posted by TurboTagTeam

To have the height of your car adjustable. This is necessary when racing, corner balancing, and you can also adjust the stiffness(dampining) on some coilovers. 525 for coilovers is real cheap. Be carfulle with cheap coilovers. They normally rust on the threads making them extreamly hard to adjust wich defeats there purpose.

Do not worry about camber it's not gonna eat your tires.

yep, ive been lowered/slammed for a 6 months with no camber kit and my tires have been fine

[Loserkidwac]

YEs don't worry about camber the wheel being slanted like that will not effect tire wear if you get a proper toe alinement...for around $550 I think you can get K-Sport full coilovers and you will be very happy with them, if I not I'd say look for some Ground controls and pick a decent shock, I suggest Koni Yellows...Camber kits are a waste of money in my opinion