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Uberu · 11-21-2006, 06:21 PM

My dad is letting me put springs on my car for xmas. I know eibach makes lowering springs for my car, but they also are made for the wrx, same model number and everything. Will that also apply to the tein springs...if they are made for a wrx, will they fit my 2.5i?

Renegade_ · 11-21-2006, 06:23 PM

I would think so, last of know of the struts are similar between the models

2000MRDC2 · 11-22-2006, 01:58 AM

id do the teins jake the eibachs arent much of a drop

**TROLL** · 11-22-2006, 02:30 AM

tein s techs blow... all looks at the expense of hurting performance. tein h techs are a decent choice though. when i was buying my car one of the main differences was the 'sport' suspension offered on the WRX but i have no technical info to back that up. i believe they take the same springs but like i said in the pm, call someone who sells a lot of them and get a definite.
you could also get perrin springs which are really nice. i have a set of 04+ (WRX or STi) Perrins brand new for sale if you are interested.

ILikeItSideways · 11-22-2006, 09:52 AM

if you are sticking with the stock struts, don't drop your car more than .5" to 1". You can order custom springs from eibach(and for fairly cheap). And you can't beat their million mile warranty. so as long as you know what spring rates you want, the OD of the coil, and the length of the springs eibach is a great choice. They have a catalogue of standard springs they have in stock. I think 8" or 10" is the stock length. I ordered 10" springs with my Ground Control coil sleeves and I placed them next to my stockers, and they were the same length. I don't know about the '06's though.
Given that though, You can choose how much you want to drop your car by.

here is the catalogue of their springs: http://eibach.com/eibach/img/ers-catalog-2004.pdf

What kind of handling do you want to get out of new springs? A la more oversteer? More neutral handling?

wrx_snobordr · 11-22-2006, 03:22 PM

Stay FAR FAR away from the Tein s-techs, they are the worst springs ever. After I rid myself of the trash S-Techs i got prodrives and LOVED them. Perfect drop, IMHO, and the handling was amazing. I had them matched up with a set of KYB AGX's and a 22mm rear sway bar with perrin end links and the car felt real nice.

Good luck on the decision and enjoy!

D Money · 11-22-2006, 03:25 PM

Get Tein S-techs. They are fine.

**TROLL** · 11-22-2006, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by subwrxkid

Get Tein S-techs. They are fine.

ok i get it, it makes sense now... you just want to make sure nobody every mistakes you for someone who has even an ounce of worry for anything performance oriented. now that i realize this a heavy weight has been lifted from my shoulders!

RyanG · 11-22-2006, 03:57 PM

using S-techs. with AGX's. I have ZERO complaints with that setup.

D Money · 11-22-2006, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TROLL

ok i get it, it makes sense now... you just want to make sure nobody every mistakes you for someone who has even an ounce of worry for anything performance oriented. now that i realize this a heavy weight has been lifted from my shoulders!

No.

You don't see me running tein s-techs now do you? I said they were fine.

I have Tein Flex's, the new ones, and I bought them brand new not used....

ILikeItSideways · 11-22-2006, 04:18 PM

http://www.ground-control-store.com/...gory.php/CA=25

Just FYI. They worth taking a look at. I can vouch for them as can several auto-x'ers and even some pro rally guru's.

Renegade_ · 11-22-2006, 05:34 PM

Personally I will go with the prodrives when I set up my car - They drop the car like an inch to an inch and a half and have stiffer rates which you want. On another note the Prodrive springs are produced by eibach I believe

bkotzman00 · 11-22-2006, 05:40 PM

SPT pinks are also a good choice with a low drop and good rates, but the H-techs are a good spring

Uberu · 11-22-2006, 07:31 PM

The sti pinks only drop my car like 20 mm or something like that. I will look into the prodrives. Can anybody vouch for any othe product?

I just found Perrin Tunersport Springs for my car that lower 1.9 f and 1.5 rear, can anybody tell me if perrin springs are nice and how stiff they are?

ILikeItSideways · 11-23-2006, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGMsubI

Can anybody vouch for any othe product?

See post #5 and #11

1.9 is almost too much for the stock struts...

Uberu · 11-24-2006, 10:32 AM

Thanks ilikeitsideways, i'm almost positive that i am ordering the ground control coilover conversion kit

RyanG · 11-24-2006, 11:10 AM

you dont plan on putting the Ground Controls on your stock struts do you? The dampening rate on the stock struts is not enough for a linear rate spring such as the GC's. You WILL destroy the struts as well as have a very harsh an unpredictable ride. bad mojo my friend. I really dont think you will like GC's for everyday driving. You should go with a progresive rate spring set up. The autocross guys like them because of the stiffness.

slavetothemuzic · 11-24-2006, 12:58 PM

My advice would be, consider your long term goal regarding your suspension setup, then make the proper choice.

If you don't, you're just pissing away money.

If you really want to make the car handle, coilovers like the Tein Type Flex are probably more in line with what you're looking for. If you just want to lower your car, grab some Eibach springs and be done with it. Just remember, that if you use nearly any aftermarket lowering spring with your stock shocks/struts, they're going to blow them out. They weren't designed to work with those springs. Best bet is to replace both at the same time.

But like I said, evaluate what your long term goal is before you drop $500-600 on springs/struts and decide what you want to do. It sucks waiting to make it happen, but in the long term, you spend a lot less money because you didn't buy a setup you won't be happy with and have to change it again.

Uberu · 11-24-2006, 03:56 PM

My ultimate goal is to autox this car. I want to lower my car at leat a little bit, but i'm way more worried about performance. I want a stiff spring. My brother had gc's on his spec-v and never had any problems and his car handled like it was on rails

Uberu · 11-24-2006, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AREA1320

you dont plan on putting the Ground Controls on your stock struts do you? The dampening rate on the stock struts is not enough for a linear rate spring such as the GC's. You WILL destroy the struts as well as have a very harsh an unpredictable ride. bad mojo my friend. I really dont think you will like GC's for everyday driving. You should go with a progresive rate spring set up. The autocross guys like them because of the stiffness.

Its hard to find springs i want that are progressive because progressive springs never give spring rates. And gc said their coilover conv. kit was designed using the stock struts.

11-21-2006, 06:23 PM	#2
Renegade_ Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: NNJ/NYC Member #1912 My Ride: 1J Swaggon iTrader: (2)	I would think so, last of know of the struts are similar between the models __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

11-22-2006, 01:58 AM	#3
2000MRDC2 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Philly Member #1004 My Ride: 1999 Integra LS Sedan iTrader: (1)	id do the teins jake the eibachs arent much of a drop __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Honda <3

11-22-2006, 03:22 PM	#6
wrx_snobordr Tri-State Addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Member #21 iTrader: (1)	Stay FAR FAR away from the Tein s-techs, they are the worst springs ever. After I rid myself of the trash S-Techs i got prodrives and LOVED them. Perfect drop, IMHO, and the handling was amazing. I had them matched up with a set of KYB AGX's and a 22mm rear sway bar with perrin end links and the car felt real nice. Good luck on the decision and enjoy! __________________ Stock

11-22-2006, 03:57 PM	#9
RyanG Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Easton, PA Member #63 iTrader: (1)	using S-techs. with AGX's. I have ZERO complaints with that setup. __________________ I am Area1320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

11-22-2006, 05:34 PM	#12
Renegade_ Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: NNJ/NYC Member #1912 My Ride: 1J Swaggon iTrader: (2)	Personally I will go with the prodrives when I set up my car - They drop the car like an inch to an inch and a half and have stiffer rates which you want. On another note the Prodrive springs are produced by eibach I believe __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

11-21-2006, 06:21 PM	#1
Uberu Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2064 My Ride: 2006 Impreza 2.5i iTrader: (0)	Eibach or Tein Springs My dad is letting me put springs on my car for xmas. I know eibach makes lowering springs for my car, but they also are made for the wrx, same model number and everything. Will that also apply to the tein springs...if they are made for a wrx, will they fit my 2.5i? __________________ formerly SGMsubI Ha, is this possible, "And that's besides the fact that I'm lactose and tolerent lol..." -Willdue Wow

11-22-2006, 09:52 AM	#5
ILikeItSideways Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Princeton, IN, Cincinnati, OH, West Lafayette, IN Member #2967 My Ride: 2001 Subaru 2.5RS iTrader: (0)	if you are sticking with the stock struts, don't drop your car more than .5" to 1". You can order custom springs from eibach(and for fairly cheap). And you can't beat their million mile warranty. so as long as you know what spring rates you want, the OD of the coil, and the length of the springs eibach is a great choice. They have a catalogue of standard springs they have in stock. I think 8" or 10" is the stock length. I ordered 10" springs with my Ground Control coil sleeves and I placed them next to my stockers, and they were the same length. I don't know about the '06's though. Given that though, You can choose how much you want to drop your car by. here is the catalogue of their springs: http://eibach.com/eibach/img/ers-catalog-2004.pdf What kind of handling do you want to get out of new springs? A la more oversteer? More neutral handling? Last edited by ILikeItSideways; 11-22-2006 at 09:55 AM.

11-22-2006, 04:18 PM	#11
ILikeItSideways Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Princeton, IN, Cincinnati, OH, West Lafayette, IN Member #2967 My Ride: 2001 Subaru 2.5RS iTrader: (0)	http://www.ground-control-store.com/...gory.php/CA=25 Just FYI. They worth taking a look at. I can vouch for them as can several auto-x'ers and even some pro rally guru's.

11-22-2006, 05:40 PM	#13
bkotzman00 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: York, Pa Member #2982 My Ride: 2004 Subaru WRX iTrader: (0)	SPT pinks are also a good choice with a low drop and good rates, but the H-techs are a good spring

11-22-2006, 07:31 PM	#14
Uberu Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2064 My Ride: 2006 Impreza 2.5i iTrader: (0)	The sti pinks only drop my car like 20 mm or something like that. I will look into the prodrives. Can anybody vouch for any othe product? I just found Perrin Tunersport Springs for my car that lower 1.9 f and 1.5 rear, can anybody tell me if perrin springs are nice and how stiff they are? __________________ formerly SGMsubI Ha, is this possible, "And that's besides the fact that I'm lactose and tolerent lol..." -Willdue Wow Last edited by Uberu; 11-22-2006 at 08:44 PM. Reason: didn't feel like making another post

11-24-2006, 10:32 AM	#16
Uberu Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2064 My Ride: 2006 Impreza 2.5i iTrader: (0)	Thanks ilikeitsideways, i'm almost positive that i am ordering the ground control coilover conversion kit __________________ formerly SGMsubI Ha, is this possible, "And that's besides the fact that I'm lactose and tolerent lol..." -Willdue Wow

11-24-2006, 11:10 AM	#17
RyanG Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Easton, PA Member #63 iTrader: (1)	you dont plan on putting the Ground Controls on your stock struts do you? The dampening rate on the stock struts is not enough for a linear rate spring such as the GC's. You WILL destroy the struts as well as have a very harsh an unpredictable ride. bad mojo my friend. I really dont think you will like GC's for everyday driving. You should go with a progresive rate spring set up. The autocross guys like them because of the stiffness. __________________ I am Area1320 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Last edited by RyanG; 11-24-2006 at 11:18 AM.

11-24-2006, 12:58 PM	#18
slavetothemuzic Tri-State Addict Join Date: May 2005 Location: Vancouver, WA. Member #421 My Ride: 1991 Nissan 240SX SE Fastback iTrader: (0)	My advice would be, consider your long term goal regarding your suspension setup, then make the proper choice. If you don't, you're just pissing away money. If you really want to make the car handle, coilovers like the Tein Type Flex are probably more in line with what you're looking for. If you just want to lower your car, grab some Eibach springs and be done with it. Just remember, that if you use nearly any aftermarket lowering spring with your stock shocks/struts, they're going to blow them out. They weren't designed to work with those springs. Best bet is to replace both at the same time. But like I said, evaluate what your long term goal is before you drop $500-600 on springs/struts and decide what you want to do. It sucks waiting to make it happen, but in the long term, you spend a lot less money because you didn't buy a setup you won't be happy with and have to change it again. __________________ "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - George Orwell

11-24-2006, 03:56 PM	#19
Uberu Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2064 My Ride: 2006 Impreza 2.5i iTrader: (0)	My ultimate goal is to autox this car. I want to lower my car at leat a little bit, but i'm way more worried about performance. I want a stiff spring. My brother had gc's on his spec-v and never had any problems and his car handled like it was on rails __________________ formerly SGMsubI Ha, is this possible, "And that's besides the fact that I'm lactose and tolerent lol..." -Willdue Wow

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