Front-mounted intercoolers vs. Hood scoop intercoolers - TriStateTuners.com :: Home of Tristate Auto Enthusiast

PotenzaSub · 08-15-2006, 02:26 AM

Ok, so I'm running N/A and I wanna learn some more about turbos.

My questions is: what is the advantage, or disadvantage, to having a front mounted intercooler rather than one that is mounted on top of the engine uner the hood scoop?

Are front mounted intercoolers generally bigger?

koho2731 · 08-15-2006, 02:36 AM

The FMIC has the advantage of not being in the engine bay and has more air flow potential. The disadvantage is that it blocks the radiator and has more charge pipes to pressurize.

The TMIC is limited on size and tends to heat soak quickly

Willdue · 08-15-2006, 02:37 AM

Plus the FMIC looks sick as Hell haha

**TROLL** · 08-15-2006, 09:07 AM

yeah fmics will generally make more maximum power but the spool will be slightly slower since there is extra piping involved. by putting the fmic up front there is more room to allow for a bigger core, and it is away from the engine bay so it wont have as much of an issue with heat soak.
the way the wrx and sti are designed, the tmic is actually very good because of the extremely short 'piping' involved, and a lot of aftermarket tmics are excellent for medium sized turbo upgrades.
admittedly i could have kept my tmic, but i was sucked into temptation and traded it for a fmic... cant tell you for sure whether it was a smart move performance wise but i can tell you a lot more people ask me about my car now

Renegade_ · 08-15-2006, 09:37 AM

if you do a swap or turbo your RS, keep it TMIC - gotta put that scoop to use and keep it sleeper

PotenzaSub · 08-15-2006, 05:51 PM

hmmm....the TMIC sounds better.

EvlEgl · 08-15-2006, 05:54 PM

O0o0o0o Can I put a TMIC in the talon!!!!

Ha.

koho2731 · 08-15-2006, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PotenzaSub

hmmm....the TMIC sounds better.

It really depends on your goals

Renegade_ · 08-15-2006, 06:04 PM

yeah, of course, I am just saying TMIC so that the scoop on the RS can actually be used for once hah

I personally will be going sleeper

koho2731 · 08-15-2006, 06:17 PM

I like the sleeper look too, but if he wants 400+awhp the top mount may not work so well.

PotenzaSub · 08-15-2006, 07:06 PM

Hmmm....what about having two intercoolers. the TMIC would be in use at low RPMS and the FMIC at high RPMS. is that even possible?

Evo8kid · 08-15-2006, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PotenzaSub

Hmmm....what about having two intercoolers. the TMIC would be in use at low RPMS and the FMIC at high RPMS. is that even possible?

Wouldnt that just be like the turbo spooling, the air passing through the FMIC, then it going through the TMIC, and finally into the throttle body? Yea turbo lags a bitch.

It Depends what kind of driving your doing. Do you, drive fast on the roads/autocross/roadrace (FMIC). Or do you, rally and all that jazz. (TMIC)

teh DIRT · 08-15-2006, 09:03 PM

hmm a divertor valve for tmic then fmic...i like this idea.

MaxRPM · 08-15-2006, 10:37 PM

V-mount intercooler is the way to go..

PotenzaSub · 08-15-2006, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRPM

V-mount intercooler is the way to go..

whats that?

Renegade_ · 08-16-2006, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teh DIRT

hmm a divertor valve for tmic then fmic...i like this idea.

You could rig up an external wastegate as the actuator to open up piping into the FMIC. Like when it opens up use that air in an actuator arm to open a valve into the FMIC which closes the TMIC...

Good luck

BradC · 08-16-2006, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PotenzaSub

whats that?

An intercooler and radiator mounted to look like a "V". The point of the "V" would face the motor, the opening would be where air enters.

Like this...

Raven18940 · 08-16-2006, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade_

if you do a swap or turbo your RS, keep it TMIC - gotta put that scoop to use and keep it sleeper

If I were to do a wrx, I'd have a stealthed FMIC with a flat hood. W00t sleeper!

Renegade_ · 08-16-2006, 09:06 AM

if you could do the flat black that the radiator comes painted with (if it's painted or if that's just the color of the metal) that would be pretty sweet. The piping would be hidden behind the fogs so you couldn't really tell.

D Money · 08-16-2006, 10:42 AM

hood scoop intercoolers?

08-15-2006, 02:26 AM	#1
PotenzaSub Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Member #2213 iTrader: (0)	Front-mounted intercoolers vs. Hood scoop intercoolers Ok, so I'm running N/A and I wanna learn some more about turbos. My questions is: what is the advantage, or disadvantage, to having a front mounted intercooler rather than one that is mounted on top of the engine uner the hood scoop? Are front mounted intercoolers generally bigger?

08-15-2006, 05:54 PM	#7
EvlEgl Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Member #1412 My Ride: 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe iTrader: (0)	O0o0o0o Can I put a TMIC in the talon!!!! Ha. __________________ 2010 Tsukuba Red Genesis Coupe 3.8 2008 Kawasaki ZX6R [FRSH]

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koho2731 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dover, DE Member #997 My Ride: 95 Eagle Talon TSi AWD iTrader: (1)	The FMIC has the advantage of not being in the engine bay and has more air flow potential. The disadvantage is that it blocks the radiator and has more charge pipes to pressurize. The TMIC is limited on size and tends to heat soak quickly

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Willdue Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Catasaqua Member #2000 My Ride: To many VW's iTrader: (3)	Plus the FMIC looks sick as Hell haha

08-15-2006, 09:37 AM	#5
Renegade_ Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: NNJ/NYC Member #1912 My Ride: 1J Swaggon iTrader: (2)	if you do a swap or turbo your RS, keep it TMIC - gotta put that scoop to use and keep it sleeper

08-15-2006, 05:51 PM	#6
PotenzaSub Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Member #2213 iTrader: (0)	hmmm....the TMIC sounds better.

08-15-2006, 06:04 PM	#9
Renegade_ Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: NNJ/NYC Member #1912 My Ride: 1J Swaggon iTrader: (2)	yeah, of course, I am just saying TMIC so that the scoop on the RS can actually be used for once hah I personally will be going sleeper

08-15-2006, 06:17 PM	#10
koho2731 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Dover, DE Member #997 My Ride: 95 Eagle Talon TSi AWD iTrader: (1)	I like the sleeper look too, but if he wants 400+awhp the top mount may not work so well.

08-15-2006, 07:06 PM	#11
PotenzaSub Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Member #2213 iTrader: (0)	Hmmm....what about having two intercoolers. the TMIC would be in use at low RPMS and the FMIC at high RPMS. is that even possible?

08-15-2006, 10:37 PM	#14
MaxRPM Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2005 Member #360 iTrader: (0)	V-mount intercooler is the way to go..

08-16-2006, 09:06 AM	#19
Renegade_ Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: NNJ/NYC Member #1912 My Ride: 1J Swaggon iTrader: (2)	if you could do the flat black that the radiator comes painted with (if it's painted or if that's just the color of the metal) that would be pretty sweet. The piping would be hidden behind the fogs so you couldn't really tell.