Anyone a Honda Tech/Salesman/Etc....I have a really sticky situation here..NEED HELP!

[2point0T]

I have a 2008 Honda Accord EX-L couple and I was rear ended almost two years ago. My car was fixed to spec. I continued to try and sell my car some time later with no luck. Everyone who was initially interested in the car pulled up the carfax in which this accident is described as leaving my car with FRAME/STRUCTURAL damage. I left the country this past March and started to attempt to sell my car this past January. The best offer I have gotten on this car is 12k (KBB around 17ish). I have filed a civil suit against the guy that hit me for diminution (loss) in value....which his insurance company has already acknowledge by paying me an insultingly low amount of money for. He intends to defend himself and has hired an attorney.

WHAT I NEED is an expert witness (that I will pay for their TIME) to help me explain to the court one of a few things...

-due to accident car cannot be re-certified by Honda of America
-due to accident car has frame damage on carfax therefore reducing the resale value significantly ($4-6k)
-explain what a bent frame means generally & specifically AND why this would affect the resale value of a car such as mine


This whole situation really sucks so anyone that might be able to help me out with an expert testimony, or share other wisdom or recommendations would be highly appreciated. Thanks!

[jpalamar]

You accepted the settlement from their insurance, therefore accepted all the terms. You should of requested additional money for lost value before cashing out. You WILL NOT win.

Bottom line, your car as an accidnet on record, it isn't worth as much as a car that is clean. It sucks but thats the way it is. Too many shady repairs made people loose faith in fixed cars.

[2point0T]

Actually, you aren't correct. First off my claim is not against the insurance company anymore, its against the person who hit me. Secondly, there were no terms and nothing signed to the extent that closes or settles the matter. What I do have from the check they sent me, however, is an acknowledgement that my car in fact, has lost value. This is all according to my attorney, who gives actual legal advice. I didn't ask for legal advice, I'm simply looking for an expert in the fields mentioned in the OP. I'd appreciate it if we can keep it on subject here....my hearing will be in the next couple weeks and I hope to secure an expert witness ASAP.

As mentioned you will be compensated for your TIME. I don't want my expert witness to lie, butter things up, etc. The facts of the case are cut and dry and even though these observations are obvious, I need an expert.

[Scapegoat]

why are you suing the person that hit you? insurance companies usually roll over at the mention of a lawyer/lawsuit. get your attorney to write them a letter explaining everything and that you did not receive enough money

[Ender81]

Alright guys we aren't lawyers and we aren't judges so let's not have a conversation about what we think.

He is asking for a Honda tech if you are not one or do not have someone he could contact please DO NOT POST.

[ThePrimerSuspect]

well, i USED TO BE a honda tech, if that helps. also, i have been going through the same situation. when i brought up diminished value to the insurance company they basically laughed at me. and every lawyer i talk to doesnt have the time of day for me when i explain my case. im really curious as to how this will play out. its probably not worth my time since the girl who hit me doesnt have **** anyway.

[angdefeo]

check out www.autoclaimshelp.net they are a local company which should be able to help you.

[2point0T]

My attorney did in fact write a letter to the insurance company stating that we would continue to file suit if they didn't reconsider the value at which they concluded my car had diminished by. They replied and said we will not reconsider, leaving me this as the only option. The guy's insurance company totally bailed on him, I feel sorry for the guy but I don't want my car, I should have been able to sell it back to Honda on the spot and I can't because of this guy rear ending me.


@ThePrimerSuspect

My step dad had been my attorney up to this point but now I'm working at getting a litigator as he doesn't do this type of thing. The guy did reply and will be defending himself, since it is only him that I am suing, and has a "low on the food chain" lawyer to defend him. I believe he is married, with a home and automobiles likely in his name. He was probably in fear that I would file a lien against him, which I would in fact be ready to do if I have to. Would you consider yourself an expert in any one of those mentioned areas that I need? PM me if you are and well work something out, thanks.

thanks Ang Ill check it out

[Scapegoat]

just wondering how much of a difference there is and if you not pursuing this will you be eating any money? sounds like this guy needs to turn this suit around on his insurance company for bailing

[2point0T]

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

just wondering how much of a difference there is and if you not pursuing this will you be eating any money? sounds like this guy needs to turn this suit around on his insurance company for bailing

best offer I got was 12k when the car had a blue book value of near 18k

If I did not pursue this I have to keep the car because I don't have 5-6k to pay Honda because thats how much more I owe than the 12k. I am forced to continue paying for it, a monthly expense that I don't want or need as I'm currently only partially employed

[Subie_sleeper]

I'm a Subaru sales rep.
I tell people ALL THE TIME that their trade has diminished value due to a bad carfax. Depending on when & where the case is I'll be happy to explain the situation that comes up whenever a car with a dirty carfax shows up. I don't need any cash for hooking up a fellow TST member either.
We even have a generic form that we fill out for customers to send to ins. companies explaining the diminished value of a vehicle based on internet guides such as KBB,NADA & Edmunds as well as true market value and ACV (actual cash value) based on Manheim auto Auction pricing.
Anyone who sells cars can tell you what it feels like to run a carfax on a decent trade & see FRAME DAMAGE highlighted. It kills the deal 75 percent of the time in my experience.

[2point0T]

Thanks Subie, I'll pm you with details as soon as I figure them out. How long have you been doing sales for?

[2001teg]

Isnt there a special insurance to cover your ass in a case like this? I'am drawing a blank but if I remember I will post it.

[goodfella732]

Originally Posted by 2point0T

since it is only him that I am suing, and has a "low on the food chain" lawyer to defend him. I believe he is married, with a home and automobiles likely in his name. He was probably in fear that I would file a lien against him, which I would in fact be ready to do if I have to.

dont know why seeing this makes me sick. dude, you got into an accident 2 YEARS ago and youre still fighting over this? The guy probably got buttraped but his insurance company already and they paid you and you took the money. this is one of the reasons why insurance premiums are sky high. why the accident probably wasn't your fault, at the end of the day you got paid and now your getting greedy and want more 2 years later. you dont know this guys situation but to put a lien on someones car or house over acouple grand of loss value, you end up deserved to be rear ended again.

[PhillySVT]

Originally Posted by goodfella732

dont know why seeing this makes me sick. dude, you got into an accident 2 YEARS ago and youre still fighting over this? The guy probably got buttraped but his insurance company already and they paid you and you took the money. this is one of the reasons why insurance premiums are sky high. why the accident probably wasn't your fault, at the end of the day you got paid and now your getting greedy and want more 2 years later. you dont know this guys situation but to put a lien on someones car or house over acouple grand of loss value, you end up deserved to be rear ended again.

I have to agree with this.....you took their money two years ago and now you expect full trade in on a damaged car? I have to ask...is this the first time you have tried to sell/trade in a car? Of course they aren't going to give you full value....the car got f-ed up. Are you dumb, stupid, or ignorant? You do realize this happens to every car that gets hit.

[jpalamar]

Originally Posted by goodfella732

dont know why seeing this makes me sick. dude, you got into an accident 2 YEARS ago and youre still fighting over this? The guy probably got buttraped but his insurance company already and they paid you and you took the money. this is one of the reasons why insurance premiums are sky high. why the accident probably wasn't your fault, at the end of the day you got paid and now your getting greedy and want more 2 years later. you dont know this guys situation but to put a lien on someones car or house over acouple grand of loss value, you end up deserved to be rear ended again.

Originally Posted by PhillySVT

I have to agree with this.....you took their money two years ago and now you expect full trade in on a damaged car? I have to ask...is this the first time you have tried to sell/trade in a car? Of course they aren't going to give you full value....the car got f-ed up. Are you dumb, stupid, or ignorant? You do realize this happens to every car that gets hit.

[2point0T]

Not only are you guys off topic, I'm just looking for a tech, not on opinions on whether or not you think what I am forced to do is greedy, ignorant, etc.... but the simple fact is that I have been unable to sell the car for what I should have been able to SOLELY because of this accident, I'm not talking a loss of a grand or two, I'm talking over 5k because that's what I would have to PAY OUT OF POCKET to get rid of the car based on offers and my payoff amount. I don't want a new car, I want a beater, and I can't even accomplish that because I can't sell my once great and valuable car because of SOMEONE ELSE. Maybe the both of you will find yourself in this situation, $5k+ of your money swinging in the balance because someone rear ended you (cited at fault by state police) and then you will understand. I hope not because this all sucks but until then and stay on topic

[2point0T]

Originally Posted by angdefeo

check out www.autoclaimshelp.net they are a local company which should be able to help you.

Thanks, this guy came and appraised my car, put the diminishment at $6-7k and will be my expert witness in court for a pretty penny which I hope to get recovered.

[Subie_sleeper]

Originally Posted by 2point0T

Thanks Subie, I'll pm you with details as soon as I figure them out. How long have you been doing sales for?

Just saw this, forgot to subscribe. Sorry. Seems like you're covered.
Diminished value claims letters get filled out quite often where I work. It's a part of an accidents equation if you have a late model car with a lien on it & you try to trade out of it. It sucks for all parties involved except the insurance companies.


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[goodfella732]

Originally Posted by 2point0T

Not only are you guys off topic, I'm just looking for a tech, not on opinions on whether or not you think what I am forced to do is greedy, ignorant, etc.... but the simple fact is that I have been unable to sell the car for what I should have been able to SOLELY because of this accident, I'm not talking a loss of a grand or two, I'm talking over 5k because that's what I would have to PAY OUT OF POCKET to get rid of the car based on offers and my payoff amount. I don't want a new car, I want a beater, and I can't even accomplish that because I can't sell my once great and valuable car because of SOMEONE ELSE. Maybe the both of you will find yourself in this situation, $5k+ of your money swinging in the balance because someone rear ended you (cited at fault by state police) and then you will understand. I hope not because this all sucks but until then and stay on topic

these things are called life my friend. its a risk you take driving everyday. you sense of entitlement sickens me. it was an ACCIDENT. The guy and his insurance company paid. Hope their lawyers wipe the floor with you and have you leaving the court room with your tail tucked nicely between you legs.