views on steroids

[Sberk06]

What are your views on steriod usage?

I know its illegal, but just curious how poeple feel about that.

Personally I understand why it is Illegal in sports. It kind of forces people who might not want to take them feel like they need to in order to keep up with the athletes who take them. As for personal use though for non-althetes I honestly don't understand why it should be illegal.

Myself personally, I would love to try them. I've been a hardcore gym guy for a few years now, and know it would just put me in a whole other league. I have all the respect in the world for "natural" bodybuilders, but not everyone wants to be that way.

[RedBowTies88]

personally i would never do it but i dont give a hell what anyone else wants to do

[rodder]

it's just another case of the federal government regulating things they have no business regulating. Athletic commissions and organized professional sports leagues are of course, free to make their own rules, but according to the 10th Amendment of the Constitution the federal government has no authority to regulate steroids. (or drugs, or guns, or alcohol, or any of the other thousands of things they claim to have authority over).

You can't legislate morality, bottom line.

[doug]

yeah.. good luck with that. enjoy trying them. smart! steroids, legal or not, aren't there just to be abused by barry bonds, roger clemens, manny ramirez and other large headed tools. steroids are usually and mainly used on patients with cancer, MS, AIDS, diabetes and other horrendous diseases. not for your healthy self to get your ultimate swoll on at the gym. I don't see what other 'personal' use there is for a non-athlete besides ruining your already healthy body. enjoy your other small testicle league you want to be in so badly.

[99blazer]

I think for personal use under a doctors supervision people should be able to take them. As for sports they should never be allowed to use for any type of sport. Its an unfair advantage and sports should be based off natural ability.

I understand why they are illegal to the general public because people abuse and misuse them all the time. They are not dangerous to the body like you are taught in school. If done right there should be no side affects at all but most people do not do it right and they end up having many health problems because of it.

Within the next year I will be running a 10 week cycle probably for a bulk cycle. I have done my homework and have been looking into for almost 2 years now. I have met people with years of experience in both lifting and cycling. I will be doing it under the supervision of a close friend.

[jpalamar]

I would be OK with it if people used but their insurance wouldn't cover any ill side effects of it. Same with smokers and heavy drinkers.

[99blazer]

Originally Posted by doug

I don't see what other 'personal' use there is for a non-athlete besides ruining your already healthy body. enjoy your other small testicle league you want to be in so badly.

Only people who abuse get small balls. Otherwise that stuff never happens.

[sean3]

Nothing wrong with non professional athletic use.

[Sberk06]

Originally Posted by doug

yeah.. good luck with that. enjoy trying them. smart! steroids, legal or not, aren't there just to be abused by barry bonds, roger clemens, manny ramirez and other large headed tools. steroids are usually and mainly used on patients with cancer, MS, AIDS, diabetes and other horrendous diseases. not for your healthy self to get your ultimate swoll on at the gym. I don't see what other 'personal' use there is for a non-athlete besides ruining your already healthy body. enjoy your other small testicle league you want to be in so badly.

Bysaying that i'm assuming you don't drink.. drinking has a pretty terrible effect on the liver as does smoking. both are still legal. people drink because they like it and think it is fun. some people goto the gym because they truely like it and it becomes a hobby. maybe they want to take their squat from 400lbs to 600lbs. Like I said though, I agree that they should not be used in Sports.
Steriods, when taken right, don't necessarily have as much of a negative effect on the body as most people think. It still puts extra stress on the heart, but so does the amount of caffiene some people drink on a daily basis.

[92sileighty]

if your not a science-based major you'll never begin to understand the good and bad of steroids. if you wanna try and get a clue on it, go to a school library and research some peer reviewed articles on the subject and learn some chemsitry. anything you'll get from google will be nonsense. you need real scientific research reviewed by other scientists. anyone that can read and comprehend the research will actually know about them, everyone else will just be blowing smoke.

[420sx]

I was diagnosed with growth hormone deficiency when i was in 5th grade. At the time, I played soccer. When they started me on HGH, my performance improved dramatically! I think there is a right way and a wrong way to do steroids, or any drug for that matter. Its a matter of being responsible with the drug and using it as it was intended, not abusing it. If you can keep a level head about it, be mature and responsible, I see no reason why someone shouldnt do steroids (or any drug). Problem with a lot of drugs (steroids included) is that people dont see the negative side effects of them, or choose not to see the side effects. Some drugs CANT be taken responsibly, no matter how strong your willpower- and those drugs should be illegal. But I think a person has the right to put whatever chemicals in them they want. Its your body. Its your responsibility to educate yourself on what youre doing/taking, and make a decision based on that. If it turns out to be a bad decision, its on you and nobody else.

[jpalamar]

Originally Posted by 420sx

I was diagnosed with growth hormone deficiency when i was in 5th grade. At the time, I played soccer. When they started me on HGH, my performance improved dramatically! I think there is a right way and a wrong way to do steroids, or any drug for that matter. Its a matter of being responsible with the drug and using it as it was intended, not abusing it. If you can keep a level head about it, be mature and responsible, I see no reason why someone shouldnt do steroids (or any drug). Problem with a lot of drugs (steroids included) is that people dont see the negative side effects of them, or choose not to see the side effects. Some drugs CANT be taken responsibly, no matter how strong your willpower- and those drugs should be illegal. But I think a person has the right to put whatever chemicals in them they want. Its your body. Its your responsibility to educate yourself on what youre doing/taking, and make a decision based on that. If it turns out to be a bad decision, its on you and nobody else.

[Sberk06]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kEnU7hIjHk

I mean who wouldn't want a voice like that.... LIGHT WEIGHT.

[dsm4life04]

The common misconception with steroids from an outside perspective is that you don't just get injected and wake up the next morning with incredible muscle mass. You have to work hard to get the results. You have to put the time in to get the rewards you want, otherwise steroids are just a waste of money. As far as for personal use is concerned i find it to be a poor health choice. I highly doubt that a normal man needs to try to look like that...working out 3-4 times a week should be able to take car of that. However in sports, physical strength is so demanding that its hard to blame anyone for using. Although now a days ALL athletes know the harmful side effects of steroids and the public perception, so any athlete that uses them is just setting themselves up to look foolish.

All in all i would NEVER touch them and would encourage others to do the same. But at the same time its necessary to be aware of why professional athletes have resorted to using them. All of this is just a matter of opinion.

[igo4bmx]

the issue with steroids for me is that the people who take it and get the bad wrap are all the extreme cases of steroid use. think about it, bodybuilder and athletes are people who's career's depends on being the best physically. People who consume steroids already are nutcases (i have several friends on it or have been on it, and they all have self image issues)

i'd take it but not really caring to take it since my joints are all messed up.

[420sx]

Originally Posted by jpalamar

The first sentence was written with Heroin in mind.. Its too strong, too addictive of a drug for someone to take responsibly without becoming addicted. Given that, however.. if you educate yourself, know the risks, and come to terms with the fact that taking this drug will likely make you a junkie... then I think a person has the right to do so. Not saying its a good decision, but its a decision that should be made by the person taking the drug. Not by the government.

I guess I did contradict myself there... Ill have to rethink my position and get back to you.

I guess I just feel that the government shouldn't have the right to tell me what I can or cant take, even if the outcome would be a disaster.

[rodder]

Originally Posted by 420sx

The first sentence was written with Heroin in mind.. Its too strong, too addictive of a drug for someone to take responsibly without becoming addicted. Given that, however.. if you educate yourself, know the risks, and come to terms with the fact that taking this drug will likely make you a junkie... then I think a person has the right to do so. Not saying its a good decision, but its a decision that should be made by the person taking the drug. Not by the government.

I guess I did contradict myself there... Ill have to rethink my position and get back to you.

I guess I just feel that the government shouldn't have the right to tell me what I can or cant take, even if the outcome would be a disaster.

AMEN!

I'm glad there are some of us here who understand the concept of personal liberty.

The government restricting and regulating substances is nothing more than them saying "the peasants are too stupid and irresponsible to make decisions on their own, so we should make those decisions for them."

Doesn't that bother the rest of you? To be told you are too stupid to make your own decisions and that the government always knows what's best for you?

[igo4bmx]

Originally Posted by rodder

AMEN!

I'm glad there are some of us here who understand the concept of personal liberty.

The government restricting and regulating substances is nothing more than them saying "the peasants are too stupid and irresponsible to make decisions on their own, so we should make those decisions for them."

Doesn't that bother the rest of you? To be told you are too stupid to make your own decisions and that the government always knows what's best for you?

actually steroid use is pretty complicated to do it safely since the word "steroid" covers over 2 dozen different substances.

[Sberk06]

for people who are interested in learning or hearing what users have to say goto elitefitness.com

[igo4bmx]

Originally Posted by Sberk06

for people who are interested in learning or hearing what users have to say goto elitefitness.com

i have a friend who was normally and on some "stuff" he started getting very emotional crying to songs on the radio and ****..

he was a total nutcase but he's getting better during his PCT