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Scapegoat · 08-06-2010, 10:14 AM

so months ago i put on eibach sway bars, front adjustable, rear nonadjustable.

coming off the turn pile around a sharp turn at a decent speed i notice that the outside tire seems to start to jump a little. it makes a noise that sound like it's loosing traction every other second, so a little squeak of rubber on and off and this causes the outside tire to feel as though it is bouncing...

i presume this is due to the sway bar being in the middle stiffness setting and causing the outside spring to compress too much?

the suspension is otherwise stock on this 2010 gt. i'm going to be regreasing the bushing and figured this would be a good time to consider changing the setting of the front.

does this sound like a reasonable cause to the tire not holding through a tight turn like this? or should i look at something else?

HickRocket1258 · 08-06-2010, 03:01 PM

Lower control arms you might want to look at Ken. That will help a lot for your car. Something I plan on doing down the road when I get more power. Or were you talking about the front tires?

**TROLL** · 08-06-2010, 03:23 PM

Its worth experimenting with to see what you prefer

turboman808 · 08-06-2010, 04:13 PM

Sure it's not just your traction control kicking in?

I know on my solstice there are certain turns that the street setting just doesn't do well. Banked exit entrance ramps come to mind.

Put it in the competition mode and see how it reacts. And like you said it could be your sway bar is to stiff compared to the back. The stiffer you make the front you have to do something with the back at well.

Finally stiffer front sway bar causes more under steer. This can cause the tire to kinda hop I guess but it doesn't sound like you went crazy with the settings.

Chris B. · 08-06-2010, 05:28 PM

You sure what tire is it?

It could also be a rear tire and the clutch packs in the diff wearing out.

SovXietday · 08-06-2010, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris B.

You sure what tire is it?

It could also be a rear tire and the clutch packs in the diff wearing out.

What the eff did Ford put clutchpacks in a rear diff for?

thunder_lizard · 08-06-2010, 09:07 PM

I had a similar issue when I first put the Whiteline adjustables on my Rex; with the rear bar at the stiffest setting, it would lift a wheel in hard corners. Turned out I was overwhelming the stock springs, setting it down a notch improved things dramatically...

sean3 · 08-06-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SovXietday

What the eff did Ford put clutchpacks in a rear diff for?

Because it's a clutch type diff?

I doubt it's the swaybar. Are you sure it's the front tire?

mckpat03 · 08-06-2010, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris B.

You sure what tire is it?

It could also be a rear tire and the clutch packs in the diff wearing out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sean3

Because it's a clutch type diff?

I doubt it's the swaybar. Are you sure it's the front tire?

These.

2001teg · 08-08-2010, 01:17 AM

Did you by any chance put strut bars on recently? I just put a front strut bar and rear strut bar on my car and around certain turn the tires scream.

GmFwd · 08-08-2010, 02:06 PM

A sway bar should not cause a wheel to hop. That sounds like a strut, stab control, or tire issue. Its really hard to tell without seeing it or feeling it though.

JankyS13 · 08-08-2010, 02:17 PM

speaking of my 240, when I first put my coilovers on, I had them to stiff adn when I tried to slide my front end use to bounce around turns, So I loosened them up and then it was smooth sailing from there.

Since I don't know what all is on your car. doa solid and list your complete suspension setup.

Scapegoat · 08-10-2010, 04:18 PM

def feels like it's coming from the front and outside tire. sway bars are the only suspension upgrade thus far. i'd love to go all out w/ shocks, springs, control arms, etc, but dont have the money w/ trying to save for a house.

i suppose i can turn off the traction control and stability control and see what happens tomorrow on my way in.

it's def not a hop, i don't think the tire ever fully comes off the ground. it's just kind of a... stuttering feeling.

08-06-2010, 10:14 AM	#1
Scapegoat TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stop looking at my gold Member #1208 iTrader: (1)	is my front swaybar too stiff? so months ago i put on eibach sway bars, front adjustable, rear nonadjustable. coming off the turn pile around a sharp turn at a decent speed i notice that the outside tire seems to start to jump a little. it makes a noise that sound like it's loosing traction every other second, so a little squeak of rubber on and off and this causes the outside tire to feel as though it is bouncing... i presume this is due to the sway bar being in the middle stiffness setting and causing the outside spring to compress too much? the suspension is otherwise stock on this 2010 gt. i'm going to be regreasing the bushing and figured this would be a good time to consider changing the setting of the front. does this sound like a reasonable cause to the tire not holding through a tight turn like this? or should i look at something else?

08-06-2010, 03:01 PM	#2
HickRocket1258 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2005 Location: West Chester, PA Member #415 iTrader: (0)	Lower control arms you might want to look at Ken. That will help a lot for your car. Something I plan on doing down the road when I get more power. Or were you talking about the front tires? __________________ -Rob Just a mustang that's lowered.....that's about it. Work harder....Millions on welfare depend on you!

08-06-2010, 09:07 PM	#7
thunder_lizard Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Perkasie, Pennsylvania Member #8239 My Ride: '86 VW JettaR.I.P., '02 V*Star 650 Classic, '96 Honda Civic iTrader: (0)	I had a similar issue when I first put the Whiteline adjustables on my Rex; with the rear bar at the stiffest setting, it would lift a wheel in hard corners. Turned out I was overwhelming the stock springs, setting it down a notch improved things dramatically... __________________ "What made it such a sensation, was its' fabulous engine...twenty-seven litres of supercharged Rolls Royce V-12 - The Merlin..."

08-08-2010, 02:06 PM	#11
GmFwd Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hatfield Pa, West Philly/Drexel Member #7981 My Ride: S15 DD, srt4 drift missile iTrader: (0)	A sway bar should not cause a wheel to hop. That sounds like a strut, stab control, or tire issue. Its really hard to tell without seeing it or feeling it though. __________________ Don't forget kiddies, japan has fanboys too

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08-06-2010, 04:13 PM	#4
turboman808 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: North Jersey Member #5285 iTrader: (0)	Sure it's not just your traction control kicking in? I know on my solstice there are certain turns that the street setting just doesn't do well. Banked exit entrance ramps come to mind. Put it in the competition mode and see how it reacts. And like you said it could be your sway bar is to stiff compared to the back. The stiffer you make the front you have to do something with the back at well. Finally stiffer front sway bar causes more under steer. This can cause the tire to kinda hop I guess but it doesn't sound like you went crazy with the settings.

08-06-2010, 05:28 PM	#5
Chris B. Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Lehigh Valley Member #14208 My Ride: is Sonic Blue iTrader: (0)	You sure what tire is it? It could also be a rear tire and the clutch packs in the diff wearing out.

08-08-2010, 01:17 AM	#10
2001teg Tri-State Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Member #7004 My Ride: 2001 Integra GSR/Type-R iTrader: (0)	Did you by any chance put strut bars on recently? I just put a front strut bar and rear strut bar on my car and around certain turn the tires scream.

08-08-2010, 02:17 PM	#12
JankyS13 Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Dec 2009 Member #15373 My Ride: 91.S13.KA-T iTrader: (1)	speaking of my 240, when I first put my coilovers on, I had them to stiff adn when I tried to slide my front end use to bounce around turns, So I loosened them up and then it was smooth sailing from there. Since I don't know what all is on your car. doa solid and list your complete suspension setup.

08-10-2010, 04:18 PM	#13
Scapegoat TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stop looking at my gold Member #1208 iTrader: (1)	def feels like it's coming from the front and outside tire. sway bars are the only suspension upgrade thus far. i'd love to go all out w/ shocks, springs, control arms, etc, but dont have the money w/ trying to save for a house. i suppose i can turn off the traction control and stability control and see what happens tomorrow on my way in. it's def not a hop, i don't think the tire ever fully comes off the ground. it's just kind of a... stuttering feeling.