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JSpecV03 · 06-10-2010, 06:07 PM

yep just like the title says, i might be buying my frist honda. since im on a budget and not looking to spend crazy amounts of money, this offer came up recently and im debating on taking it. ive seen the car, but never really had a chance to look it over. currently, its a 91 si model, sitting on some brand of coils, 15" steelies, red paint but the doors have been swapped and are silver, so i would paint them red to match the car. and it has currently a d16z6 single slammer in it. so now the fun begins, what motor to swap in? im definetly thinking an all motor B series, but in what form? im torn between doing an ls/vtec, gsr b18c1, or crazy b20b swap? what would you guys reconmend and why?
thanks for the input.

trista · 06-10-2010, 06:50 PM

Efs are endless with swaps. Do something awesome like an h22 head with h23 block orrr f20 for rwd lol.

Foolinaround · 06-10-2010, 07:07 PM

f20c or K series w/nitrous.

JSpecV03 · 06-10-2010, 07:09 PM

hmmmmm good ideas, idk i was thinking of keeping it simple, like an ls/vtec with type r cams, and type r trans and callin it day. or boosting the single cammer in it now.
im on a buget and dont wanna break the bank

Foolinaround · 06-10-2010, 07:10 PM

you can build a fast D for cheap! do it!

sleeper15 · 06-10-2010, 07:20 PM

you want simple and fairly cheap, just do b18c1 swap. or, just boost the d16

JSpecV03 · 06-10-2010, 07:22 PM

im thinking boosting the d16z6 in the car now might be the best bet. sov's ek is boosted on a d16z6 and its retarded fast.

sundaybikes · 06-10-2010, 07:36 PM

yeah a built/boosted d-series can be done fairly cheap. If you want to get a little bit more original/creative then supercharge an mildly-built ls

sleeper15 · 06-10-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JSpecV03

im thinking boosting the d16z6 in the car now might be the best bet. sov's ek is boosted on a d16z6 and its retarded fast.

i had a issue of Project car magazine, in which they raced a ef with a b16 swap vs a crx with the d16 from the EF, and they did a junk yard turbo setup on the crx.

in the end, the crx beat the b16 ef is a drag race. it also put out more power and torque.

so, i voted for the boosted d-series, then a b18c1 a close second.

whitemike317 · 06-10-2010, 08:03 PM

booosted b series :D

RSX Type-Slow · 06-10-2010, 11:00 PM

i'm in the same boat. I just recently bought a 91 dx with a stock motor with blown valve springs and rings. burns oil like a mofo so i'm getting another stock motor. Turbo is a definate possibility. Basically any motor you put in the car will make it faster with little strain on the pocket.

DPancoast · 06-11-2010, 01:07 AM

single cam ftw... i mean cmon... look at Aarons car!

boostjunky · 06-11-2010, 08:57 AM

Boost the current D cheap. When that pops, get nuts. I like the LS S/C idea.

JDMTyler3326 · 06-12-2010, 08:46 AM

LSV or GSR

tr4c3 · 06-12-2010, 09:06 AM

Boosted LS. Cheap and efficient. Or boost the z6, great little motor.

gsnar · 06-13-2010, 10:22 PM

RDseX swap!

JSpecV03 · 06-14-2010, 01:06 AM

these are really good ideas guys, im liking that s/c ls idea.

TalonTsi97 · 06-14-2010, 01:18 AM

Honestly for a basic swap I'd just go GSR with bolt ons & be done with it. Try not to make it a big project, have it reliable, fun, & just drive it!
I'm not crazy knowledgeable on Honda's but obviously there pretty simple and in this situation I'd just go with a tried & true setup that is fun with the least amount of headaches or possible problems while still swapping it to gain instant performance.

Yes SiR · 06-14-2010, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleeper15

i had a issue of Project car magazine, in which they raced a ef with a b16 swap vs a crx with the d16 from the EF, and they did a junk yard turbo setup on the crx.

in the end, the crx beat the b16 ef is a drag race. it also put out more power and torque.

so, i voted for the boosted d-series, then a b18c1 a close second.

He gave me this mag; I'm planning a junkyard turbo for my CRX. It's a great article.

I'd personally go for a boosted z6, or a DOHC ZC swap. With the ZC, you get pretty much the same performance of the B16, but without the "headache" of the D to B swap. And both options are reasonably priced.

If I were to go B and didn't care about money, I'd go LS/VTEC. But, on a budget, the LS motor is more than enough to pull you around.

PAFirefighter11 · 06-14-2010, 10:30 AM

I was about to type "waiting for Trista" and realized she had the first reply.. LOL..

06-10-2010, 06:07 PM	#1
JSpecV03 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lansdale, Pa Member #6345 My Ride: 2006 Acura TSX,1996 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4x4 4.0, and cammed out Spec V with a blown motor. iTrader: (1)	Might be picking up a 91 EF hatch, ideas for motor swap/build yep just like the title says, i might be buying my frist honda. since im on a budget and not looking to spend crazy amounts of money, this offer came up recently and im debating on taking it. ive seen the car, but never really had a chance to look it over. currently, its a 91 si model, sitting on some brand of coils, 15" steelies, red paint but the doors have been swapped and are silver, so i would paint them red to match the car. and it has currently a d16z6 single slammer in it. so now the fun begins, what motor to swap in? im definetly thinking an all motor B series, but in what form? im torn between doing an ls/vtec, gsr b18c1, or crazy b20b swap? what would you guys reconmend and why? thanks for the input. __________________ 1996 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4x4 4.0 work horse 2003 Nissan Sentra Se-R Spec V, needs a motor. 2006 Acura TSX, soon to be low and slow. Every Nasty Vehical Illustrates Our Useless Spending

06-10-2010, 07:07 PM	#3
Foolinaround TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: McGuire AFB Member #9448 My Ride: 2016 GTI SE w/PP/Boeing C-17 Globemaster III iTrader: (2)	f20c or K series w/nitrous. __________________ -John C-17 Loadmaster DenOfDebauchery

06-10-2010, 07:09 PM	#4
JSpecV03 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lansdale, Pa Member #6345 My Ride: 2006 Acura TSX,1996 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4x4 4.0, and cammed out Spec V with a blown motor. iTrader: (1)	hmmmmm good ideas, idk i was thinking of keeping it simple, like an ls/vtec with type r cams, and type r trans and callin it day. or boosting the single cammer in it now. im on a buget and dont wanna break the bank __________________ 1996 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4x4 4.0 work horse 2003 Nissan Sentra Se-R Spec V, needs a motor. 2006 Acura TSX, soon to be low and slow. Every Nasty Vehical Illustrates Our Useless Spending Last edited by JSpecV03; 06-10-2010 at 07:11 PM.

06-10-2010, 07:10 PM	#5
Foolinaround TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: McGuire AFB Member #9448 My Ride: 2016 GTI SE w/PP/Boeing C-17 Globemaster III iTrader: (2)	you can build a fast D for cheap! do it! __________________ -John C-17 Loadmaster DenOfDebauchery

06-10-2010, 07:20 PM	#6
sleeper15 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Moscow, PA Member #14620 My Ride: 08 Civic Mugen SI, 08 S2000 CR iTrader: (0)	you want simple and fairly cheap, just do b18c1 swap. or, just boost the d16 __________________ 2000 Dodge Durango R/T - Going bye bye soon 2009 Acura TL SH-AWD - Daily pimp mobile 2008 Honda S2000 CR - Fanboy toy To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

06-10-2010, 07:22 PM	#7
JSpecV03 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lansdale, Pa Member #6345 My Ride: 2006 Acura TSX,1996 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4x4 4.0, and cammed out Spec V with a blown motor. iTrader: (1)	im thinking boosting the d16z6 in the car now might be the best bet. sov's ek is boosted on a d16z6 and its retarded fast. __________________ 1996 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4x4 4.0 work horse 2003 Nissan Sentra Se-R Spec V, needs a motor. 2006 Acura TSX, soon to be low and slow. Every Nasty Vehical Illustrates Our Useless Spending

06-10-2010, 07:36 PM	#8
sundaybikes Tri-State Addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 215 Member #8522 My Ride: is red iTrader: (1)	yeah a built/boosted d-series can be done fairly cheap. If you want to get a little bit more original/creative then supercharge an mildly-built ls

06-10-2010, 08:03 PM	#10
whitemike317 Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Jan 2009 Member #10617 My Ride: dsm iTrader: (0)	booosted b series :D

06-10-2010, 11:00 PM	#11
RSX Type-Slow Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: D-town Member #5868 My Ride: 99' Civic Si iTrader: (1)	i'm in the same boat. I just recently bought a 91 dx with a stock motor with blown valve springs and rings. burns oil like a mofo so i'm getting another stock motor. Turbo is a definate possibility. Basically any motor you put in the car will make it faster with little strain on the pocket. __________________ -Tim Dropped and swapped Civic Si

06-11-2010, 08:57 AM	#13
boostjunky Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lehigh Valley Member #5261 My Ride: 1993 D27, 1994 D22A, 2004 CS7A iTrader: (0)	Boost the current D cheap. When that pops, get nuts. I like the LS S/C idea.

06-12-2010, 08:46 AM	#14
JDMTyler3326 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Around Member #9917 My Ride: ^ iTrader: (0)	LSV or GSR

06-13-2010, 10:22 PM	#16
gsnar Tri-State Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: 215 Member #14523 My Ride: piece of **ing ** honda. its slow junk and ugly. no one likes it i should just get a v8 iTrader: (0)	RDseX swap!

06-14-2010, 01:06 AM	#17
JSpecV03 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lansdale, Pa Member #6345 My Ride: 2006 Acura TSX,1996 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4x4 4.0, and cammed out Spec V with a blown motor. iTrader: (1)	these are really good ideas guys, im liking that s/c ls idea. __________________ 1996 Jeep Cherokee Sport 4x4 4.0 work horse 2003 Nissan Sentra Se-R Spec V, needs a motor. 2006 Acura TSX, soon to be low and slow. Every Nasty Vehical Illustrates Our Useless Spending

06-14-2010, 01:18 AM	#18
TalonTsi97 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jan 2005 Member #136 My Ride: 1997 Eagle Talon iTrader: (21)	Honestly for a basic swap I'd just go GSR with bolt ons & be done with it. Try not to make it a big project, have it reliable, fun, & just drive it! I'm not crazy knowledgeable on Honda's but obviously there pretty simple and in this situation I'd just go with a tried & true setup that is fun with the least amount of headaches or possible problems while still swapping it to gain instant performance. __________________ 1997 Eagle Talon Tsi To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Updated weekly with Dyno, Track, AutoX, Street, and Event videos. Big updates coming soon! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

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