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Old 07-26-2008, 01:11 AM   #1
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Heres the deal. I need your help finding a nissan gtr that doesn't have a ridiculous markup. Why? Because you are a fool if you pay 20,000 over sticker like some are selling for. So if any of you guys help find me a GT-R that is selling for what the car is really worth then in exchange once broken in we'll take you for a nice little test drive..Hell you can also get a drive in the m5 if you want.
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:40 AM   #2
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I work at a Nissan dealership... theres no way even if hell freezes over that the owner of woodbury nissan would let any of our 5 GT-R's go for sticker price that we're going to be getting... besides.. all of them are already sold for sticker +ALOT... I doubt if there are any (American) GT-R's of the first batch that are unsold... as far as i know they are all pre ordered and leaving pretty much as soon as they are delivered
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Old 07-26-2008, 06:08 AM   #3
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Heres the deal. I need your help finding a nissan gtr that doesn't have a ridiculous markup. Why? Because you are a fool if you pay 20,000 over sticker like some are selling for. So if any of you guys help find me a GT-R that is selling for what the car is really worth then in exchange once broken in we'll take you for a nice little test drive..Hell you can also get a drive in the m5 if you want.
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Old 07-26-2008, 08:43 AM   #4
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I don't think the markup will go down with the following years either if nissan does what they said they would, and that is making it a limited run and a limited number a year.
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Oneil Nissan in Warminster is getting 110K for the GTRs.

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What's your plan, if you do find one? Buy and then sell it with an additional 20-30k on top?
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:16 AM   #7
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Did anyone read Car and Driver? Nissan lied! The GT-R isnt even fast. It ran a 12.6 NOT a 11.8. Its not worth 80k!
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Old 07-26-2008, 11:18 AM   #8
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What's your plan, if you do find one? Buy and then sell it with an additional 20-30k on top?
Nope. Its going to be a test car for our buisness CarbonWerkz...and my partners daily driver.


There is no way in hell we are paying over sticker and near 100k for a f'in nissan
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Nope. Its going to be a test car for our buisness CarbonWerkz...and my partners daily driver.


There is no way in hell we are paying over sticker and near 100k for a f'in nissan
Well, I can look in KS and MO to see if there are any crazy mid-westerners paying over sticker. Actually, I think I remember one of the managers onsite at this client being friends with a Nissan salesman...hmmm....
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Did anyone read Car and Driver? Nissan lied! The GT-R isnt even fast. It ran a 12.6 NOT a 11.8. Its not worth 80k!
No, but I just read Import Tuner's article about it.

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powertrain--OE claimed figures are 480 hp and 430 lb-ft of torque.
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Old 07-26-2008, 12:47 PM   #11
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No, but I just read Import Tuner's article about it.
Your point? The car weighs over 4000 pounds.
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Your point? The car weighs over 4000 pounds.
your point?

that is the only article out of the plenty ive read and watched in where the testers couldnt hit AT LEAST an 11.8 in the 1/4 and 3.5 0-60 time.....one magazine test doenst mean every single one is slow...that particular one maybe...remember each engine is hand built, no 2 motors are gonna be the same....

look at the other reviews out there instead of taking one bad reviews word for it....
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Old 07-26-2008, 12:58 PM   #13
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your point?

that is the only article out of the plenty ive read and watched in where the testers couldnt hit AT LEAST an 11.8 in the 1/4 and 3.5 0-60 time.....one magazine test doenst mean every single one is slow...that particular one maybe...remember each engine is hand built, no 2 motors are gonna be the same....

look at the other reviews out there instead of taking one bad reviews word for it....
LOL!!! so your telling me when i buy a GT-R its a gamble whether i get an 11.8 second car or a 12.6 second car? HILARIOUS.

No, Car and Driver have been doing test since before you were born, they know what they are talking about much better than some Import Tuner. (no offence to Import Tuner). Most of the quarter mile times given were not actual tests, they were estimated figures given to the magazines by Nissan.
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So you're saying is Car and Driver says 12.6 it's 12.6? But if everyone else says otherwise, they're still right?

SpEcRv9's got a point. They are all hand built, so they won't all be the same. I don't know about a .8 second difference, but not everyone is going to be the same.

It also depends on how they're calculating it. You should know that track and dyno numbers aren't the same. The one Import Tuner did was on an AWD dyno with a RWD car. Maybe if they would have actually used a 2-wheel dyno they would have gotten better numbers.
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No i'm saying Car and Driver are the first to actually test the car on their track and not go by what Nissan said it is supposed to run.
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LOL!!! so your telling me when i buy a GT-R its a gamble whether i get an 11.8 second car or a 12.6 second car? HILARIOUS.

No, Car and Driver have been doing test since before you were born, they know what they are talking about much better than some Import Tuner. (no offence to Import Tuner). Most of the quarter mile times given were not actual tests, they were estimated figures given to the magazines by Nissan.
okay dude you win...the GTR is slow...car and driver is the only reliable source out there out of any magazine/video review...did you read this part of the article though?

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And while earlier GT-Rs we’ve tested outpaced everything here, this particular silver example was a relative woofer. It was the only car in the test—and the only GT-R we’ve tested—needing more than four seconds to hit 60 mph and more than 12 seconds to reach the quarter-mile
so how do you explain car and driver saying they've driven GTRs that would beat the z06, 911 gt2 and srt10 acr, and test accordingly to their "claimed" times...it just so happened that this particular one they got for the final test was a "dog"
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Well on that last part i will retract my statement, i actually didn't see that part. Its interesting though. Because a .8 second difference in two cars that are the same is horrible even if they are hand built.
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ill agree that that is completely odd...and would make me very nervous if i was buying one......esp since they dont like to give test drives...
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It also depends on how they're calculating it. You should know that track and dyno numbers aren't the same. The one Import Tuner did was on an AWD dyno with a RWD car. Maybe if they would have actually used a 2-wheel dyno they would have gotten better numbers.
The GT-R is a AWD car it needs a AWD dyno to be dyno'd. It launches in AWD and then reverts to RWD during driving.
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ill agree that that is completely odd...and would make me very nervous if i was buying one......esp since they dont like to give test drives...
Yeah seriously, take ferarri, they hand build on their engines but all their cars leave the factory the exact same. Maybe nissan needs some new engine builders.
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