any1 go to clintons rally thing?

[peteyturbo]

Exactly te reason I would NEVER vote for him..

Originally Posted by zerioustt

id like to see him salute the american flag....o wait he doesnt do that.

[SStealth2k]

I think i would vote for obama, with a name like barack hussein Obama, what could be more american right? you know a president who liked to snort coke and said there was nothing wrong with a little blow if you had the money, a guy who has no plans he just says "change, change" what is he gonna change, hes gonna pull out of iraq so we can bomb Pakistan, thats real great start another war, sad to say but i would rather see hillary in there before him because i know exactly what she would do, Obama makes me scared to death i dont want to see what kindof crap hes gonna pull.

I think everyone needs to research alot more before they go out and vote, or else this country will be in some real trouble

[den9]

i agree with research but u dont know until they are in office, they are all corrupt and just say what wants to be heard, its a crap shoot

[SStealth2k]

Originally Posted by den9

i agree with research but u dont know until they are in office, they are all corrupt and just say what wants to be heard, its a crap shoot

i agree, you cant be a politician without being corrupt or a liar, they can say whatever they want but it doesnt mean they will do it. Its all a game that we have to follow

[Dave]

Originally Posted by den9

wat do u mean he dont salute a flag?

i definetly wouldnt vote for him, and im not sure about hillary, and i dont know nothing about mccain. does any one know when any1 is coming to philly, or have they already come around?

all you really need to know is he survived multiple years in the hanoi hilton

[BradC]

Originally Posted by wrx_snobordr

As usual we agree. The reason I plan to vote for Obama in the primary is because he does not support a mandate for health care. I do not want universal care, but if they are going to fight for it, I prefer a guy who is realistic and admits that some people simply do not want to buy it or just can't afford it.

Of McCain, Obama or Hillary I choose nobody. They all suck and I might sit this one out. It is really depressing to be honest.

Yeah, I'm pretty much with Poolmike and you on this...seems to always happen.

I'm really not a big fan of any of these.

[poolmike]

I really want Ron Paul. Unfortunately, he would never be able to get any of his ideas into action.

[OptiCon]

Originally Posted by poolmike

I really want Ron Paul. Unfortunately, he would never be able to get any of his ideas into action.

Because he can't introduce a political concept without busting through an oval office window wearing a cape and tight pants. He has some great ideas but the guy is a sensationalist.

[rodder]

Originally Posted by den9

i agree with research but u dont know until they are in office, they are all corrupt and just say what wants to be heard, its a crap shoot

look at their previous voting records to see what they're about... oh that's right, Obama doesn't have a voting record.

for those who don't realize it, Obama is a socialist, plain and simple. He wants to decrease our country's military and defense spending... less than a decade after the worst attack on US soil in our country's history. He also wants to completely ban semi-auto firearms and make a federal law prohibiting concealed carry by trained, law-abiding citizens with permits.

He's basically running on the single fact that he's opposed the Iraq war from the beginning and wants to tuck tail and run.

It's quite sad, but I think if it came down to it I'd actually choose Hillary over Obama for pres. This guy is the furthest thing from a patriot we've ever seen as a presidential candidate.

I'm not much of a McCain fan either, but as usual, it's gonna be a "lesser of two evils" vote. At least McCain has some balls. What do you honestly think Obama would do if we were attacked again?

[rodder]

Originally Posted by OptiCon

Because he can't introduce a political concept without busting through an oval office window wearing a cape and tight pants. He has some great ideas but the guy is a sensationalist.

best RP quote ev4r...

I can totally picture him in a cape and tights.

[BradC]

Originally Posted by rodder

look at their previous voting records to see what they're about... oh that's right, Obama doesn't have a voting record.

for those who don't realize it, Obama is a socialist, plain and simple. He wants to decrease our country's military and defense spending... less than a decade after the worst attack on US soil in our country's history. He also wants to completely ban semi-auto firearms and make a federal law prohibiting concealed carry by trained, law-abiding citizens with permits.

He's basically running on the single fact that he's opposed the Iraq war from the beginning and wants to tuck tail and run.

It's quite sad, but I think if it came down to it I'd actually choose Hillary over Obama for pres. This guy is the furthest thing from a patriot we've ever seen as a presidential candidate.

I'm not much of a McCain fan either, but as usual, it's gonna be a "lesser of two evils" vote. At least McCain has some balls. What do you honestly think Obama would do if we were attacked again?

QFT!!

[OptiCon]

Originally Posted by rodder

look at their previous voting records to see what they're about... oh that's right, Obama doesn't have a voting record.

for those who don't realize it, Obama is a socialist, plain and simple.

^THAT.

[SStealth2k]

Originally Posted by rodder

look at their previous voting records to see what they're about... oh that's right, Obama doesn't have a voting record.

for those who don't realize it, Obama is a socialist, plain and simple. He wants to decrease our country's military and defense spending... less than a decade after the worst attack on US soil in our country's history. He also wants to completely ban semi-auto firearms and make a federal law prohibiting concealed carry by trained, law-abiding citizens with permits.

He's basically running on the single fact that he's opposed the Iraq war from the beginning and wants to tuck tail and run.

It's quite sad, but I think if it came down to it I'd actually choose Hillary over Obama for pres. This guy is the furthest thing from a patriot we've ever seen as a presidential candidate.

I'm not much of a McCain fan either, but as usual, it's gonna be a "lesser of two evils" vote. At least McCain has some balls. What do you honestly think Obama would do if we were attacked again?

i couldnt agree with you more, my vote would never go towards someone who would take something away from americans, america is about freedom and what Obama is about is nothing but socialism, and that will hurt our country alot. I also am not much of a mccain fan but i think my vote would have to go with him. And yes we will be attacked again if we pull out of Iraq, we cant just leave the country like that, whats gonna happen to all the Iraqi Soldiers that help are troops, We will see a bunch of be-heading's again. Everyone needs to realize that what Obama is about, and just because he says change doesnt mean good change. My vote will never go toward someone like that espcially if he wont pledge the flag. Everyone needs to stop jumping on the bandwagon and do some research. I want my rights as an American and Obama will take them from us

[wrx_snobordr]

Just a fun little side note. I was down at Philly Int today checking out Glaxo's Gulf Stream 5 jet. The thing is insane, but when we were sitting on the pad Bubba got out of another jet and into a waiting motorcade. It was kind of cool to see all the secrete service people and the treatment people like that get. He had 4 blacked out SUV's to go with the numerous cop cars.

[den9]

Is obamas name really hussein? I thought that was a joke. Hopefully he don't win, he would be worse than bush.

[The Captain]

his middle name is Hussein. And his last name is Obama. It just seems like a blatant sign that he probably isn't the right dude in office.

[agoodall]

not sure who will get my vote, but i saw this on another forum and it makes me think that Clinton's should not hold high powered office

Dead Men Don't Talk


The following is a list of dead people connected with Bill Clinton:


-James McDougal Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

-Vince Foster Former White House councelor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

-Ron Brown Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investi-gation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

-C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

-Paul Tulley Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

-Ed Willey Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

-Jerry Parks Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

-James Bunch Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

-James Wilson Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

-Kathy Ferguson Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

-Bill Shelton Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fiancee.

-Gandy Baugh Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

-Florence Martin Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.

-Suzanne Coleman Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

-Paula Grober Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

-Danny Casolaro Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

-Paul Wilcher Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

-Jon Parnell Walker Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

-Barbara Wise Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

-Charles Meissner Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

-Dr. Stanley Heard Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

-Barry Seal Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.

-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

-Stanley Huggins Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

-Hershell Friday Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

-Kevin Ives & Don Henry Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. Controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.


THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
- Keith Coney Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck July, 1988.

- Keith McMaskle Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

- Gregory Collins Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

-Jeff Rhodes He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

-James Milan Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.

-Jordan Kettleson Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

-Richard Winters Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989


THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan

[05suby]

Originally Posted by poolmike

I didn't think our choices could get worse than last election....and then we ended up with Clinton, Hussein, and McCain.

McCain at least earned his title. That is the only good thing I can say about him. Other than that, it will be the same old crap we have had for years.

The two liberal clowns have the usual 'great ideas' with no real game plan. I want to punch anyone who thinks 'universal healthcare' is a good idea.

they all suck and always will suck.

Originally Posted by SStealth2k

I think i would vote for obama, with a name like barack hussein Obama, what could be more american right? you know a president who liked to snort coke and said there was nothing wrong with a little blow if you had the money, a guy who has no plans he just says "change, change" what is he gonna change, hes gonna pull out of iraq so we can bomb Pakistan, thats real great start another war, sad to say but i would rather see hillary in there before him because i know exactly what she would do, Obama makes me scared to death i dont want to see what kindof crap hes gonna pull.

I think everyone needs to research alot more before they go out and vote, or else this country will be in some real trouble

this country is in some real trouble already.

Originally Posted by den9

i agree with research but u dont know until they are in office, they are all corrupt and just say what wants to be heard, its a crap shoot

exactly. i wouldnt vote until there is someone in office that knows what it is like to be poor and have to work for everything. oh and someone who tells the corporations to go **** themselves, but that will never happen.