Confirmed: the E92 M3 is slow as ****...

[doug]

Originally Posted by Bsaint

yeah but its funny because BMW > anything Subaru has to offer

but I do agree with the Koenigsegg ccx is such a more bad ass car.

Tell that to the modded E46 M3 I blew the doors off of a few months ago.

[Bsaint]

Originally Posted by doug

Tell that to the modded E46 M3 I blew the doors off of a few months ago.

I'll tell it to the modded sti we beat last night in an M5 oh and we had 5 people in the car

cough* http://www.bmwf1talk.com/images/gallery/06.jpg

[doug]

haha.. my buddy has a 2002 M5... I love driving that thing. It's soooo mint, too.

[CHAOS]

Originally Posted by Bsaint

yeah but its funny because BMW > anything Subaru has to offer

but I do agree with the Koenigsegg ccx is such a more bad ass car.

lol good one.

[doug]

Last time I checked.. wasn't Subaru's AWD system rated one of the best in the industry?

[CHAOS]

lets not get into a pissing match...

[doug]

I got a full bladder, dude.

But yeah.. you're right.. I should know already that euro cars are better than everything else in the world, right?? haha...

[ozthunder]

Originally Posted by zerioustt

Veyron is sex!

Onebadgoat I need your avatars' link please.

zerious- http://www.nagtroc.com/gallery/


And btw, I stand by it...so to get back on topic:


Veyron > *

Edit: When was the last time BMW won an F1 championship? I say this b/c posting that picture is neat and all, but lest we kid, unless its a Ferrari, Renault, and McLaren, it really doesn't pan out too well. That and Heidfeld really hasn't thrust himself into any sort of top echelon.

[doug]

How does the W-16 work? That seems whack...

[ozthunder]

Well, I don't quite know...but..

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/bugatti.htm

[doug]

hahahaha.. I was just about to go to HSW.com.. lol.

[ozthunder]

lol..I saw it earlier.

It's just an amazing thing..it truly is. Def my fave supercar..even though i'm still partial to those old vector's lol

[doug]

I understand your opinion.. I think it's an amazing car too.. I'm more of a fan of more versatile sports cars, like a McLaren or Zonda.. etc.

[ozthunder]

Oh yea..those cars would certainly be awesome. Hell, i'd pick an F40 too. Those cars..especially the LM...beautiful machines.

But this thing defies physics.

[doug]

hahaha.. yeah seriously, the braking on that thing is wild. What are the specs on the new M3?

[ozthunder]

I dig BMW's, especially that new 1 series, but the M3 should have done more against Audi's awesome leap. I think it's a shame..most mag articles agree with a lot of those aspects (but many love BMW too, and that's ok in my book sometimes). I'd rather an RS4..or a C63..but it's all what you want, ya know.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/3...-M3-Coupe.html

http://www.supercars.net/cars/3766.html

[doug]

I'm sure the M3 will mod well, as always though :P The 1 series rocks too.

[ozthunder]

Yea it obviously will, they always do. Reference my former thread on the 1 series/E30 for my thoughts.

BTW, I think my title worked lol.

But yea..back on topic...

[ozthunder]

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Previews

Gordon Murray, designer of the McLaren F1 (which for many years was the fastest production car ever built) said the following about the Bugatti Veyron in UK auto magazine evo during its development period:

"The most pointless exercise on the planet has got to be this four-wheel-drive 1000 horsepower Bugatti. I think it’s incredibly childish this thing people have about just one element—top speed, standing kilometer or 0-60. It’s about as narrow minded as you can get as a car designer to pick on one element. It’s like saying we’re going to beat the original Mini because we’re going to make a car 10 mph faster on its top speed—but it's two feet longer and 200 kilos heavier. That’s not car designing—that just reeks of a company who are paranoid."

Murray was impressed with the Veyron after he test drove one, but still apprehensive about it in an article he wrote for Road and Track magazine[7].

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After the car had reached production, Murray went on to write an article for another UK auto magazine, Top Gear, retracting a lot of his past criticism of the car.

"One really good thing, and I simply never expected this, is that it does change direction. It hardly feels its weight. Driving it on a circuit I expected a sack of cement, but you can really throw it at tight chicanes."

He also declared in the article that: "The braking is phenomenal, the primary ride and body control are good too" and "It's a huge achievement."[citation needed]

The trend of backtracking on negative comments about the Veyron continued when prominent UK car show host Jeremy Clarkson declared on Top Gear that it was "The best car ever made" after initially saying it was ridiculous and would never exist.[8] He would later extend this by saying he would spend the night with British reality TV star Jade Goody (whom Clarkson strongly dislikes) to get his hands on one.[citation needed]

Additionally, Clarkson described the car as "Utterly, stunningly, mind blowingly, jaw droppingly brilliant" and "a triumph for lunacy over common sense".[9]

The Veyron was proclaimed the Top Gear Magazine Car of the Year for 2005 along with the Toyota Aygo, Peugeot 107 and Citroën C1.

The Veyron was also declared the Grand Award winner for the Autotech category of 2006 by Popular Science magazine.

BTW, for those who don't know...Murray designed the McLaren F1.

[CHAOS]

see even murray conceded