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Old 09-20-2007, 10:10 PM   #401
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I might have to look into one of those. I filed for the FL non-res CCW. So anytime I go into PA or one of the legal states I want something comfortable for the G26. I wonder about VA's open carry law and non-resident permits.

Maybe Ill hold off on going til alittle later then.
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:32 PM   #402
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Thanks to my local range's ammo shipment not coming in they got the ok to sell these at cheap prices..



I had plenty of range ammo but I grabbed some boxes of it for home since it available.
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I was over my buddy's house and final got a pic of his gun. He brought it out so we could cycle through the new APTIC rounds that he bought. We should be going to the range this week to blow **** up with it

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I was over my buddy's house and final got a pic of his gun. He brought it out so we could cycle through the new APTIC rounds that he bought. We should be going to the range this week to blow **** up with it

Is he by chance Reef Blue on other forums? He took it out shooting last weekend, doesn't live far from here.
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I dont know whats greater. The gun or Bobby Hill.

.50 cal BMG?
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Wow, some of you guys are ready for war.

I've been looking to purchase a gun for home protection so I went into a gun shop the other week and told the guy behind the counter what I was in the market for. Originally a friend of mine, who has been into guns he whole life, told me to get a handgun but the guy behind the counter suggested a mosberg 20 gauge shot gun instead for home protection. It was pretty cheap @ only $300.00 and he said that the accuracy with a hand gun is like around 19%, and that was for people who shoot weekly. With a shot gun you won't miss, just point and shoot, not to mention the sound it will make when loading a round is more then enough to scare off a would be thief w/o even having to use it.

I don't plan on carrying anything, my biggest fear about that is if I have a gun I will use it in the wrong situation and wind up in jail. I only want it for home protection. There are no kids in my house but I would like my GF to be able to use whatever I buy and she is a little woman so it can't be something BIG that she can't handle or will knock her on her ass. What advise would you give to someone in my position?
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Wow, some of you guys are ready for war.

I've been looking to purchase a gun for home protection so I went into a gun shop the other week and told the guy behind the counter what I was in the market for. Originally a friend of mine, who has been into guns he whole life, told me to get a handgun but the guy behind the counter suggested a mosberg 20 gauge shot gun instead for home protection. It was pretty cheap @ only $300.00 and he said that the accuracy with a hand gun is like around 19%, and that was for people who shoot weekly. With a shot gun you won't miss, just point and shoot, not to mention the sound it will make when loading a round is more then enough to scare off a would be thief w/o even having to use it.

I don't plan on carrying anything, my biggest fear about that is if I have a gun I will use it in the wrong situation and wind up in jail. I only want it for home protection. There are no kids in my house but I would like my GF to be able to use whatever I buy and she is a little woman so it can't be something BIG that she can't handle or will knock her on her ass. What advise would you give to someone in my position?
The only problem with a shotgun is its long for close quarters. I dont think you ever have to worry about a drawn out gun battle running around the house tho. A pistol is way better for someone trained and can hit what they they intend to hit. I would just get a beowolf 50.

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^^ get a mossberg 500, you can put a pistol grip on it and it cuts the size down considerably. i had one and loved it, there cheap as hell too.

i was at targetmaster yesterday shooting the glock 19 and .45, my buddy was shooting and i was watching the guy in the lane next to ours. he was using a rented gun and couldnt figure out how to get it to fire. WITH THE GUN LOADED he turns it sideways, finger on trigger, and starts ****ing with it. the gun went off hitting the wall after passing 8 lanes. lucky for this guy the range officer wasnt in the booth. ****ing retard.
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The only problem with a shotgun is its long for close quarters. I dont think you ever have to worry about a drawn out gun battle running around the house tho. A pistol is way better for someone trained and can hit what they they intend to hit. I would just get a beowolf 50.

http://www.gunblast.com/50Beowulf.htm
are you kidding, thats a damn assult weapon

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^^ get a mossberg 500, you can put a pistol grip on it and it cuts the size down considerably. i had one and loved it, there cheap as hell too.
how does the 500 compare to the 20 gauge I was looking at?
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Is he by chance Reef Blue on other forums? He took it out shooting last weekend, doesn't live far from here.
Nah thats not him. He doesnt doesnt have time to do the online forums. If we're not working he is either playing with his guns or his mustang. he has a fairly extensive assault rifle collection
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WITH THE GUN LOADED he turns it sideways, finger on trigger, and starts ****ing with it.
WTF that guy should have shoot him self before he shoots anyone else soon.

YES ASSAULT RIFLES!!!! Remember dude im a Marine, we go way overboard on **** like that. Plus i was just say'n what "I" would buy. Its like an M-16, just with a bigger kick. hahahahaha (plus accuracy)
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how does the 500 compare to the 20 gauge I was looking at?
ive never shot a 20 gauge, i mean the 500 is a 12 gauge, it has a good amount of kick and im not sure if your girl could handle it but as far as stopping power goes its on point.


if you really want neighborhood protection.....


thats compared to a 12 gauge...
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Nah thats not him. He doesnt doesnt have time to do the online forums. If we're not working he is either playing with his guns or his mustang. he has a fairly extensive assault rifle collection
Odd, because this guy has a mustang and the same gun, as well as went shooting this past weekend.

http://www.pafoa.org/forum/gun-pictu...ill-works.html

Hopefully I can make (no, I WILL make it) the next group shoot to pay for ammo and try it once or twice!

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Wow, some of you guys are ready for war.

I've been looking to purchase a gun for home protection so I went into a gun shop the other week and told the guy behind the counter what I was in the market for. Originally a friend of mine, who has been into guns he whole life, told me to get a handgun but the guy behind the counter suggested a mosberg 20 gauge shot gun instead for home protection. It was pretty cheap @ only $300.00 and he said that the accuracy with a hand gun is like around 19%, and that was for people who shoot weekly. With a shot gun you won't miss, just point and shoot, not to mention the sound it will make when loading a round is more then enough to scare off a would be thief w/o even having to use it.

I don't plan on carrying anything, my biggest fear about that is if I have a gun I will use it in the wrong situation and wind up in jail. I only want it for home protection. There are no kids in my house but I would like my GF to be able to use whatever I buy and she is a little woman so it can't be something BIG that she can't handle or will knock her on her ass. What advise would you give to someone in my position?
19% accuracy? What in the world kind of figures are they?
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has anyone fired/own a beretta elite II?? im looking to get one and want some input before i purchase.
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I haven't shot them, only held them and contemplated.

Big gun, big price tag, still an overpriced Beretta. I'm sure it's accurate, and do to the size, very controllable. But, it's going to have a problem every now and then. There are just so many BETTER guns on the market for that price, but if I recall, you were in the Air Force, and are probably used to Beretta's.
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nope no military background for me. do you have a sugestion as to what handgun to get? i want something bigger, and with more stopping power than a 9mm. but not as big as a .45 im thinking a .40 is perfect. i had a taurus millenium .40 and hated it. although i liked the way it looked. id also like a gun with a rail interface. and as dumb as it sounds something in aluminum finish. im open to any ideas and would like to keep it around 800 dollars but preferably less...
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nope no military background for me. do you have a sugestion as to what handgun to get? i want something bigger, and with more stopping power than a 9mm. but not as big as a .45 im thinking a .40 is perfect. i had a taurus millenium .40 and hated it. although i liked the way it looked. id also like a gun with a rail interface. and as dumb as it sounds something in aluminum finish. im open to any ideas and would like to keep it around 800 dollars but preferably less...
When you say aluminum finish, do you mean a stainless slide, or do you mean that you don't want a plastic/polymer gun (want aluminum, I'll assume this is what you're talking about!)?

Best gun under $800 with a stainless slide, rail, and alloy frame might just be the Sig 226. It's right at $800 though, I think the cheapest I have seen them new is about $750.

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