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Buster · 07-14-2007, 11:42 AM

Okay I think nows a good a time as any. Being that I have been professionally detailing for 7 years. Ive come across tons of different products. Ive used them in sooo many different ways. One thing I stand by is that the ordinary shade tree detailer does not need the high end products to obtain an exceptional look.

Proceed....

OMGz Turbo · 07-14-2007, 11:47 AM

Im actually a Ardex nut job...I used to work for Xtreme Auto Detailing, and thats all we ever dealt with.

Buster · 07-14-2007, 11:55 AM

Ardex makes a great product, not too crazy about their glass cleaner. And the compounds turn to dust.

OMGz Turbo · 07-14-2007, 12:01 PM

which glass cleaner? They have 3 different ones and like 10 different compounds

i love their "Speedy" spray for interior's and plastics

http://www.ardexlabs.com/index2.html

CHAOS · 07-14-2007, 12:19 PM

currently im using the pooyboys lineup mainly... with a few others tossed in.. they are working very nicely for me ... however, ive also seen great results from the pinnacle line, the zaino line and the chemical guys line

OMGz Turbo · 07-14-2007, 12:20 PM

i like zaino too, and on metal polishing side...Blue magic, and mothers...But NEVR DULL IS THE ****

CHAOS · 07-14-2007, 12:27 PM

neverdull is ok... ive had great results with NOXON

CHAOS · 07-14-2007, 01:33 PM

fwiw im buying some of this tonite

http://zymol.com/shop/item.asp?PID=1378&scID=25 lol

Buster · 07-14-2007, 03:09 PM

zymol is sick. my dad swears by it.

slobaru · 07-14-2007, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buster

zymol is sick. my dad swears by it.

yeah, It becomes very tiresome when trying to get it off though, and often turns to dust... But looks AMAZING.

CHAOS · 07-14-2007, 03:16 PM

i have the zymol cleaner wax, not a bad product, i also have zymol carbon... which is nice.

enigma · 07-14-2007, 05:56 PM

I've tried zymol, its a nice product, but you can get streaking in the finish, sometimes a real PITA to remove. Great finish tho.
Zaino gave me the best shine, but this was the most labor intensive to use. It did give me the longest lasting, and deepest shine.
For the DD, i am a big fan of meg's products, because they are easy to use, and easy to obtain.

bastid · 07-14-2007, 09:52 PM

My first detail kit was the Pinnacle kit. Have only used Pinnacle products since. I really like the Liquid Souveran wax because it's easy on, easy off and leaves a great shine. Although, I can't speak negatively as I've seen great results with all kinds of products: Turtle Wax ICE, the entire Meguiars lineup, P21S, Zymol, etc.

CleanNeon98 · 07-14-2007, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slobaru

yeah, It becomes very tiresome when trying to get it off though, and often turns to dust... But looks AMAZING.

I put that on just fine...taking it off however was a PITA. I was also looking at diff. waxes today...whats the difference between a cleaner wax and a carnuba wax..also some are liquid and some came in a little tub and were almost 100% solid

ConglomrationAL · 07-15-2007, 08:01 AM

Optimum polishes are the best i've ever used, but they go well with the Edge2k pads that i've been using.
As far as the best polishes that money can buy i'd have to go with Menzerna. Some day i'll buy them, but, $50 for a liter of Final Finish is a little too pricey for me right now.

CleanNeon98 · 07-15-2007, 11:14 AM

Right now here is what I have on the car

1 coat zymol
1 coat mother's power wax
1 coat mother's power wax
1 coat liquid glass polish
1 coat mother's power wax
(this is in the order that i applied them)
i think i might have went overboard

Renegade_ · 07-15-2007, 11:20 AM

I clay barred and waxed my car for the first time ever this friday - I love it. I bought a meguiars kit from autozone and just went to town.

The car is like glass now...

I think I'll throw another layer of wax on since the first layer was a pansy layer... won't hurt.

enigma · 07-15-2007, 11:13 PM

Hey clean, any type of cleaner wax does exactly what the name implies, it strips the paint of all the minor dirt/contaminants, and adds a mix of polish and wax to the finish, good for a one step program, not so good for a multi-step.
Do either a few coats of the liquid glass, followed by a few coats of PURE carnuba wax, like the megs gold glass, or similar. What you want to do it get the paint, as clean as possible, IE claybay, then add a few good coats of polish, then add a few coats of carnuba to "protect" the polish. Polish gives the paint depth, and claity, carnuba gives it that protective shine.

JoshV70 · 07-15-2007, 11:53 PM

Really love my 1Z polishes finished up with P21S wax or Poorboy's EX with Carnauba.

CleanNeon98 · 07-16-2007, 01:41 AM

I read about the Porter Cable 7424 polisher, but im nervous about it...hear it can do more harm than good if used improperly but can also work miracles such as this.

07-14-2007, 11:42 AM	#1
Buster TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Holland Pa Member #449 My Ride: 2008 Mustang GT/CS iTrader: (3)	The Product Debate Okay I think nows a good a time as any. Being that I have been professionally detailing for 7 years. Ive come across tons of different products. Ive used them in sooo many different ways. One thing I stand by is that the ordinary shade tree detailer does not need the high end products to obtain an exceptional look. Proceed.... __________________ III To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-14-2007, 11:47 AM	#2
OMGz Turbo Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ltown Member #3108 My Ride: 01' WS6..That whistles...01' Explorer 5.slow iTrader: (0)	Im actually a Ardex nut job...I used to work for Xtreme Auto Detailing, and thats all we ever dealt with. __________________ loading HATERS.....99% ████████████████] NO ONE CARES ABOUT BEING TTT APPROVED

07-14-2007, 11:55 AM	#3
Buster TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Holland Pa Member #449 My Ride: 2008 Mustang GT/CS iTrader: (3)	Ardex makes a great product, not too crazy about their glass cleaner. And the compounds turn to dust. __________________ III To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-14-2007, 12:01 PM	#4
OMGz Turbo Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ltown Member #3108 My Ride: 01' WS6..That whistles...01' Explorer 5.slow iTrader: (0)	which glass cleaner? They have 3 different ones and like 10 different compounds i love their "Speedy" spray for interior's and plastics http://www.ardexlabs.com/index2.html __________________ loading HATERS.....99% ████████████████] NO ONE CARES ABOUT BEING TTT APPROVED

07-14-2007, 12:20 PM	#6
OMGz Turbo Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ltown Member #3108 My Ride: 01' WS6..That whistles...01' Explorer 5.slow iTrader: (0)	i like zaino too, and on metal polishing side...Blue magic, and mothers...But NEVR DULL IS THE ** __________________ loading HATERS.....99% ████████████████] NO ONE CARES ABOUT BEING TTT APPROVED**

07-14-2007, 12:19 PM	#5
CHAOS TST Ruined My Life! Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2120 My Ride: 1984 Cadillac Brougham iTrader: (1)	currently im using the pooyboys lineup mainly... with a few others tossed in.. they are working very nicely for me ... however, ive also seen great results from the pinnacle line, the zaino line and the chemical guys line

07-14-2007, 12:27 PM	#7
CHAOS TST Ruined My Life! Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2120 My Ride: 1984 Cadillac Brougham iTrader: (1)	neverdull is ok... ive had great results with NOXON

07-14-2007, 01:33 PM	#8
CHAOS TST Ruined My Life! Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2120 My Ride: 1984 Cadillac Brougham iTrader: (1)	fwiw im buying some of this tonite http://zymol.com/shop/item.asp?PID=1378&scID=25 lol

07-14-2007, 03:09 PM	#9
Buster TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Holland Pa Member #449 My Ride: 2008 Mustang GT/CS iTrader: (3)	zymol is sick. my dad swears by it. __________________ III To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-14-2007, 03:16 PM	#11
CHAOS TST Ruined My Life! Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2120 My Ride: 1984 Cadillac Brougham iTrader: (1)	i have the zymol cleaner wax, not a bad product, i also have zymol carbon... which is nice.

07-14-2007, 05:56 PM	#12
enigma Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glenolden ,PA Member #2659 My Ride: Hoopties galore iTrader: (0)	I've tried zymol, its a nice product, but you can get streaking in the finish, sometimes a real PITA to remove. Great finish tho. Zaino gave me the best shine, but this was the most labor intensive to use. It did give me the longest lasting, and deepest shine. For the DD, i am a big fan of meg's products, because they are easy to use, and easy to obtain. __________________ 2001 Dakota Quad Cab, 1996 Ford F250, 1993 Honda Civic, 1991 Eagle Talon, 1970 Plymouth Duster.

07-14-2007, 09:52 PM	#13
bastid Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Member #1732 My Ride: 2008 BMW M3 iTrader: (0)	My first detail kit was the Pinnacle kit. Have only used Pinnacle products since. I really like the Liquid Souveran wax because it's easy on, easy off and leaves a great shine. Although, I can't speak negatively as I've seen great results with all kinds of products: Turtle Wax ICE, the entire Meguiars lineup, P21S, Zymol, etc. __________________ *2008 BMW ///M3 Coupe: Alpine White on Extended Fox Red Novillo Leather Factory Options:* Premium Package : M-DCT : 19" Alloys : Technology Package : Bi-Xenon : Heated Seats : EDC : Premium Audio : iPod/USB Adapter Modifications: APE Performance S65B40 Air Filter : Fabspeed X-pipe : Remus Race Muffler

07-15-2007, 08:01 AM	#15
ConglomrationAL Noob-Jersey Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Newtown Square Member #5354 iTrader: (0)	Optimum polishes are the best i've ever used, but they go well with the Edge2k pads that i've been using. As far as the best polishes that money can buy i'd have to go with Menzerna. Some day i'll buy them, but, $50 for a liter of Final Finish is a little too pricey for me right now.

07-15-2007, 11:14 AM	#16
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Right now here is what I have on the car 1 coat zymol 1 coat mother's power wax 1 coat mother's power wax 1 coat liquid glass polish 1 coat mother's power wax (this is in the order that i applied them) i think i might have went overboard __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

07-15-2007, 11:20 AM	#17
Renegade_ Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: NNJ/NYC Member #1912 My Ride: 1J Swaggon iTrader: (2)	I clay barred and waxed my car for the first time ever this friday - I love it. I bought a meguiars kit from autozone and just went to town. The car is like glass now... I think I'll throw another layer of wax on since the first layer was a pansy layer... won't hurt. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-15-2007, 11:13 PM	#18
enigma Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Glenolden ,PA Member #2659 My Ride: Hoopties galore iTrader: (0)	Hey clean, any type of cleaner wax does exactly what the name implies, it strips the paint of all the minor dirt/contaminants, and adds a mix of polish and wax to the finish, good for a one step program, not so good for a multi-step. Do either a few coats of the liquid glass, followed by a few coats of PURE carnuba wax, like the megs gold glass, or similar. What you want to do it get the paint, as clean as possible, IE claybay, then add a few good coats of polish, then add a few coats of carnuba to "protect" the polish. Polish gives the paint depth, and claity, carnuba gives it that protective shine. __________________ 2001 Dakota Quad Cab, 1996 Ford F250, 1993 Honda Civic, 1991 Eagle Talon, 1970 Plymouth Duster.

07-15-2007, 11:53 PM	#19
JoshV70 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: McGuire AFB, NJ Member #3557 My Ride: 1998 Volvo V70 iTrader: (0)	Really love my 1Z polishes finished up with P21S wax or Poorboy's EX with Carnauba. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 98 Volvo V70 AWD 98 Volvo S70 T5-M

07-16-2007, 01:41 AM	#20
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	I read about the Porter Cable 7424 polisher, but im nervous about it...hear it can do more harm than good if used improperly but can also work miracles such as this. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

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