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TrboChicsRock · 07-05-2007, 03:42 PM

Great article on the testing of wideband units:

http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...tout/index.php

They tested 8 different widebands against each other, Here were the results:

I'm happy to see that my wideband (AEM UEGO) fell into the excellent category under accuracy

Turbo_CitrusEs · 07-05-2007, 03:52 PM

Thanks for posting this, I was always wondering how each one of these compared. Im also glad to see the money I spent on my Innovate unit was well worth it!!!

Silverfc88 · 07-05-2007, 04:23 PM

I don't know how accurate there data was or there testing methods, but I love my PLX M-300 and I've dynoed on different dyno's and I've had the same readouts. I've had mine for for about 4 years and it still reads accurately. The only problem I had with the unit is that 2 of my LED's on the display died recently, but PLX fixed it for free and gave me a whole brand new display. The warranty was only for a year.

Why did they use the old M-300 instead of the SM-AFR+DM-5 anyways?

PLX Devices response to the test.
http://www.plxdevices.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1312

I wouldn't use the chart as a bases to buying a wideband. I mean most of the test was "Subjective". I think all widebands work and do what they are supposed to do. I still plan on buying the new SM-AFR+DM-5 from PLX when I'm ready for it in the DSM.

assault187 · 07-05-2007, 05:09 PM

Nice post, Ive always been more then happy with my AEM peice...

redline · 07-05-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 95nracer

I don't know how accurate there data was or there testing methods, but I love my PLX M-300 and I've dynoed on different dyno's and I've had the same readouts. I've had mine for for about 4 years and it still reads accurately. The only problem I had with the unit is that 2 of my LED's on the display died recently, but PLX fixed it for free and gave me a whole brand new display. The warranty was only for a year.

Why did they use the old M-300 instead of the SM-AFR+DM-5 anyways?

PLX Devices response to the test.
http://www.plxdevices.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1312

I wouldn't use the chart as a bases to buying a wideband. I mean most of the test was "Subjective". I think all widebands work and do what they are supposed to do. I still plan on buying the new SM-AFR+DM-5 from PLX when I'm ready for it in the DSM.

I agree, I can't see them rating a PLX's accuracy as POOR! WTF

Silverfc88 · 07-05-2007, 08:48 PM

Another thread about the independent wideband test.

http://efi101.com/forum/viewtopic.ph...er=asc&start=0

99SL2_Modder · 07-05-2007, 09:59 PM

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AEM
The AEM unit was accurate during our tests, but with no real data logging capability, of limited usefulness for actual tuning. It was average for response time.

Bull****. I can hook it up to my EFC and datalog it that way.

And yeah, FordMuscle is endorsed by Innovate.

redline · 07-05-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 99SL2_Modder

Bull****. I can hook it up to my EFC and datalog it that way.

And yeah, FordMuscle is endorsed by Innovate.

Exactly the AEM is the best "bang for the buck" at $250 and it has a 232 output wire to log with a USB adapter. IMO i't can't be beat for the price and accuracy.

markley02 · 07-06-2007, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by redline

Exactly the AEM is the best "bang for the buck" at $250 and it has a 232 output wire to log with a USB adapter. IMO i't can't be beat for the price and accuracy.

IMO the LC-1 is the best bang for the buck. It's MSRP is $199

RayArroyo · 07-06-2007, 08:32 AM

i despite the aem for anything other than an afr gauge. tuning with it blows.

teh DIRT · 07-06-2007, 08:35 AM

gota love biased tests

I love my zietronix.

poor ease of use and poor software my ass...this logger rocks.

just a random image i have laying around.

Vince@R/TTuning · 07-06-2007, 10:18 AM

the Dynojet software that i have with the dyno uses a Bosch LSU4 sensor, which is what alot of major car manufactuers, motec, and many other wideband controllers use....so i find the fact that it is lower on scale (+/-.75) a lil hard to beleive...not to metion ive compared mine with AEM several times and they are usually within .1-.15 of each other. the biggest downside with the AEM that i have found is that race gas seems to tear them up more then other sensors...

TurboTagTeam · 07-06-2007, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray@turbotek

i despite the aem for anything other than an afr gauge. tuning with it blows.

I agree, disco gauges suck......oh, look at the pretty lights!!!

99SL2_Modder · 07-06-2007, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboTagTeam

I agree, disco gauges suck......oh, look at the pretty lights!!!

Um, they have a digital face too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray@turbotek

i despite the aem for anything other than an afr gauge. tuning with it blows.

No offense, but tuning with an AEM UEGO is so easy it's not funny.

Silverfc88 · 07-06-2007, 05:41 PM

As long as you have a way of logging. Than they are all easy.

RayArroyo · 07-07-2007, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99SL2_Modder

Um, they have a digital face too.

No offense, but tuning with an AEM UEGO is so easy it's not funny.

1st of all the gauge is allways all over the damn place moving and there is no way to control the feedback, also most loggers do not have the aem wideband support. dont get me wrong they work pretty well but they are more of a gauge than a tuning tool to me. i do sell a **** load of them though.

drew · 07-07-2007, 08:01 AM

i love my zeitronix

i can't believe the bad review it got..

99SL2_Modder · 07-07-2007, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray@turbotek

1st of all the gauge is allways all over the damn place moving and there is no way to control the feedback, also most loggers do not have the aem wideband support. dont get me wrong they work pretty well but they are more of a gauge than a tuning tool to me. i do sell a **** load of them though.

I've never had a problem with the gauges skipping like a schoolgirl like that. If it was the old version, they had an issue with them.

TurboTagTeam · 07-07-2007, 01:40 PM

I'v used over 20 of them little bastards on customers cars. THe stupid lights are incredibly anoying. That's why I use a PLX M300 on all my own personal cars. Little anoying lights are useless for tunning, all I'm after is a number.

99SL2_Modder · 07-07-2007, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboTagTeam

I'v used over 20 of them little bastards on customers cars. THe stupid lights are incredibly anoying. That's why I use a PLX M300 on all my own personal cars. Little anoying lights are useless for tunning, all I'm after is a number.

I like both. And it has both. Annoying lights keep me awake.

07-05-2007, 03:42 PM	#1
TrboChicsRock Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Member #152 My Ride: 1998 Eclipse GSX, 2012 WRX Premium iTrader: (1)	Wideband o2 Sensor Shootout Great article on the testing of wideband units: http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2...tout/index.php They tested 8 different widebands against each other, Here were the results: I'm happy to see that my wideband (AEM UEGO) fell into the excellent category under accuracy __________________ - Jessica 1998 Eclipse GSX 11.2 @ 126 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-05-2007, 04:23 PM	#3
Silverfc88 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NorCal Member #126 My Ride: 88 RX7 TII, 2012 WRX hatch iTrader: (5)	I don't know how accurate there data was or there testing methods, but I love my PLX M-300 and I've dynoed on different dyno's and I've had the same readouts. I've had mine for for about 4 years and it still reads accurately. The only problem I had with the unit is that 2 of my LED's on the display died recently, but PLX fixed it for free and gave me a whole brand new display. The warranty was only for a year. Why did they use the old M-300 instead of the SM-AFR+DM-5 anyways? PLX Devices response to the test. http://www.plxdevices.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1312 I wouldn't use the chart as a bases to buying a wideband. I mean most of the test was "Subjective". I think all widebands work and do what they are supposed to do. I still plan on buying the new SM-AFR+DM-5 from PLX when I'm ready for it in the DSM. __________________ formerly 95nracer Instagram @Silverfc88 11.6@123mph Streetport 13bt, Haltech Sprint RE, FIC 1150cc + Delphi 1000cc injectors, Walbro 255, Borg Warner s360 .88, HKS mani, JGS 50mm, Greddy FMIC, HKS Twin Power, AEM water/meth inj

07-05-2007, 05:09 PM	#4
assault187 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Montgomery county Member #2176 My Ride: 97 Mitsubishi Eclipse GST Spyder AWD iTrader: (3)	Nice post, Ive always been more then happy with my AEM peice... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. World record holder for Quickest and Fastest 1/4 mile Spyder, 4 cylinder vert, 1st in 10's, 2.0L 4G63 Holset record, Modified Mag December 2010, Self built, self tuned.

07-05-2007, 08:48 PM	#6
Silverfc88 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NorCal Member #126 My Ride: 88 RX7 TII, 2012 WRX hatch iTrader: (5)	Another thread about the independent wideband test. http://efi101.com/forum/viewtopic.ph...er=asc&start=0 __________________ formerly 95nracer Instagram @Silverfc88 11.6@123mph Streetport 13bt, Haltech Sprint RE, FIC 1150cc + Delphi 1000cc injectors, Walbro 255, Borg Warner s360 .88, HKS mani, JGS 50mm, Greddy FMIC, HKS Twin Power, AEM water/meth inj

07-06-2007, 08:32 AM	#10
RayArroyo Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ALBANY/PHILLY Member #205 My Ride: GTR/RSTI/MDX Sport iTrader: (3)	i despite the aem for anything other than an afr gauge. tuning with it blows. __________________ formerly ray@turbotek

07-06-2007, 10:18 AM	#12
Vince@R/TTuning Vendor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: telford Pa Member #3958 My Ride: the one in the back of the shop iTrader: (2)	the Dynojet software that i have with the dyno uses a Bosch LSU4 sensor, which is what alot of major car manufactuers, motec, and many other wideband controllers use....so i find the fact that it is lower on scale (+/-.75) a lil hard to beleive...not to metion ive compared mine with AEM several times and they are usually within .1-.15 of each other. the biggest downside with the AEM that i have found is that race gas seems to tear them up more then other sensors... __________________ Philadelphia Area's Only Authorized and Factory Trained Pro Tuners for:HONDATA:UPREV:APEXI POWER FC:AEM:COBB:ECUTEK To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Last edited by Vince@R/TTuning; 07-06-2007 at 10:34 AM.

07-06-2007, 05:41 PM	#15
Silverfc88 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NorCal Member #126 My Ride: 88 RX7 TII, 2012 WRX hatch iTrader: (5)	As long as you have a way of logging. Than they are all easy. __________________ formerly 95nracer Instagram @Silverfc88 11.6@123mph Streetport 13bt, Haltech Sprint RE, FIC 1150cc + Delphi 1000cc injectors, Walbro 255, Borg Warner s360 .88, HKS mani, JGS 50mm, Greddy FMIC, HKS Twin Power, AEM water/meth inj

07-07-2007, 08:01 AM	#17
drew Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Broomall, PA Member #2617 My Ride: fuzion & exploder iTrader: (8)	i love my zeitronix i can't believe the bad review it got.. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-07-2007, 01:40 PM	#19
TurboTagTeam Tri-State Post Whore Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cell Block F Member #275 My Ride: constantly changes iTrader: (2)	I'v used over 20 of them little bastards on customers cars. THe stupid lights are incredibly anoying. That's why I use a PLX M300 on all my own personal cars. Little anoying lights are useless for tunning, all I'm after is a number.