Modded SRT-4 just got killed on 7th St by my buddy's 740IL

[ozthunder]

lol..its either BS (like actual BS) or just indicative of the common tuner FATF culture.

[TTsupra911]

Originally Posted by Munky

Where's this 740 from and let me know if he'd like a chance at another "modded srt-4". I'll run him from a roll or a dig tell him to name his race.

BS your car is never running right

[agoodall]

Originally Posted by whitezenki

A post clearly about drivers of SRT-4's



^^Meaning it should be the drivers fault.



Good thing were talkin about both!

But I'll talk cars for you as well:
RWD doesnt mean an automatic win, especially when you weigh 1500 lbs more, and only have an extra 40 hp, a small amount of which you lose in the drivetrain exchange. It would only help off the launch, after traction is found its more of a hinder than advantage in straight light situations, which is what we obviously have here.

This thread still sucks

who said rwd is an automatic win? not me. i just put "rwd v fwd?" and off you went

[agoodall]

Originally Posted by whitezenki

Saying the 740 should win if you give it some room b/c its RWD is senseless,

i never said that either. why do you string all the things i say in such a retarded manner?

[whitezenki]

Originally Posted by agoodall

i never said that either. why do you string all the things i say in such a retarded manner?

really? How did I string anything together, I took one statement, and gave solid reasons of why it was wrong, maybe I interpreted it wrong, but I think most ppl would have taken it the same way.

Originally Posted by agoodall

if the 740iL is in any shape and had a little room to run, that neon would have to be pretty worked over to run with it, fwd v rwd ?

what exactly did you mean by this then?

740...room to run... neon would have to be pretty worked over to run with it... fwd v rwd (as if its the reason) <--its pretty hard to mess that up

seems simple to me? I can understand you didnt mean automatic win, but you definitly thought it was a more likely choice, which it isnt at all

[ozthunder]

Judging by the numbers wiki has (lol)..only 3 of the current 7 series would beat an SRT4 going by the 0-60 times..those being the ones with the bigger 8, the 12, and I think the other has an 8 too. A regular 740 prolly wouldn't have beaten it unless it had stuff done or had a crazy torque curve advantage.

[whitezenki]

Originally Posted by onebadgoat9286

Judging by the numbers wiki has (lol)..only 3 of the current 7 series would beat an SRT4 going by the 0-60 times..those being the ones with the bigger 8, the 12, and I think the other has an 8 too. A regular 740 prolly wouldn't have beaten it unless it had stuff done or had a crazy torque curve advantage.

True, true, but this BMW can't have been a new one even.

Being a 740, its a 4.0L V8, which they stopped producing in 2001. This motor had 282HP, and 295lbs of torque, while weighing in at about 4250 lbs. A stock Srt-4 made from 215-230hp, 245-250lbs of torque, and weighed in at about 2800 lbs.

As Tiny said, a slightly modded Srt-4 would have about 250whp, while the 740 with an estimated 15% drivetrain loss would make only 240whp.

The BMW's 10 LESS whp, and 1400 more lbs means either the Srt-4 wasn't trying, or really sucked at driving. Even a stock Srt-4 prolly dynos at 210whp, but would possibly win due to the additional weight of the BMW.

As Tiny also said, traction is an issue with the Srt-4, but as soon as it "has some room to run" (which was previously stated about the BMW) and catches traction, it would pull on the BMW with ease.

This is why it is the driver, not the cars, that are responsible for the result of this race, and therefore a topic of this discussion. Did he even try? Did he have a clue how to drive? Was he revving and shifting crazy while receiving a BJ from a midget in the passenger seat even? But Not had the BMW had room to run... the neon had to be pretty worked... or fwd v rwd...

[Ender81]

Let me help on this, if Supraholic says the car got beat, it did, I've known him for over 3 years. He has no Ego and doesn't talk smack except to his friends, so if he says the car lost it did. He obviously just thought it would be fun to see if it was anyone on here. Not listen to the bunch of you go back and forth on wether or not it is possible that it happened.


Munky put it in your pants, you drive a neon, no need trying to proove things to make up for it. Just kiddin man lol.

[Vypurr]

None of us said it was possible. We simply pointed out that the driver obviously was not capable of driving that car near its potential, or the outcome would have been different.

[ozthunder]

Originally Posted by Vypurr

None of us said it was possible. We simply pointed out that the driver obviously was not capable of driving that car near its potential, or the outcome would have been different.

Precisely..


I like how these things (street racing) always come down to people getting their feelings hurt. Take it easy man! Just cars... No offense was meant!

[S4toSTI]

Originally Posted by Vypurr

Yeah...The SRT wasn't racing!

Like others, I gotta ask what "modded" means? Intake and BOV? Or Intake/Exhaust/Piggyback/Wastegate/Boost Controller.

Either way the SRT should beat the 740. 250hp in a neon > 350-400(?) in a Jew Canoe

So umm jew canoe nice touch there. Umm yeah i don't think a neon stock would beat a 740 sorry.

[ozthunder]

An SRT4? Check out the numbers..unless it was the newer model (in only 3 of the trim levels- big V8 or V12), it should have beaten it.

[Munky]

Originally Posted by DonsGT1999

It wasnt a red SRT4 w/ black rims and LED tails was it... cause that kid's a douche bag and would try to race a SVT Cobra if it pulled up next to him

Whats wrong with lining up with Cobras? I've raced them before and won...Provided they weren't heavily modified but it's still doable.

Originally Posted by TTsupra911

BS your car is never running right

You haven't been around the last few days.

Originally Posted by Ender81

Munky put it in your pants, you drive a neon, no need trying to proove things to make up for it. Just kiddin man lol.

You're right I have nothing to prove since I already accomplished what I wanted to with my car over a year ago. I just said since the 740 thinks it was an easy kill to have him come see me cause I wanna see if maybe I can give him a better race. Nothing more...And it is in my pants. I can't help if it hangs out the bottom of my pants leg tho.

[smoger]

Originally Posted by whitezenki

The BMW's 10 LESS whp, and 1400 more lbs means either the Srt-4 wasn't trying, or really sucked at driving.

but.. but... you read the OP... the srt was SHIFTING!!!! so obviously he was racing..

[markley02]

The biggest factor between a SRT4 and a 740 racing is that a 740 is easy to go fast in. It is automatic and RWD. It is so much easier to get traction in a 740 than an SRT off of the line. Also, all this talk about hp and weight yet no one said anything about X power at Y RPM. The 4.0 V8 has a huge powerband compared to the SRT4. From a dig the SRT4 would have to have a great driver against an automatic RWD V8.

From a roll..... it really depends on how much the srt4 is modded. You guys have to remember once you get up to speed the weight means less and less

IMO on a lightly modded SRT4 vs a 740

Dig.....The 740 would take it
Roll.....SRT will pull lightly

[agoodall]

Originally Posted by whitezenki

really? How did I string anything together, I took one statement, and gave solid reasons of why it was wrong, maybe I interpreted it wrong, but I think most ppl would have taken it the same way.



what exactly did you mean by this then?

740...room to run... neon would have to be pretty worked over to run with it... fwd v rwd (as if its the reason) <--its pretty hard to mess that up

seems simple to me? I can understand you didnt mean automatic win, but you definitly thought it was a more likely choice, which it isnt at all

it is my fault, i thought schools taught people how to read using different puncuation like commas and what not. not to mention every asshole is always right on the forums, and god forribid if someone disagrees or has their own opinions. classic douche baggery

[whitezenki]

Originally Posted by agoodall

it is my fault, i thought schools taught people how to read using different puncuation like commas and what not. not to mention every asshole is always right on the forums, and god forribid if someone disagrees or has their own opinions. classic douche baggery

lol, your the one gettin all pissy about it, forums are here for discussion and arguing, but leave the name calling in high school buddy.

And I wouldnt take schools and education into this arguement, not a good idea. Trust me on that one.

plus, its the internets, it aint serious, you were argued against, either provide an explanation, or suck it up and move on

[whitezenki]

Originally Posted by markley02

The biggest factor between a SRT4 and a 740 racing is that a 740 is easy to go fast in. It is automatic and RWD. It is so much easier to get traction in a 740 than an SRT off of the line. Also, all this talk about hp and weight yet no one said anything about X power at Y RPM. The 4.0 V8 has a huge powerband compared to the SRT4. From a dig the SRT4 would have to have a great driver against an automatic RWD V8.

From a roll..... it really depends on how much the srt4 is modded. You guys have to remember once you get up to speed the weight means less and less

IMO on a lightly modded SRT4 vs a 740

Dig.....The 740 would take it
Roll.....SRT will pull lightly

Stock SRT-4 runs from 13.8-14.2, stock BMW 740iL from 14.9-17.2, but assuming the SRT-4 driver doesnt test cars for a magazine as his job, its possible that the BMW driver's advantage of only having to press down could have given him the lead.

Then the question of how the SRT-4 was modded, and how bad was the driver really come into play. But put a good ass driver in an srt-4, and it will win every time.

[cxrock16]

lol this thread gives me a headache.. and im pretty sure when the srt4 says 230 its 230whp not 210 .. something about a hot intercooler at dyno or something

[TTsupra911]

Originally Posted by Munky

You haven't been around the last few days.

nope, haven't been on near as much as before, and prob won't because of the new job

<--- goes searching to see what all was wrong..