The Imus Debate, Suit up.

[zerioustt]

Originally Posted by PotenzaSub

Like I said before, the world needs people like Don Imus. He didn't seem like he was KKK-style rascist. I'm sure he didn't look at black people as being inferior. He just reflected a type of funny southern culture. And besides, what's the big deal with the phrase "nappy-headed hoes"? I doubt the majority of people wanted to see Imus fired. It was just a couple of black "leaders" who wanted to further their images. And the big corporations (ie. NBC and CBS) just got scared and feared being seen as rascist so they felt forced to fire him.

It's all really sad.

there i fixored

[zerioustt]

Originally Posted by Buster

amen, i got my ass kicked and im a nice guy.

exactly!! thats what these bastards need. im telling you, you find people who were disciplined as kids and youll find for the most part good hearted people.(no matter how tough they seem on the outside)

[whitezenki]

The Rev. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson met with Moonves on Thursday to demand Imus' removal, promising a rally outside CBS headquarters Saturday and an effort to persuade more advertisers to abandon Imus.

Sumner Redstone, chairman of the CBS Corp. board and its chief stockholder, told Newsweek that he had expected Moonves to "do the right thing," although it wasn't clear what he thought that was.

The news came down in the middle of Imus' Radiothon, which has raised more than $40 million since 1990. The Radiothon had raised more than $1.3 million Thursday before Imus learned that he lost his job.

"This may be our last Radiothon, so we need to raise about $100 million," Imus cracked at the start of the event.

Volunteers were getting about 200 more pledges per hour than they did last year, with most callers expressing support for Imus, said Tony Gonzalez, supervisor of the Radiothon phone bank. The event benefited Tomorrows Children's Fund, the CJ Foundation for SIDS and the Imus Ranch.

Imus, whose suspension was supposed to start next week, was in the awkward situation of broadcasting Thursday's radio program from the MSNBC studios in New Jersey, even though NBC News said the night before that MSNBC would no longer simulcast his program on television.

He didn't attack MSNBC for its decision _ "I understand the pressure they were under," he said _ but complained the network was doing some unethical things during the broadcast. He didn't elaborate.

Seems more ppl supported him than not, and regardless of his radio show, i bet $40 million is more than Sharpton or Jackson have ever contributed to any worthy cause.

lol, i wish a bunch of white ppl would protest Jackson, Sharpton, and even Wendie Williams, the more i look at all this, the more unfair it seems...
(from a Rutgers student, who wanted the team to win it all)

[ToTheIX's]

...and while we're on topic here...i think i pretty much hate affirmative action...sort of

[PotenzaSub]

^ Ok, this isn't a "we hate black people" thread, buddy.

[CobaltGrl]

Originally Posted by zerioustt

i dont want to offend anyone but..

most black people are petty about the slavery thing, and anytime something "racist" happens they bring it up. ya know what, i didnt put you into slavery, neither did my dad or his, so grow the f up already and get over it. best part is there OWN people sold them to the whities. also look at the black on black crime...coincidence? im irish and my people were put into slavery...should i bitch and complain? how about jewish people?? should they go around picking fights with anyone who has german bloodlines?? people have there heads so far up there asses its rediculous. "we dont have the same opportunities as white people." there are just as many fed up white people as there are blacks. you know what its all about? your fed up parents and there horrendous parenting skills. its called commonsense, we all have it. it just so happens that some people dont choose to. it all comes down to if you want to be a loser for the rest of your life or not.EVERYONE has the opportunity to choose to live a life of dignity. slavery didnt make you oppresed...lazyness did. this doesnt ring loud for all blacks/whites/asians/mexians/aliens..just for those who bitch about the past. turns out you cant change the past but you sure have the power to control the future.(for the most part) omg im going on a tangent and my grammar/spelling doesnt go well when im pissy.

/rant

+12345!

Reminds me of the speech Ed Norton said in the movie the 25th Hour, if you have seen that movie, you know EXACTLY what Im talkin' about.

Im just curious as to what music the members of the Rutgers Womens basketball team have on thier Ipods.... because as long as its written in a song and spoken by someone of the same skin color, its accepted, even celebrated, right? And why is it any black comedian can stereo-type white people without any repercussion? Reverse racism is acceptable? Black culture perpetuates the same things they are fighting against, its hypocritical and wrong. R. Kelly had sex with minors AND video taped it, its disgusting, morally repugnant and he's a public figure yet he's still reveered in the black community. What sense does that make??

True, Imus went too far and he should be punished but this media circus is ****ing ridiculous.

[ToTheIX's]

Originally Posted by PotenzaSub

^ Ok, this isn't a "we hate black people" thread, buddy.

affirmative action isnt a black issue really, it can be but thats not where i was going at all

[CobaltGrl]

Originally Posted by ToTheIX's

affirmative action isnt a black issue really, it can be but thats not where i was going at all

well, where were you going?

[dynasty]

Originally Posted by CobaltGrl

+12345!

Reminds me of the speech Ed Norton said in the movie the 25th Hour, if you have seen that movie, you know EXACTLY what Im talkin' about.

Im just curious as to what music the members of the Rutgers Womens basketball team have on thier Ipods.... because as long as its written in a song and spoken by someone of the same skin color, its accepted, even celebrated, right? And why is it any black comedian can stereo-type white people without any repercussion? Reverse racism is acceptable? Black culture perpetuates the same things they are fighting against, its hypocritical and wrong. R. Kelly had sex with minors AND video taped it, its disgusting, morally repugnant and he's a public figure yet he's still reveered in the black community. What sense does that make??

True, Imus went too far and he should be punished but this media circus is ****ing ridiculous.

i can sum this up in a few words "people r idiots". i still dont get how all the white jokes r ok, but as soon as som1 says somthin about a black guy he's automatically racist. whenever som1 says somthin 2 me i think that is racist i really dont give a **** cuz it jus makes me feel like i have more class then them. as for the sex tape, im guessin the more crimes and stuff u do the more rep u get in the rap n r&b world. and i doubt that was really R kelly in those tapes, but u never know now n days cuz like i said, people r idiots.

[ToTheIX's]

Originally Posted by CobaltGrl

well, where were you going?

to sum it up quickly and non descript....we give all these "minorities"all these rights and priveledges...and for the most part it just backfires....probably not on as large of a scale as id like to think but i think a lot of problems today could stem from things being made easier on minorities then it really need be, to be honest im not fully prepared to go in depth on reasons or cause/effect but yea....theres the jist of it

[namdoogwerdna]

honestly, as rude as his comment was, and as much as those girls didnt deserve it, i dont think that anything is going to really get done about it to change the opinions of the general american public. especially in flyover country. no, im not racist. yes, i have black friends. but the point of it is that he screwed up, he's fired, we can all let it go now. people make huge deals about phrases and slang that i hear in a high school every day when there is probably more important stuff happening that we dont know about.

my .02

[CobaltGrl]

Originally Posted by ToTheIX's

to sum it up quickly and non descript....we give all these "minorities"all these rights and priveledges...and for the most part it just backfires....probably not on as large of a scale as id like to think but i think a lot of problems today could stem from things being made easier on minorities then it really need be, to be honest im not fully prepared to go in depth on reasons or cause/effect but yea....theres the jist of it

You may be trepidatious about saying what your really feel...but Im not. Basically, Affirmative Action is irresponsible. Someone should get a better education/job based on their ethnicity and not personal merit? Bull****. You want a good education? Earn it. You want to bank a six figure salary? Work for it. Atleast thats how I was raised. I bust my ass for EVERY THING I have while others sit back and wait for the hand outs because "opression is still a factor in todays society"? Ridiculous. Shut up and get a job.

/end rant.

[CHAOS]

jesse jackson is the president of black people.

[sherwood]

another member posted this on myspace....
Today Don Imus was fired for calling the Rutgers University basketball team "nappy headed hos". Sure, that was inappropriate, but did the punishment fit the crime? Maybe we should look at the two guys who pushed this issue until Imus was fired.


Jesse Jackson says it's a question of morality, and what's right and what's wrong.




Just so we're clear:


Imus Calling Black Women "nappy headed hos": Wrong.


Jesse Jackson calling Jews "Hymies" and referring to New York as "Hymietown" : Right. (Washington Post, 1984)


Imus Calling Black Women "nappy headed hos": Wrong.


Jesse Jackson having an affair and Impregnating Karin Stanford, then using rainbow coalition funds to pay her $40,000 and purchasing a $365,000 house to keep her quiet: Right


Jesse Jackson not paying child support for this child, and not visiting her: Right


Jesse Jackson Saying Duke La Crosse Rape Suspects who have been aquitted "deserved the negative attention" because they weren't acting morally by hiring a stripper: Right


I'm glad we have someone with strong moral values like Jesse Jackson to make sure nobody makes racist jokes on radio stations!


Thanks for showing us what's right and what's wrong Jesse.


And who can forget Al Sharpton, another strong moral figure who knows the power of words:


After District Attorney Steven Pagones failed to prosecute white suspects for raping a black girl (because evidence showed the story was fabricated) Al Sharpton accused Pagones Himself of raping the girl. Pagones successfully sued him for Defamation. Right


But it gets better:


Imus Calling Black Women "nappy headed hos": Wrong.


In 1995, Sharpton led a protest in Harlem against the plans of Freddy's Fashion Mart, a Jewish-owned clothing store, to expand into a black neighborhood. Sharpton told the protesters, "We will not stand by and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business." Three months later, an armed protester forcibly entered the store and burned it down, killing himself and seven others. Right


Thanks Jesse and Al for showing us what's right and wrong. I'm glad we can finally see the light now. I'm glad you guys stopped this guy, and all his charities for sick and homeless children, that will now dry up. Thanks guys!

[CHAOS]

hahahahaha wow i love it.

[namdoogwerdna]

Originally Posted by CHAOS

jesse jackson is the president of black people.

lol did you see the south park a couple weeks ago where stan said that jesse jackson was the emperor of black people?

[Buster]

awesome sherwood, exactly my point. this man made a funny comment from a song or movie, that they all knew and thats what happens.

[WhiteXFire]

I'm pissed that they took the simulcast off the air, I actually watched it on occasion when I was up that early...

I think he needs to run for president now...I'd vote for him.

[CHAOS]

Originally Posted by namdoogwerdna

lol did you see the south park a couple weeks ago where stan said that jesse jackson was the emperor of black people?

haha thats what i meant to say! haha damnit.

[twistedlanes]

Check this out ppl, I'm black and I don't really give a fu** about politics but I'll try and respond to some of this. SO let's start with Imus' statement, He called the girls "nappy headed hoes". I mean when I first heard the sh** I was like "SO" they probably are. I actually could see where he came from, after a long basketball game these girls are sweating and their hair is wild and all over the place. I honestly don't think he should have said it because of how ppl would blow it up, but these muthaf**s take **** too seriously.

Al Especially, that man is all about being in the public eye. He pulled his daughter over and was supposedly offended, by the comment but if his buddy on the block would have said that sh** they would be laughin' at that sh** over some beer or sumthin. Jesse I don't even wanna talk about that dude, I have nuthin to say about him. I really think most of these ppl these politicians are here for their own good and as long as they don't fu** wit my money I don't want anything to do with them.

As far as reverse-racism, I don't think their is such a thing. You are either racist or you aren't, you don't have to be a certain ethnicity to be racist. I do however believe in hard work and working for what you have, it's only fair. I don't ask anybody for sh** it and I would rather have it that way than to be handed everything and not know the value of it. It may hurt me to some extent because I refuse to let ppl see when I'm struggling but I can only be a better man for it.


And I'm spent