More troops to Iraq/Middle East: discuss!

[PotenzaSub]

what's the point?

[Intercooled T]

Originally Posted by Action Park

intercooled T- A post cannot be stupid, it holds no intelligence of it's own. In essence, you are calling yourself stupid as you failed to understand what you read under Action Park's name. You could say that you understood what was written and labeled it as nonsence, but then, of course, you are still labeling yourself as stupid because anything can be percieved as right depending upon the conditions that are imposed upon it. A gsr can have either 170hp or 500hp completely stock depending upon the strength of the horse! A standard unit of measurement was established only for convienience. Something can only be correct or false by the comparison with something else, it is false in itself. One could say that my first paragraph could be labled as a conspiracy theory. Yet, in the last paragraph, I clearly state that I am wrong. I only made that prediction based on the cause and effect of drastic change that has recently occured in U.S. history. Once again, it does'nt matter what happens, it is how the individual reacts to restriction and finds ways to better themselves and others. Copy and paste? No, you'll be hard pressed to find material on the web written with as much a lack of literary competence as I have demonstrated.

Jim Lewis- I'll take it as a compliment to be called "uninformed". To be informed implies that one has recieved information from an external source. Who's to say that this source is correct? Well it ca'nt be as information is only the excretement of perception. Who were you, being an informed person, informed by? Your superiors in the military? Personal experience? Ah yes, you are quick to take the position of the latter front. Yet, one can never know what one experiences as all the forces involved in the creation of an experience cannot be totally understood. One only builds a paradigm of the experience based upon what one has experienced to date, and subsequently creates an analysis or synthesis on a microcosmic scale. Subjectivity and objectivity are much the same when the basis of their assumption is catagorized by the rauch. Of course the forth dimension exists(everything exists, but only to the conditions as to which it is defined), but it can only be assumed by it's subsequent effect upon the first 3 dimensions.

Wrx Snobordr- I am happy to see you found a comedic value in what has been said. Comedy is usually quite lacking in political threads of this nature. I have read 1984 once, possibly in the 10th grade. A very miserable book, which was, of course, it's intention. I have no use of it any longer and have no desire to read it again.

I expected a better retaliation than this out of you people, maybe they who did'nt post actually recognize the underlying message behind what I have written and have co-related it to their own placement in the cosmos. I have only recieved blanket statements to label me as someone who is not of the same material as yourself, instead of forming a rebuttal around what I wrote and proving it as wrong. Well, anything can be proved as right or wrong(as is indicated by my remark to Intercooled T) so long as the conditions by which it is judged are made favorable, thereby making debate theoretically useless. At least the common grounds for worthless flaming have'nt been employed, such as nit-picking for obvious grammatical mistakes( like my misspelling of Al-Qaeda for instance) or simply telling me to leave. Good luck with your digestion of my babble, we have already wasted precious time on reading and writing instead of attaining to superior "realities".

LOL...sounds like you're preaching to the wrong choir. You and your cosmos talk should go back to Philosophy class

[Ronin Tactical]

Originally Posted by Intercooled T

I'm not even going to start with this, it's too frustrating to reason with some people on this board. Let's just pray when John McCain comes into office he will do what is in the troops and the iraqi people's best interest. I'm sure he will.

What was that you were saying about John McCain?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070112/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq

[Intercooled T]

And I agree with him and the President...if you couldn't tell from my previous posts

[wrx_snobordr]

Originally Posted by Action Park

Wrx Snobordr- I am happy to see you found a comedic value in what has been said. Comedy is usually quite lacking in political threads of this nature. I have read 1984 once, possibly in the 10th grade. A very miserable book, which was, of course, it's intention. I have no use of it any longer and have no desire to read it again.

I expected a better retaliation than this out of you people, maybe they who did'nt post actually recognize the underlying message behind what I have written and have co-related it to their own placement in the cosmos. I have only recieved blanket statements to label me as someone who is not of the same material as yourself, instead of forming a rebuttal around what I wrote and proving it as wrong. Well, anything can be proved as right or wrong(as is indicated by my remark to Intercooled T) so long as the conditions by which it is judged are made favorable, thereby making debate theoretically useless. At least the common grounds for worthless flaming have'nt been employed, such as nit-picking for obvious grammatical mistakes( like my misspelling of Al-Qaeda for instance) or simply telling me to leave. Good luck with your digestion of my babble, we have already wasted precious time on reading and writing instead of attaining to superior "realities".

Hmm, yes I do find comedy in it. I find comedy in alot of things. Not because I feel the people are mis-guided or ignorant to the truth(as it seems you do) because, what is truth. Unless you are an eye witness, truth is simply one persons recolection passed on through a chain of falible brains who will put their own spin on the story to make it interesting and to fill in the gaps for the information they lack. In a sense our news is one big life sized version of the childs game wisper down the lane. I find it interesting how we are all generally beign fed the same information (or mis-information in your mind) yet we all have completely different takes on the same situation. I for one embrace that diversity of opinion. If we all thought the same thoughts then what would be the point? Discussing allows us to more solidly form that idea or change it all together on an idea we feel is more likely. I tend to go with the Occams Razor outlook, "all things being equal the simplest explination tends to be the best one" where you look at the small nuances I dismiss as a mere circumstantial, and base your reality on those.

However, in regards to your post and calling people out. As Jim stated it is very easy to call someone out and say they are wrong as you sit in the lap of luxury you so eloquently refer to as the "land O' fools". So i ask you, are you the athority on what is and is not reality? Or is it that you are afraid? Afraid of things you dont understand or afraid of the fact that life isnt as neat and tidy as you wish it would be? You put this whole elaborate twist on events as if one evil person, or group of people, is controlling all of our fates for the simple prospect of monetary gain. Do you do this so the world seems less like a series of random event?I think that every once and a while you should step outside your "enlightened" superiority complex and look at the world around you.

You can say America is the land of the fools. But where is the land of the intelligent? In your previous diatrabe you stated that for a country to run smoothly the government must instill "false morals". So would it be the countrys in the middle east? Cant be, they folow their "false moral" of Islam much more blindly than we follow our patriotic or liberator of the oppressed ideals. I could go on with all the other countries in the world and the"false morals" they blindly follow but you get the idea.

This really has nothing to do with the debate on more troops to Iraq but simply to do with your condescending attitude towards everyone who has had the courage to speak up in this thread. I dont know you, I dont know why you think your ideas are vastly superior to everyone elses to the point that you feel validated in demeaning them. Some of the people may not have the education you have but when it comes down to it we are all equal.

[Ronin Tactical]

I'm just glad that Saddam still has his pet kitten to play with...

[Intercooled T]

Lmao^^^^^

[Action Park]

Thank you for your increased effort in forming a debate. Fortunatly, there is no point for increased contribution to this thread on my behalf. I can only suggest a re-reading of my second post to better understand why IT is. A model of myself has already been assumed by y'all. You say that I am wrong. Correct, I am(see my second post). I have nothing to offer you, you are at a better place and have no need to change.

[PotenzaSub]

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