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Old 12-29-2005, 02:21 AM   #141
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This thread is teh ***. I will not waste anymore of my time reading it. From reading the first 3 pages and then the last, all I can gather is silver05bullet is just trying to say that his EVO will rule all us scooby owners and poo to the rest.

I respect your opinion to like your car, but at this point you are like a 5 year-old poking and prodding trying to get a reaction. This matter has gone on for years and this thread wont put a resolution to it. Its been consistent that one year the EVO will be faster and then the Scooby, so why continue to argue about it.The fact of the matter is there will always be someone faster. There will always be a faster Scooby than the EVO you currently see and just when you see that, there will be an EVo faster than that and then guess what, yup a faster scooby and so on and so on, so just drop the subject.

My BELIEF is that the scooby is better, why, becasue I own one. Thats why, but in no way am I goin to push that belief on anyone.

Oh and another thing: Just as a third party, it seems that from first reading your arguments You think that the EVO is better because it looks cooler. (In fact I think thats why people are geting worked up about it.)
But since beauty is in the eye of the beholder aesthetics should be completely stricken from the argument.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:33 AM   #142
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Old 12-29-2005, 04:21 AM   #143
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Whats better a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 8 or 9, or a WRX

I would definitely say an EVO cuz i have one, but truthfully what do u subaru guys think i think te wrx is garbage and the sti is too overrated
If you were here a year ago you would’ve seen all threads about the EVO vs. the STI vs. the Cobra vs. etc. There were a boat load of these back then and usually the threads went on, and on, and on…

I’ll say this… both cars’ abilities go far beyond that of the drivers limitations if only driven on the street. Drag racing doesn’t show their strengths either. These cars must be driven on a road course to bring out their true potential, and even then, a very skilled driver is needed to show the strengths and weaknesses between the EVO and the STI. Usually, the EVO bests its' competitor on the road course. However, on the street, the differences between the two cars are nil. I drive “Philly Boy’s” car on a regular basis and get a chance to feel what the Subie has to offer and it’s a fantastic automobile. I love his car equally as I do mine, however, differently.

My reasoning for purchasing the EVO was with the intent of periodically, getting on a race track and chasing down a GT3. I wanted super car like handling, braking, power and performance. Does this now mean the EVO is a “better” car then the STI… my answer would be no. “Better” is a relative term… it’s like asking if Matter is better than Anti-Matter? The Universe has both for a reason… so I’ll leave it for the audience to decide.


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Subaru owners are soooo much better than EVO owners.

In the 8 months I owned my EVO, i tried numerous times on EVOm to get a meet together to no avail. They never wave, but won't hesitate to try to race you. I have never been snubbed by owners of the same car as me as much as when I had the EVO.

I am by no means saying that all EVO owners are assholes, I know quite a few cool EVO guys, but the vast majority are like the JDM version of BMW guys.

Both cars are phenominal in their own way, it is up to you to decide which YOU like better really. I love the Boxer rumble and was never realy comfortable with the way the EVO sounded.

Cheaper to make faster=EVO.
I would have to agree with Mike on this. Evo owners can be a bit… “unique” at times, and it’s difficult to get clear, concise, and accurate information. Subie owners tend to take a more Zen approach to owning an WRX/STI… they do take a lot of time studying every aspect of the car and are less into drag racing, and more into Rallying and Track days.

And for those people saying that both cars are overrated… please get a clue. You cannot truly appreciate these cars from reading a magazine, or taking a 10 minute test drive at a dealership. You’ve gotta own one and drive it everyday. I still own my modded Honda Accord, and everytime I get back into the EVO, I am reminded just how phenomenal these little AWD Ferrari chasers truly are. They are light years ahead of most cars. The EVO and STI overrated… yeah, right.

Sorry, my post is long… but I had to through that in the pile.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:03 PM   #144
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Old 12-29-2005, 01:42 PM   #145
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If you were here a year ago you would’ve seen all threads about the EVO vs. the STI vs. the Cobra vs. etc. There were a boat load of these back then and usually the threads went on, and on, and on…

I’ll say this… both cars’ abilities go far beyond that of the drivers limitations if only driven on the street. Drag racing doesn’t show their strengths either. These cars must be driven on a road course to bring out their true potential, and even then, a very skilled driver is needed to show the strengths and weaknesses between the EVO and the STI. Usually, the EVO bests its' competitor on the road course. However, on the street, the differences between the two cars are nil. I drive “Philly Boy’s” car on a regular basis and get a chance to feel what the Subie has to offer and it’s a fantastic automobile. I love his car equally as I do mine, however, differently.
Philly Boy's car is very well modded. And I don't remember your car having all that much into it.

And I agree this will be an on-going debate. The cars are very close to a certain extent, overall.

I feel there is nothing wrong with a good debate. Unfortunately, this is a predominantly subie board where a good amount of subie owners are taking offense and instead of playing nicely are reverting to name calling.

The problem I see is that each car has pros and cons but neither side is really accepting them completely.

I learned a lot from this debate cause I have never owned either an Evo or an STI. I use to own a WRX but obviously it's not in the same league as either car.

I do appreciate the insight into these cars by their owners, which to me, is much better than anything written in a magazine.
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Old 12-29-2005, 02:39 PM   #146
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Everybody has their own preference of car. Every car has their ups and downs. This argument is just like fighting with domestic owners over what kind of car is better a domestic or an import. These topics are like beating a dead horse. But, as a person who owns 3 DSM's I say GO EVO's!!! hehe
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Old 12-29-2005, 03:44 PM   #147
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Old 12-30-2005, 06:55 AM   #148
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Philly Boy's car is very well modded. And I don't remember your car having all that much into it.
Both cars are nearly identical in speed and power. We conducted a few “tests” to determine this. His version 4 tranny swap greatly improved acceleration. We would each gain an inch and lose and inch each time one of us shifted… each gear between are cars is literally a battle won and a battle lost (in inches.) He’s sacrificed a few miles per hour at top speed for better acceleration. We’ve sensed that the EVO may have a few more ponies and would eventually inch away, however, we haven’t found a strip of runway long enough to conclude our final test. (I was reminded of the fight between Neo and Mr. Smith in the third and final Matrix.)

Handling is definitely sharper in the EVO and the throttle is much more responsive. On the street neither one of us would be able to pull away, however, if we were on a road course, eventually the EVO would show its’ strengths. The EVO is a sharper instrument and can make surgical incisions more precisely. It feels very athletic and extremely nimble.

On the flip side, when behind the wheel of Philly Boys car, you get the sense it’s a very muscular car. I never get tired of the exhaust note and the turbo sounds like that of a tractor-trailer. You finally have these machines that you’ve seen in the Option and Best Motoring DVDs and it a great thing. They live up to the expectations. The most fun I have is when he and I swap cars. We get to see each one in action from a third perspective. When you’re in these cars you forget how “mortal” all other passenger vehicles are. But to see my car laying waste to an onramp really puts me at awe. I think Philly Boy would say the same thing when watching his car devour a stretch of I-95.

It’s basically like this… the WRX is more “Porsche-like” and the EVO is more “Ferrari-like.” One car rockets you to extreme speeds with the feel of muscle, the other gets you their with delicate finesse. They accomplish the same goal differently.

Oh, I’m only missing cams at this point… and I’m gonna remedy that problem very shortly!
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Old 11-12-2006, 09:54 PM   #149
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i like the evo overall.......With the tbe and tune can it make over 350whp on pump gas?
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