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CHAOS · 10-12-2006, 07:10 AM

As of late, the cars here seem to have become background noise for the offtopic forum... in an attempt to change that im posting here...

how many of you are running stand alone and/or some kind of "more than a chip" engine managment? what kind? whats ur engine set up like? how do you feel youve benefited from standalone? etc etc... post up beeshes.

Loserkidwac · 10-12-2006, 09:34 AM

I'm using a chipped Ecu on TurboEdit...but i don't see how it would differ than running a stand alone, its not just an ebay chip its tunable just like any other system

Renegade_ · 10-12-2006, 10:09 AM

talk to hishem (oh dear god I butchered that in every way possible) and sit down with him in the car, he'll make your head spin

S4toSTI · 10-12-2006, 10:27 AM

Wgnestric is who you wanna talk to i am sure he may not see this thread but him or a few others on here have hydra. Also matt hwo doesn't post as much. HIshem is not gonna help you since he uses aem and you have dbw and can't use an aem unit.

**TROLL** · 10-12-2006, 10:38 AM

i talked to wgknewstrick and asked him if i should get a hydra expecting him to say yes, but he didnt. he told me that i should probably stick with ecutek. the hydra is quite impressive but at the end of the day for your average person its more than most need. bigger isnt always better. he also made quite an issue about inspection and how thats not possible if you no longer have your factory ecu in the car.
just a couple things to consider...
bryan

CHAOS · 10-12-2006, 11:48 AM

im not trying to "talk" to anyone... im trying to get a good thread going. i know enough about standalone for my purposes

CHAOS · 10-12-2006, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade_

talk to hishem (oh dear god I butchered that in every way possible) and sit down with him in the car, he'll make your head spin

i did that before... my head did not spin... i know plenty about standalone

05OCsrt-4 · 10-12-2006, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaos311clarity

i did that before... my head did not spin... i know plenty about standalone

i have a sponsorship to get a standalone cheap, but i'm trying to get money together for it

wgknestrick · 10-12-2006, 12:45 PM

I'm here. Ask away.

Bill

CHAOS · 10-12-2006, 12:56 PM

the point of me posting this was not entirely to gain info myself... but to spread info throughout...hence the questions in the first thread.

Evolved · 10-12-2006, 01:03 PM

I have a Utec in my Evo. Never really got to deep into it though. Sadly turbo XS seams to have forgotten about us Evo people as they haven't released an update for in in a loooooooong time. Now a days you'll have a hard time trying to sell it.

ps- I understood the point of this thread.

wgknestrick · 10-12-2006, 01:09 PM

I will break some info down into categorized posts

INSPECTION:

OBD2 is a federal program and is ILLEGAL to replicate on any non OEM ECU. This means that you cannot pass inspection by any means that connects to your car thru the OBD2 port under the dash. This is only an issue for car manfactured after 1996 (I think). Prior to that, you fall under your state's (county's) inspection criteria, whatever they might be.

It will return an "unable to connect error" and you will fail inspection. On newer cars (and for PA) the cars' VIN # is obtained from the original ECU as well.

In PA (and probably in other states), there is a 1 TIME exemption (meaning 1 time inspection) you are elligable for if the inspection equipment cannot connect to your ECU. You CAN get a standalone OBD2 car inspected, but only once. After that, you are screwed. It is not a bad idea to save this until you are caught and forced to get an inspection in X days. Fines are normally around $100 for no inspection. I've run my car for over 1 year without ANY inspection sticker. You can get away with it, but it is only a matter of time until a cop notices it either in a DUI check, pulled over, passing you, etc.

The only way I know of to get inspected legitamately with a standalone is to re-install the original (or A original) OEM ECU. This sounds easy, but the reason you got a standalone in the first place is usually because the stock ECU was inaddequit. I know my car won't even idle with my stock ECU in it anymore with my modifications. Inspection laws follow the address the car is registered too, so if you have relatives that live in a non-OBD2 inspection county/state, this is another option.

If this sounds like too much effort for you, then consider other options.

licensedtothrill · 10-12-2006, 01:10 PM

Right now I'm running the factory ecu in my 87 Rx7 now, only mod is the air/fuel controller. Looking to go Rteck ecu @ wideband stand alone next so I can get it tuned out.

If anyone knows were i can pick up a stand alone wide-band o2 for less than the average $260.00 PM ME. don't post it on the tread.

antman0408 · 10-12-2006, 02:29 PM

haltech e6k, waiting for the wideband to come so I can tune it. 1600cc secondary injectors dump a lot of fuel

RayArroyo · 10-12-2006, 02:49 PM

ran a standalone for over a year in my last car. i loved it, however if you have no tuning knowedge i will not reccomend it. sure you can have someone tune it for you but its good to have the knowledge as you may have to do some tweaking from time to time.

also wingthegretshkasghwek

what ever his name is is correct

noclutch · 10-12-2006, 04:17 PM

DSMLINK in my 91 awd Eclipse. Its sufficient for the 400whp that I make, has alot of really nice features and is simple to install and tune with. The car isnt driven on the street though so I couldnt comment on that aspect.

ej20wrx123 · 10-12-2006, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evolved

I have a Utec in my Evo. Never really got to deep into it though. Sadly turbo XS seams to have forgotten about us Evo people as they haven't released an update for in in a loooooooong time. Now a days you'll have a hard time trying to sell it.

ps- I understood the point of this thread.

Sell your utec for the delta....you evo guys will finally have speed density w/ it.

peteyturbo · 10-12-2006, 04:59 PM

I run a haltech E6K on my RX7, it's great for that car but lacks knock and wideband target a/f..Some of the newer systems use this and can work more accurately while getting better MPG, but the complexity also increases..Although 3d maps are the bomb

88TSI_Rob · 10-12-2006, 07:54 PM

I'm running a Hawk EC21 by EFI Hardware. I've been told it's similar to the Wolf3D ECU that a lot of the RX-7 guys run.

turboteg · 10-17-2006, 07:17 PM

I'm running a AEM ems ,its the second time I'm using it.
I'm really happy with it

10-12-2006, 07:10 AM	#1
CHAOS TST Ruined My Life! Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2120 My Ride: 1984 Cadillac Brougham iTrader: (1)	Are you running standalone? As of late, the cars here seem to have become background noise for the offtopic forum... in an attempt to change that im posting here... how many of you are running stand alone and/or some kind of "more than a chip" engine managment? what kind? whats ur engine set up like? how do you feel youve benefited from standalone? etc etc... post up beeshes.

10-12-2006, 09:34 AM	#2
Loserkidwac Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SE PA Member #2550 My Ride: 1992 Mazda Miata, 1991 Honda CRX Si LS-T, 95 Civic VX iTrader: (3)	I'm using a chipped Ecu on TurboEdit...but i don't see how it would differ than running a stand alone, its not just an ebay chip its tunable just like any other system __________________ MoHawks are Cool To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-12-2006, 10:09 AM	#3
Renegade_ Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: May 2006 Location: NNJ/NYC Member #1912 My Ride: 1J Swaggon iTrader: (2)	talk to hishem (oh dear god I butchered that in every way possible) and sit down with him in the car, he'll make your head spin __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-12-2006, 01:10 PM	#13
licensedtothrill Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Morrisville Pa Member #948 iTrader: (0)	Right now I'm running the factory ecu in my 87 Rx7 now, only mod is the air/fuel controller. Looking to go Rteck ecu @ wideband stand alone next so I can get it tuned out. If anyone knows were i can pick up a stand alone wide-band o2 for less than the average $260.00 PM ME. don't post it on the tread. __________________ "What would you attempt to do if you knew you would not fail?" "Dream as if you'll live forever, Live as if you’ll die today" Last edited by licensedtothrill; 10-12-2006 at 01:23 PM. Reason: added more stuff

10-12-2006, 02:49 PM	#15
RayArroyo Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ALBANY/PHILLY Member #205 My Ride: GTR/RSTI/MDX Sport iTrader: (3)	ran a standalone for over a year in my last car. i loved it, however if you have no tuning knowedge i will not reccomend it. sure you can have someone tune it for you but its good to have the knowledge as you may have to do some tweaking from time to time. also wingthegretshkasghwek what ever his name is is correct __________________ formerly ray@turbotek

10-12-2006, 11:48 AM	#6
CHAOS TST Ruined My Life! Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2120 My Ride: 1984 Cadillac Brougham iTrader: (1)	im not trying to "talk" to anyone... im trying to get a good thread going. i know enough about standalone for my purposes

10-12-2006, 12:56 PM	#10
CHAOS TST Ruined My Life! Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Member #2120 My Ride: 1984 Cadillac Brougham iTrader: (1)	the point of me posting this was not entirely to gain info myself... but to spread info throughout...hence the questions in the first thread.

10-12-2006, 01:03 PM	#11
Evolved Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: W.C. Member #998 iTrader: (0)	I have a Utec in my Evo. Never really got to deep into it though. Sadly turbo XS seams to have forgotten about us Evo people as they haven't released an update for in in a loooooooong time. Now a days you'll have a hard time trying to sell it. ps- I understood the point of this thread.

10-12-2006, 02:29 PM	#14
antman0408 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: west chester PA Member #1337 iTrader: (2)	haltech e6k, waiting for the wideband to come so I can tune it. 1600cc secondary injectors dump a lot of fuel

10-12-2006, 04:17 PM	#16
noclutch Tri-State Addict Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Buslengths ahead of sleeperstyle, PA Member #2604 My Ride: Black 3G Eclipse, Riced out iTrader: (0)	DSMLINK in my 91 awd Eclipse. Its sufficient for the 400whp that I make, has alot of really nice features and is simple to install and tune with. The car isnt driven on the street though so I couldnt comment on that aspect.

10-12-2006, 04:59 PM	#18
peteyturbo Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NE Phila. Member #1450 iTrader: (0)	I run a haltech E6K on my RX7, it's great for that car but lacks knock and wideband target a/f..Some of the newer systems use this and can work more accurately while getting better MPG, but the complexity also increases..Although 3d maps are the bomb

10-12-2006, 07:54 PM	#19
88TSI_Rob Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NE Philly Member #547 iTrader: (1)	I'm running a Hawk EC21 by EFI Hardware. I've been told it's similar to the Wolf3D ECU that a lot of the RX-7 guys run. __________________ 2005 Subaru LGT 1988 Chrysler Conquest TSI 1987 Dodge Raider Turbo

10-17-2006, 07:17 PM	#20
turboteg Tri-State Training Wheels Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: RIDLEY Member #2581 My Ride: turbo integra,turbo mirage,65 stang 351w, 98 passat 1.8t iTrader: (0)	I'm running a AEM ems ,its the second time I'm using it. I'm really happy with it

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