C5Z... now with headers... post 410

[DC2.2GSR]

Bickering? Maybe you could say that, but bickering usually occurs when people are battling back and forth about something that they don't really know much about. In this case, there's a pretty clear explanation of most of these issues that he has with his car. I've explained them to everyone and given the reasons why, but no one is paying attention.

Originally Posted by Big_Jim

an unrealistic expectation is paint that matches? I mean, maybe its completely possible that his car already had multiple tape lines and was different shades of yellow.

Yes, in some instances it is. I already said that at least once. Bumpers very rarely match from the factory. It's a well known fact that bumpers are among the things that are painted separately from the rest of the body, even on different days altogether. Go into any shop any ask for a guarantee on bumper paint matching and they will explain to you that it's nearly impossible to do even if they painted the panels right next to each other.

Another cause for the slight difference in color on the quarter panel for example is the extra clear coat on the panel slightly changing the way the underlying color appears. It happens all the time on lighter colored vehicles. When the blend is at the front of a panel, the back has absolutely zero new color added, just clear coat over the entire panel. That can cause a slight color shift against the adjacent rear bumper. Does that mean it wasn't blended? Not at all.

How about his license plate frame? If the color was blended at the corner where the repair was, it's very likely that the plate frame got nothing done to it at all. That's just how it goes, and it's not a fault of the shop's. I don't know for a fact in this case, but it's a good possibility.

As for the tape lines, I've already explained that away too, but again it was ignored. That is not a tape line shown in the picture. That is the way that clear coat naturally sits on edges where there was previously clear coat build up. At the bottom of the quarter like that, there would be absolutely no reason to tape it straight. That's the equivalent of a mechanical shop putting maple syrup in your engine instead of oil. It's just wrong and ridiculous.

[VETTE_50_TH]

I would go push that vette off the side of a mountain if I were you.

[jpalamar]

1 looks like either tape or whatever materials that were used to repair the passenger rocker

2 is overspray from the rocker to the cars frame. I believe that is where the jacking pucks are supposed to go.

Just leaned over and took these. Didn't even jack the car up to get a good look yet.

[Big_Jim]

^^ you should be happy with that man, you're getting extra paint that isnt on the estimate..... hahaha

[Antonio]

Correct, that is 1 of the 4 jacking puck locations of the frame.

[AWD GS]

Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR

Wrong. You didn't read anything that I wrote. The only thing not done according to the estimate that he posted was the door handle. All blends were made.

wrong. i did read your bickering and just basing off the estimate it states item #4 for the front bumper, repair right end blend paint. #28 for the quarter panel, repair front dog leg blend paint.

i cant say for sure if it was done or not because i did not paint the car nor do i see it in person but the pic of the front end, even in the picture you can see it does not blend. i bet even under artificial lighting it probably looks worse.

[DC2.2GSR]

Originally Posted by AWD GS

wrong. i did read your bickering and just basing off the estimate it states item #4 for the front bumper, repair right end blend paint. #28 for the quarter panel, repair front dog leg blend paint.

i cant say for sure if it was done or not because i did not paint the car nor do i see it in person but the pic of the front end, even in the picture you can see it does not blend. i bet even under artificial lighting it probably looks worse.

What's not blended about either of those? Blend does not mean paint every singe thing anywhere near the bumper or quarter. Blend means blend into the panel. They did that. The front bumper evidently had a repair on the right side, which means that the middle and left sides of the bumper don't get any color on them, they get prepped without breaking through the original clear and they remain the factory yellow. The basecoat only goes over the repair area and then the entire thing gets cleared. That is a blend. That is an industry standard repair.


As for the overspray and tape under the rocker, that is effed up. It's still an easy fix, but there's no doubt that it's a legitimate bitch. To be perfectly honest with you it has been a looooong time since I've seen anything like that from there and I sure as hell wouldn't have ever gotten away with anything like that.

[93EGY8]

Originally Posted by mcperson2k

The owner is a heshe

No bro, it's a guy and his wife.

[VETTE_50_TH]

Buncha snakes in this thread.

[BlkWhtTSI]

I've seen the car in person and it looks a bit worse in person. While standing on his porch about 40 yards away, i could plain as day see the mismatching paint. The bumper and fender DO NOT match the hood and corvette plate panel. Why is his weather striping sliced? It was not like that before. Why is his arm rest filthy? why is there overspray underneath the car and on the hinges? why is there paint drips in the interior? If its a GM fitment issue, why was the fender gap not pointed out and explained by the shop? If its unavoidable i would of (if i were Jpalamer) been much less aggravated if the flaw was pointed out and explained that this is the best we could get it because of this______ reason. Instead, they just sent him off with his car and hoped he wouldnt notice. Just not professional at all.

[AWD GS]

Originally Posted by BlkWhtTSI

Why is his weather striping sliced? It was not like that before. Why is his arm rest filthy? why is there overspray underneath the car and on the hinges? why is there paint drips in the interior? If its a GM fitment issue, why was the fender gap not pointed out and explained by the shop?

because its not on the estimate

[cmr076]

Originally Posted by VETTE_50_TH

Buncha snakes in this thread.

where did you come from? did you change your username or something? i havent seen anything in the past (well, since i noticed you posting) that was constructive... you seem to just do a bunch of **** talking and bitching..

http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...02#post2166102
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...47#post2166047
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...d.php?t=127131
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...28#post2165928

i really hope your just a troll and using this place as a laugh, but i dont think you are... Sadly YOU are the reason TST is heading down the route TST is going... its funny because people like you are the reason the forum blows and all the old members left in the first place, then you post threads about why the forum sucks.. what a joke.


back on topic, jason, hope your **** gets sorted out without too much headache.. i just had some parts for a very high end car painted by the "best body shop around" us and the lip/spoiler paint match was way eff'd up.

[92awdtsi]

Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR

What's not blended about either of those? Blend does not mean paint every singe thing anywhere near the bumper or quarter. Blend means blend into the panel. They did that. The front bumper evidently had a repair on the right side, which means that the middle and left sides of the bumper don't get any color on them, they get prepped without breaking through the original clear and they remain the factory yellow. The basecoat only goes over the repair area and then the entire thing gets cleared. That is a blend. That is an industry standard repair.

+1 on the blending info. Remember, if your looking for a color difference you have to look almost a whole panel away. I usually blend at least 6-8" past where the new color stops.

[VETTE_50_TH]

Originally Posted by cmr076

where did you come from? did you change your username or something? i havent seen anything in the past (well, since i noticed you posting) that was constructive... you seem to just do a bunch of **** talking and bitching..

http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...02#post2166102
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...47#post2166047
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...d.php?t=127131
http://www.tristatetuners.com/forum/...28#post2165928

i really hope your just a troll and using this place as a laugh, but i dont think you are... Sadly YOU are the reason TST is heading down the route TST is going... its funny because people like you are the reason the forum blows and all the old members left in the first place, then you post threads about why the forum sucks.. what a joke.


back on topic, jason, hope your **** gets sorted out without too much headache.. i just had some parts for a very high end car painted by the "best body shop around" us and the lip/spoiler paint match was way eff'd up.

LOL. If you really think i take anything on here seriously, then you are highly mistaken. I troll just to troll. Its fun. And if you want to know my honest opinion about this situation is OP is ****ed. Just like i was. I called it when it happened. That car will never be the same. Hence all my trollin. Now go pound sand.

[VETTE_50_TH]

And this site wasnt like this back in 08-09 when i stopped coming on here. It was a bit more lively. Its just **** since ive been back in the area. Get your facts straight.

[Ej6Mike]

Guys Guys Guys!

This is exactly what they want... for us to tear ourselves apart over this.

Get it together already!

[dudewheresmycar]

holy ****..

[SovXietday]

Originally Posted by Antonio

I'd assume it'd be frustrating as hell, for both the car I'd find it laughable if a shop would find it as acceptable to not perform the repair properly. Even if the insurance company quotes it for no paint to be performed, the shop should understand that really isn't a repair, but only a "put back to the way it was". In that case, the shop should either inform the car owner of the insurance procedures before work is performed, or get a supplemental check from the insurance to properly repair the damage to new the right way.

Would you do work for free? Probably not. If insurance isn't paying for them to paint a panel, they're not going to paint the panel. How could you possibly expect them to?

If this is just a big misunderstanding between the shop and Jason (of work to be done, or quality of work "allowed" by insurance) I hope that they can come to an agreement to make it right because the car definitely isn't in its present state. I'm hoping the car is corrected and looks great because honestly, the way it looked before WAS BETTER than how he received it after paint. I'm not here to jump on anyone's bandwagon, so like I said, I reserve judgement to only what I can see from pictures compared to the last time I saw the car in person.

Should have just turned around and brought it back to the shop from the get go, instead of posting about it online. Any quality shop will gladly do whatever they can to fix what they can. Humans are human, sometimes things slip by or go unnoticed (like overspray under the car). If they refuse to fix it, by all means tear them apart, but in most cases you need to at least give the shop a chance to fix their mistakes.

A little overspray on the hinges may be a quick fix, but it does send red flags if left when someone is looking to purchase a car. Let's face it, a z06 is specialty vehicle. People will travel across the country to purchase one and ship it back if it has everything they are looking for. I wouldn't travel across the country to buy a used Chevy Cobalt. Cost vs. value of car prevents that, not to mention the availability locally would prevent it. That, in turn, would make Jason's car practically "un-sellable" if he put it up for sale as it currently stands. So being upset about the overspray isn't being nit picky, it's being realistic.

Uh, no. The Z06 is just another banged up car that roles through the shop. If a Lambo rolls through the shop with a nick on the fender it would get the fender fixed, just like if a Civic rolled through the shop with a nick on the fender. $$$ dictates EVERYTHING, and insurance will not pay extra to make sure your "specialty Z06" is better taken care of than your neighbors Camry. In a shop, your **** has 4 wheels and an engine, if it doesn't make you money doesn't matter what it is, it isn't going to get special treatment. As for the overspray, again, should have just gone back to the shop from the getgo.

One last thing, although he was refunded for the alignment that was never done...how was that something that was overlooked? It seemed off enough to become immediately apparent, even if just moving it from the paint booth to the outside of the shop.

Dunno if this shop has a rack or not, but a lot of times that kind of work is outsourced. Either way, moot point. Alignments cost the same everywhere, and he was refunded the money. Albeit agreeably annoying, seems as if they didn't argue the point either. Again, humans are human, mistakes are made and things are overlooked.

I have absolutely no affiliation with the shop, nor am I really defending the shop. Just putting out the facts of what you should expect for any kind of insurance based work. It doesn't play by the same rules or have the same expectations as you do.

[itwillboost]

The only confusing thing is how people think they can stand up for a shop that offers this level of service. I would never dream of going to a place that can't do something so simple as prep or clean a car properly. I understand paint being tough to match some times, but this just seems like poor, rushed service. If you have to take an extra day to do things right you do it, but you never return a car to a customer half assed or unfinished. That's unexcuseable and when people make negative comments it's for a reason.

[jpalamar]

Jacked teh car up this weekend and saw this:

1 is a side shot of the rocker with the car jacked up. You can see they only actually painted the parts visable when looking at the car?

2 is also the rocker

3 is also the rocker, too lazy to remove a bolt prior to painting?

4 is the front bumper. The lowe pair dam was not removed when painted

5 is the front bumper.