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andru1313 · 05-02-2012, 08:40 PM

Naturals don't work great.

The synthesics aka designer ones are
Ok but hard on the liver

HGH if it's real is very expensive. Also messes with a lot of stuff like insulin ect. You are young. I would stay away from messing around with your test. Only way to do it is if you have a dr that will do blood work and monitor your levels.

Roids for example will elevate your redblood cell count and coming off can reek havok on your hormones. Also can cause depression. You end up really shutting down your natural production of test and at a young age that is a bad thing us older guys have it a bit easier. If you want to talk spacifics lmk. You should never go into any supplement without knowing the hard facts. I have done it all so I feel that I have a good knowledge in most of the garbage on the market.

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CleanNeon98 · 05-03-2012, 12:40 PM

I did some reading and consulting with some guys and am going to try an 8 week cycle of this. If I notice any obvious and bad side effects I'll cut it off. I'm on day 3 right now, so I think it's too early to tell, but maybe in another 2 weeks I'll have a better idea.

It's pretty new but a there's a thread on BB.com with people's actual bloodwork results, etc. and apparently its the real deal.

schaffer · 05-04-2012, 09:30 PM

In a non homo way. You look old man,nice transformation.

CleanNeon98 · 05-05-2012, 09:36 AM

Old? hahahah

schaffer · 05-07-2012, 03:25 AM

Good. Damn phone musta auto corrected.

CleanNeon98 · 05-12-2012, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z/28

So you workout for about a year and decide you need test boosters??

The purchase of a miata would have been my first clue of your low testosterone.

HatchSurfer3 · 05-17-2012, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleanNeon98

I did some reading and consulting with some guys and am going to try an 8 week cycle of this. If I notice any obvious and bad side effects I'll cut it off. I'm on day 3 right now, so I think it's too early to tell, but maybe in another 2 weeks I'll have a better idea.

It's pretty new but a there's a thread on BB.com with people's actual bloodwork results, etc. and apparently its the real deal.

Let us know how it goes. Did the bloodwork results inlude a complete metabolic panel? I've read that oral testosterone can be hepatoxic. Is this possible with supplements like this?

CleanNeon98 · 05-17-2012, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HatchSurfer3

Let us know how it goes. Did the bloodwork results inlude a complete metabolic panel? I've read that oral testosterone can be hepatoxic. Is this possible with supplements like this?

Been about 2.5 weeks and I'm happy with it. Managed to get all my weights up a bit already and definitely seeing a visible change, more size and definition. I went from putting up 185lbs 5-6 times, now I can do 2x8 sets. All the logs people do are in this thread:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...&highlight=APE

I'll have some photos up either halfway through or at the end of the cycle.

StylezTA · 05-17-2012, 11:11 AM

And how much do u weigh now?

CleanNeon98 · 05-18-2012, 04:55 PM

Right now about 165lbs. I find that I'm getting stronger but not really putting one a lot of weight. Definitely seeing toning differences though.

StylezTA · 05-19-2012, 09:09 AM

same size as me then. nice man. keep lifting hard and keep reps between 8-12 on each set. i rep 210 for 3 sets between 8-12 reps.

CleanNeon98 · 05-19-2012, 10:09 AM

I usually aim for as much weight as I can do 3x8. Usually warm up to it, if I bench I do a set at 155, then move to 185 for 2x8 and the 3rd as many as I can.

HatchSurfer3 · 05-22-2012, 10:04 AM

Are you always keeping the same workouts and set/reps? I haven't read all of this thread but you have to make sure you keep switching up your workouts, even if its just switching between dumbbell and barbell bench press, cable/dumbbell flies, etc. Also, try switching up your set/rep numbers. I'm not sure if you've ever tried doing 5x5s or 21s, but its good to switch things up to keep building muscle. You need to keep your muscles guessing.

MuddyREX · 05-22-2012, 08:46 PM

Holy crap man. You look like a different person.

CleanNeon98 · 07-17-2012, 12:32 PM

Before (lol):

I'm noticing putting on a slight belly again but I'm trying to eat so much to keep myself going it's hard not to. Hopefully I can cut soon. Happy with how the back is doing so far, been back in the gym since 11-10-11 so here is today's shots
After:

Changes happen slower and slower the further I get into it

. I did however just start this plan to change it up

http://www.bodybuilding.com/guides/m...building/intro

05-03-2012, 12:40 PM	#342
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	I did some reading and consulting with some guys and am going to try an 8 week cycle of this. If I notice any obvious and bad side effects I'll cut it off. I'm on day 3 right now, so I think it's too early to tell, but maybe in another 2 weeks I'll have a better idea. It's pretty new but a there's a thread on BB.com with people's actual bloodwork results, etc. and apparently its the real deal. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver Last edited by CleanNeon98; 05-03-2012 at 12:42 PM.

05-05-2012, 09:36 AM	#344
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Old? hahahah __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

05-17-2012, 11:11 AM	#349
StylezTA Tri-State Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bucks County, Pa Member #4984 iTrader: (1)	And how much do u weigh now? __________________ - 2007 CBR 1000RR - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

05-18-2012, 04:55 PM	#350
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Right now about 165lbs. I find that I'm getting stronger but not really putting one a lot of weight. Definitely seeing toning differences though. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

05-19-2012, 09:09 AM	#351
StylezTA Tri-State Addict Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bucks County, Pa Member #4984 iTrader: (1)	same size as me then. nice man. keep lifting hard and keep reps between 8-12 on each set. i rep 210 for 3 sets between 8-12 reps. __________________ - 2007 CBR 1000RR - To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

05-02-2012, 08:40 PM	#341
andru1313 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: with my true love or my Garage which ever is warmer Member #717 My Ride: 2004 VW R32/2006 WW Evo IX MR iTrader: (1)	Naturals don't work great. The synthesics aka designer ones are Ok but hard on the liver HGH if it's real is very expensive. Also messes with a lot of stuff like insulin ect. You are young. I would stay away from messing around with your test. Only way to do it is if you have a dr that will do blood work and monitor your levels. Roids for example will elevate your redblood cell count and coming off can reek havok on your hormones. Also can cause depression. You end up really shutting down your natural production of test and at a young age that is a bad thing us older guys have it a bit easier. If you want to talk spacifics lmk. You should never go into any supplement without knowing the hard facts. I have done it all so I feel that I have a good knowledge in most of the garbage on the market. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-04-2012, 09:30 PM	#343
schaffer Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Central PA Member #16147 My Ride: 2015 Tacoma. iTrader: (0)	In a non homo way. You look old man,nice transformation.

05-07-2012, 03:25 AM	#345
schaffer Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Central PA Member #16147 My Ride: 2015 Tacoma. iTrader: (0)	Good. Damn phone musta auto corrected.

05-19-2012, 10:09 AM	#352
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	I usually aim for as much weight as I can do 3x8. Usually warm up to it, if I bench I do a set at 155, then move to 185 for 2x8 and the 3rd as many as I can. __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver

05-22-2012, 10:04 AM	#353
HatchSurfer3 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2005 Member #853 My Ride: 2013 Ford Focus ST iTrader: (4)	Are you always keeping the same workouts and set/reps? I haven't read all of this thread but you have to make sure you keep switching up your workouts, even if its just switching between dumbbell and barbell bench press, cable/dumbbell flies, etc. Also, try switching up your set/rep numbers. I'm not sure if you've ever tried doing 5x5s or 21s, but its good to switch things up to keep building muscle. You need to keep your muscles guessing. __________________ -Joey- FRP™ #5 Last edited by HatchSurfer3; 05-22-2012 at 10:08 AM.

05-22-2012, 08:46 PM	#354
MuddyREX Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perkasie, PA Member #82 My Ride: 02 Subaru WRX iTrader: (4)	Holy crap man. You look like a different person. __________________ The original, since 1979. <---- 190,000 mile WRX - Gone To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

07-17-2012, 12:32 PM	#355
CleanNeon98 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia Member #2029 My Ride: "Honey Badger" Turbo Miata iTrader: (8)	Before (lol): I'm noticing putting on a slight belly again but I'm trying to eat so much to keep myself going it's hard not to. Hopefully I can cut soon. Happy with how the back is doing so far, been back in the gym since 11-10-11 so here is today's shots After: Changes happen slower and slower the further I get into it . I did however just start this plan to change it up http://www.bodybuilding.com/guides/m...building/intro __________________ 2004 MAZDASPEED MX-5 : 328whp / 308wtq / 2500lbs 2012 Toyota Prius 2 : Daily Driver Last edited by CleanNeon98; 07-17-2012 at 12:39 PM.

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