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Old 05-14-2012, 02:06 PM   #821
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Had a decent time for the most part. Traffic was a downer and the fact that 90% of the cars didn't even have their hoods popped wasn't thrilling. "Hella-flush" is taking over
Agreed that the sonic location was much better because of the layout. I was a vendor at both and the interest and foot traffic at the sonic show was much better. Here, VIP and vendors were a mile away from 90% of the cars, leaving a lot of people not wanting to travel far away from their cars and lock them if they did, leaving minimal open hoods.

My other issue is with the people that are coming to these shows with minimal respect for others and their property. My car was in my vendor booth with the hood popped and still someone screwed with my manual boost controller while I was not looking. Because it was so hot people also thought it was OK to go under one of our two tents in the vendor section without asking.
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:32 PM   #822
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My other issue is with the people that are coming to these shows with minimal respect for others and their property. My car was in my vendor booth with the hood popped and still someone screwed with my manual boost controller while I was not looking. Because it was so hot people also thought it was OK to go under one of our two tents in the vendor section without asking.
Which is partly why these events keep getting kicked out of various locations. The shame of it is, it's only a few who ruin it for the whole.
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Old 05-14-2012, 02:43 PM   #823
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Agreed that the sonic location was much better because of the layout. I was a vendor at both and the interest and foot traffic at the sonic show was much better. Here, VIP and vendors were a mile away from 90% of the cars, leaving a lot of people not wanting to travel far away from their cars and lock them if they did, leaving minimal open hoods.

My other issue is with the people that are coming to these shows with minimal respect for others and their property. My car was in my vendor booth with the hood popped and still someone screwed with my manual boost controller while I was not looking. Because it was so hot people also thought it was OK to go under one of our two tents in the vendor section without asking.
I guess my fear was proven true.. It's a shame people have to act like this.. My girlfriend didn't believe people would actually mess with somones car, but I assured her that people there would undoubtedly would mess with others cars.. I'll have to show this to her..
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:01 PM   #824
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Yes I must agree.

My Wagon was in the corner of VIP with me taking registration next to it almost all day. I did have my hood popped, almost all day as well. I did see and tell a few people to be hands off after seeing them attempting to possibly fiddle with one thing or another. I have a normal routine/mental checklist of things that I look over before shutting the hood and starting. Its the sad fact of the car show/meet seen that we the car owners have to deal with some of the populations deviousness.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:11 PM   #825
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Simple solution in my opinion....

If you are standing by your car hanging out, hood open. If you aren't, hood closed.

The only reason you show it off is so people see, and a lot of times more than not, people have questions and want to talk to you about it, which can only happen if you're standing there.

Further more, its a MEET, not a SHOW. You leave your hood popped for a show. Judging, votes from people, etc justify all day showing of your under hood.

*shrug* not saying it towards anyone. More of a blanket statement.

I in no way condone or excuse the fact that there are people that mess with others property, but if you leave your car unattended, you are the cause, not the people that are doing it.

Just how I think. That's all.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:27 PM   #826
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Simple solution in my opinion....

If you are standing by your car hanging out, hood open. If you aren't, hood closed.

The only reason you show it off is so people see, and a lot of times more than not, people have questions and want to talk to you about it, which can only happen if you're standing there.

Further more, its a MEET, not a SHOW. You leave your hood popped for a show. Judging, votes from people, etc justify all day showing of your under hood.

*shrug* not saying it towards anyone. More of a blanket statement.

I in no way condone or excuse the fact that there are people that mess with others property, but if you leave your car unattended, you are the cause, not the people that are doing it.

Just how I think. That's all.
Let me get this straight Pancoast....I was at my vendor booth next to my car all day. While talking to a client someone messed with my car with the hood open. With your logic this is my fault not the person illegally tampering with someone else vehicle. Well last week I also left my car in a parking garage while at a meeting. I guess if someone tampered with my brake lines it was my fault for parking in a parking garage.

BTW, if it is in fact a meet and not a show, why do vendors pay to advertise in booth and people pay for VIP parking....That makes it a show more than a meet.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:30 PM   #827
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BTW, if it is in fact a meet and not a show, why do vendors pay to advertise in booth and people pay for VIP parking....That makes it a show more than a meet.
Venders paid because it was cheap advertising and it was for a good cause. VIP people paid because its was for a good cause, or like myself didn't want to deal with parking headaches.

It was a meet because there is no judging.
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My hood was popped. I don't think there is anything unreasonable about expecting to be able to leave your hood open without your **** getting messed with (and nobody messed with mine). Apparently I'm wrong and we live in ghetto central. Next time I'll keep it closed. I never popped mine before because there was nothing to see ;)

I enjoyed the ridiculous v8 white e36 someone had. I didn't look hard but it looked like it was carbureted. Who owns the HPF m3? I wasn't aware that there were any in the area. Looked super clean.

I dunno, generally there were a few issues here and there but the whole thing seems remarkably well done. Thanks for throwing it together troll and friends!

And lets be honest. It was pretty much better than the philly auto show this year.
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Old 05-14-2012, 03:34 PM   #829
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Venders paid because it was cheap advertising and it was for a good cause. VIP people paid because its was for a good cause, or like myself didn't want to deal with parking headaches.

It was a meet because there is no judging.
We can split hairs between meet and show all we want. I feel it was more of a benefit show than a meet but we all have different views. In this regards money was raised for a good cause, and I hope more than last year.

The point originally being made is for people to show off thier cars and have a good time, not come with fear of cars being tampered with.
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Venders paid because it was cheap advertising and it was for a good cause. VIP people paid because its was for a good cause, or like myself didn't want to deal with parking headaches.

It was a meet because there is no judging.
I find it ironic that I have been to countless other shows/meets, etc., not offiliated with TST and have left my hood open and my vehicle unattended and nobody ever bothered with anything. Just goes to show the level of immaturity and the lack of respect by attendees. This is in no way a bash towards TST as they can't control who comes and who doesn't, but rather against the bad apples who spoil it for the bunch.
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Looked like a decent turn out . Just wished that I could have gptten there earlier.
You were there and didn't even stop by to chat with me? You SOB.
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Yes, the philly auto show seems to get lamer every year.


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My hood was popped. I don't think there is anything unreasonable about expecting to be able to leave your hood open without your **** getting messed with (and nobody messed with mine). Apparently I'm wrong and we live in ghetto central. Next time I'll keep it closed. I never popped mine before because there was nothing to see ;)

I enjoyed the ridiculous v8 white e36 someone had. I didn't look hard but it looked like it was carbureted. Who owns the HPF m3? I wasn't aware that there were any in the area. Looked super clean.

I dunno, generally there were a few issues here and there but the whole thing seems remarkably well done. Thanks for throwing it together troll and friends!

And lets be honest. It was pretty much better than the philly auto show this year.
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Let me get this straight Pancoast....I was at my vendor booth next to my car all day. While talking to a client someone messed with my car with the hood open. With your logic this is my fault not the person illegally tampering with someone else vehicle. Well last week I also left my car in a parking garage while at a meeting. I guess if someone tampered with my brake lines it was my fault for parking in a parking garage..

No. When you park in a parking garage, you are... In a parking garage. When you park your car at an event like this, an event that you KNOW there are more idiot kids than mature car enthusiasts and leave your hood open, you are at fault because it's your car...

Don't want people touching your stuff then don't leave it out in the open to touch it.

You were with a client not paying complete attention to your car. That's not watching your car and its unattended because if it were the guy wouldn't have touched it.

It's your car. You leave it open for mischief it's going to happen. People who bitch about others touching their car are just as baffling to me as the people tamper with the cars... Sorry.

It's a charity meet benefitting make a wish... That's why people pay. Donations...

Just because money and vendors are present doesnt make it a show.

Again. Blanket statement and not trying to offend anyone. But if you leave your car open and someone takes or messes with your ****, it's your problem.

That's like me saying that its not my fault my head unit gets stolen when I left my car open overnight. Oh but wait, I expect people not to do that to me because I don't to them? Get real lol.
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Old 05-14-2012, 04:34 PM   #834
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so pissed i missed this meet looked like a blast! More or less people then last years sonic meet?
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half the cars werent even parked the right direction to make it worth popping hoods. and under my hood is just a stock m3 motor really not worth poppin the hood :-\
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No. When you park in a parking garage, you are... In a parking garage. When you park your car at an event like this, an event that you KNOW there are more idiot kids than mature car enthusiasts and leave your hood open, you are at fault because it's your car...

Don't want people touching your stuff then don't leave it out in the open to touch it.

You were with a client not paying complete attention to your car. That's not watching your car and its unattended because if it were the guy wouldn't have touched it.

It's your car. You leave it open for mischief it's going to happen. People who bitch about others touching their car are just as baffling to me as the people tamper with the cars... Sorry.

It's a charity meet benefitting make a wish... That's why people pay. Donations...

Just because money and vendors are present doesnt make it a show.

Again. Blanket statement and not trying to offend anyone. But if you leave your car open and someone takes or messes with your ****, it's your problem.

That's like me saying that its not my fault my head unit gets stolen when I left my car open overnight. Oh but wait, I expect people not to do that to me because I don't to them? Get real lol.

We then dan, by your logic it is also you fault you have noisy neighbors you can not deal with. You decided to park your ass their to live and by your logic then it is your fault. Tampering with someones car is illegal. PERIOD. It is a charity show for a good cause, a hood open at a vendor booth is not an invitation to mess with a boost controller. Is it my problem to deal with yes, but your statement prior said it was my fault. If someone breaks into your car to steal something it is not your fault, not even in the eyes of an insurance company which is why it falls under comprehensive NOT AT FAULT coverage. The same goes if someone tampers with your car like putting sugar in a gas tank, NOT AT FAULT comprehensive coverage. If you park in a parking garage and someone screws with your car, again NOT AT FAULT. If you are at a car show being a sponsor displaying a car and someone screws with it, it is far from my fault. Its like saying the crack addict who willingly chooses to buy crack is not at fault for his OD, just pass the blame to someone else for his OD. Everyone is quick to pass the buck. But I will show up to a car show with a shell next time and roll it off a flat bed and lock it in a glass case.

My statement was originally that their were to many immature kids at these shows which you agreed with, hence why I am debating no longer attending these shows. But for you to come with a statement saying that immature vandals screwing with cars is the owners fault is BS and saying no offense and not targeted at anyone does not make a statement any better.
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"hella flush" is officially taking over/played out haha.
I yearn for the days when we get back to proper fitment...

Yeah.. you're real cool with your 225's on 10.5" wheels and -600 camber..

Stick some 295 section Advan Neova's on those 10.5" wide wheels with a real corner balance and you'll get respect from me. (and many other true car guys)
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We then dan, by your logic it is also you fault you have noisy neighbors you can not deal with. You decided to park your ass their to live and by your logic then it is your fault. Tampering with someones car is illegal. PERIOD. It is a charity show for a good cause, a hood open at a vendor booth is not an invitation to mess with a boost controller. Is it my problem to deal with yes, but your statement prior said it was my fault. If someone breaks into your car to steal something it is not your fault, not even in the eyes of an insurance company which is why it falls under comprehensive NOT AT FAULT coverage. The same goes if someone tampers with your car like putting sugar in a gas tank, NOT AT FAULT comprehensive coverage. If you park in a parking garage and someone screws with your car, again NOT AT FAULT. If you are at a car show being a sponsor displaying a car and someone screws with it, it is far from my fault. Its like saying the crack addict who willingly chooses to buy crack is not at fault for his OD, just pass the blame to someone else for his OD. Everyone is quick to pass the buck. But I will show up to a car show with a shell next time and roll it off a flat bed and lock it in a glass case.

My statement was originally that their were to many immature kids at these shows which you agreed with, hence why I am debating no longer attending these shows. But for you to come with a statement saying that immature vandals screwing with cars is the owners fault is BS and saying no offense and not targeted at anyone does not make a statement any better.
Fair enough.

With all due respect, this thread is not the place for us 2 hard heads to bicker and argue our points lol. I also never said anything about car insurance factoring into things happening to your car, but moving on.

Let's hear how much money we raised and start talking how to make it better. No I wasn't there but I've talked to quite a few people about some issues and likes/dislikes.

We can continue our convo over a beer and some paperwork to switch my car insurance
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I only popped my hood once when I was standing next to my car and I asked some people eying my ride if they wanted to see under the hood. (I only have an intake and custom washers, but I figured why not.)

Overall, I enjoyed myself and so did my younger cousin who tagged along with me. I bought some raffle tickets, food, and t-shirt. I also won a dyno tune so I was pretty happy.

I would like to see cars parked by make/model next year, but I understand the logistics can be difficult for an event this size. The only gripe I had with people who were in attendance was the fact that trash cans were located everywhere, but people dumped their trash wherever they pleased. (I left around 5 pm and the lot was full of trash.)
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half the cars werent even parked the right direction to make it worth popping hoods. and under my hood is just a stock m3 motor really not worth poppin the hood :-\
Not to insult others but a stock 01 M3 engine (S54) is better eye candy than many of the rides there.

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Yeah.. you're real cool with your 225's on 10.5" wheels and -600 camber..

Stick some 295 section Advan Neova's on those 10.5" wide wheels with a real corner balance and you'll get respect from me. (and many other true car guys)
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Say what you say about the popped hoods, but me personally, I think they ALL should be popped... even the filthy stockers. I love all the mods, hyper cleanliness and beautiful designs even from the factory.
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