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mitsuboost30 · 12-21-2010, 11:58 PM

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/21/f...one-happy-abo/

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DC2.2GSR · 12-22-2010, 12:09 AM

It's a f***in' crying shame that it's things like this that get people worked up instead of things that actually matter.

nuTinmuch · 12-22-2010, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR

It's a f***in' crying shame that it's things like this that get people worked up instead of things that actually matter.

yeah man, i can't see how this could be pretty big at all

(though I'll give you it is quite sensationalized -- but every "issue" is)

bmatyeah · 12-22-2010, 07:28 AM

I am really not seeing the bad for me? FCC cant make laws.

jpalamar · 12-22-2010, 08:45 AM

I don't think this is a big deal.

Subie_sleeper · 12-22-2010, 09:08 AM

I got the vibe that they're going to be able to charge end users based on how much bandwidth is used. I could be wrong, wouldn't that hit online games pretty hard? Just asking.

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Scapegoat · 12-22-2010, 11:05 AM

from my understanding there appears to be a potential tiered system of service.

the more you pay the better your service, IE: your requests get priority.

I don't think it's going to be a pay-per-bandwidth type of thing. at least, it better not be. But i havent read anything in that regards.

kind of like buying a car

i spent more money on a gt when i could have settled for a v6 mustang instead. I'm paying for a faster car...

I'm not sure how i feel... i can go both ways on the issue.

on one hand, these companies are spending a ton of money building the infrastructure and should be able to charge as they see fit and should be able to accept money from customers and advertisers for preferential treatment.

on the other hand... i don't want to see my service degenerate because of this and i certainly don't want to be denied access to various internet sources because i'm not paying a premium or because comcast, for instance, doesnt have a contract with say... yahoo and block all of the websites owned by them.

i feel the potential for blocking content is far more nefarious than preferential treatment and something i am far more concerned about.

and it's a crying shame people can't be upset about something without others attempting to downplay the importance of an issue because they deem it unimportant to themselves.

this is a big issue for me... being in IT... being in web development. what if comcast decides to block all of my employer's websites unless they pay a large fee? and what if my company is unable to pay that fee? what if comcast decides to block the companies i generally use to host my websites?

Scapegoat · 12-22-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jpalamar

I don't think this is a big deal.

it's going to be a big deal when politicians pay companies to block certain websites.

we're talking about freedom of speech on the internet. gov doesn't like wikileaks... well, how about they pay comcast to make it so all of their users are unable to access the site? it obviously extends past just wikileaks.

it's no good

c0nfl1kt · 12-22-2010, 03:48 PM

I worked in the telecommunications industry for years and years. Certain services already get priority service over others. The internet is not going to change at all. Get over yourselves and stop pretending the end is nigh. The end has been nigh for decades now and everyone is noticing the trend that you are all just crying wolf.

nuTinmuch · 12-22-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by c0nfl1kt

I worked in the telecommunications industry for years and years.

This explains why you come off as a really bitter dude! :p

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we're talking about freedom of speech on the internet. gov doesn't like wikileaks... well, how about they pay comcast to make it so all of their users are unable to access the site? it obviously extends past just wikileaks.

Basically, this.

It also raises the question of where the Government's jurisdiction ends/begins on the internet.

Obviously this isn't a "SCREAM AND PROTEST" sort of issue, but it does have implications that you probably shouldn't ignore.

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on one hand, these companies are spending a ton of money building the infrastructure

I wish this was true to some degree. :/

We are lagging behind so much when it comes to network infrastructure.

c0nfl1kt · 12-22-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

This explains why you come off as a really bitter dude! :p

You are full of quirky remarks but zero content. Do you even know what network neutrality is? You do know that they passed a set of regulations to allow network neutrality to stay intact, right?

nuTinmuch · 12-22-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by c0nfl1kt

You are full of quirky remarks but zero content. Do you even know what network neutrality is? You do know that they passed a set of regulations to allow network neutrality to stay intact, right?

This is the second time you've said this right when I explained my point in the very post you quoted!

Next time, read my post in full. I'll clarify:

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Obviously this isn't a "SCREAM AND PROTEST" sort of issue, but it does have implications that you probably shouldn't ignore.

I'm fully aware of what net neutrality is and likewise, I'm also aware that recently the FCC has (partially) warmed up to the idea. That doesn't mean the issue is completely swept under the rug, though. It isn't something worth getting ultra pissed about, but you shouldn't be completely apathetic toward it either.

Basically I'm saying "pay attention" and that's it. You worked in telecom, so you should fully understand the implications (potential ones) this has. Like I said, is it worth panic? No. But is it worth keeping up on the news? Absolutely.

mitsuboost30 · 12-22-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Scapegoat

it's going to be a big deal when politicians pay companies to block certain websites.

we're talking about freedom of speech on the internet. gov doesn't like wikileaks... well, how about they pay comcast to make it so all of their users are unable to access the site? it obviously extends past just wikileaks.

it's no good

WOOOOW

somone finally gets it!! this is just opening a door to other things...
they cant just jump into it or would be rejected in so many ways.. this is the first step

and i didnt post this like OMG the internet is coming to an end next week... just an issue that COULD affect everyone...

bmwdinamo · 12-26-2010, 01:09 PM

what u guys think about julian asange? terrorist or freedom fighter?

enohand · 12-29-2010, 12:55 PM

freedom fighter definatly.

without people like him, Colgan (airline) would still be in buisness, possibly Enron, & a few other big compaines that do illegal ****.

I for one am ALL FOR Whistle blowers....doesnt matter if its my govt, or somone elses., people need to be called out on thier mistakes, & not hide them from the public,.....because if so, & people do find out, they are typically ALOT madded that you lied, or hid the issue, instead of coming right out with it

Proven · 01-01-2011, 07:52 PM

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Scapegoat TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: stop looking at my gold Member #1208 iTrader: (1)	from my understanding there appears to be a potential tiered system of service. the more you pay the better your service, IE: your requests get priority. I don't think it's going to be a pay-per-bandwidth type of thing. at least, it better not be. But i havent read anything in that regards. kind of like buying a car i spent more money on a gt when i could have settled for a v6 mustang instead. I'm paying for a faster car... I'm not sure how i feel... i can go both ways on the issue. on one hand, these companies are spending a ton of money building the infrastructure and should be able to charge as they see fit and should be able to accept money from customers and advertisers for preferential treatment. on the other hand... i don't want to see my service degenerate because of this and i certainly don't want to be denied access to various internet sources because i'm not paying a premium or because comcast, for instance, doesnt have a contract with say... yahoo and block all of the websites owned by them. i feel the potential for blocking content is far more nefarious than preferential treatment and something i am far more concerned about. and it's a crying shame people can't be upset about something without others attempting to downplay the importance of an issue because they deem it unimportant to themselves. this is a big issue for me... being in IT... being in web development. what if comcast decides to block all of my employer's websites unless they pay a large fee? and what if my company is unable to pay that fee? what if comcast decides to block the companies i generally use to host my websites?

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c0nfl1kt Tri-State Dictator Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD Member #10332 My Ride: Family car. iTrader: (1)	I worked in the telecommunications industry for years and years. Certain services already get priority service over others. The internet is not going to change at all. Get over yourselves and stop pretending the end is nigh. The end has been nigh for decades now and everyone is noticing the trend that you are all just crying wolf.

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