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**Got Insulin?** · 10-18-2010, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alansupra94

Yup.

The stock internals can handle upwards of 500hp. I have seen a few people at slowboy do it.

Problem comes down to tuning and knowing how to tune it properly.

Although I agree with your info, anything with the phrase "slowboy" is automatically discredited, IMHO.

kthackst · 10-20-2010, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Insulin?

Although I agree with your info, anything with the phrase "slowboy" is automatically discredited, IMHO.

Slowboy didn't build the stock block so it is possible. Lol.

EklipzGSXkid · 10-20-2010, 07:32 AM

No, But if they did the tuning.... I personally never had a problem with them. My friend spent ALOT of money on a built longblock out of one of their ''race cars'' a few years ago. They re-tuned it in his car with his mods and he made it half way home and the engine gave out and was completly ruined.

kthackst · 10-20-2010, 08:09 AM

I have heard a ton of absolute horror stories like that before. Installing rings incorrectly is a big one. Yeah I understand where you are coming from.

HaveBlue83 · 10-20-2010, 05:15 PM

i have heard bad about slowboy as well. i believe it was about the rings not correctly seated/impropr rings, and the block was all jacked up and scored up from it.

NEVER going to them. I will go to DSMgraveyard, Jayracing, or another place if i have work done.

**Got Insulin?** · 10-20-2010, 05:20 PM

Skip graveyard, too. Those guys are total hacks.

kthackst · 10-20-2010, 06:18 PM

I build my own. That way I know exactly what is going on in there. Lol.

HaveBlue83 · 10-20-2010, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Got Insulin?

Skip graveyard, too. Those guys are total hacks.

no ****?! damn that sucks, they have a LOT of stuff.

build my own.....one day i would love to. i am good with precision stuffs.

BTW, just got a quote to have my E3/16g rebuilt for $160 since it's only got a month of use on it. yeee ha. now i can plan to use that in the future. It's been sitting on a shelf for over a year. tisk-tisk. might as well since you all said to stop being a scaredy cat.

TalonTsi97 · 10-20-2010, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaveBlue83

no ****?! damn that sucks, they have a LOT of stuff.

build my own.....one day i would love to. i am good with precision stuffs.

BTW, just got a quote to have my E3/16g rebuilt for $160 since it's only got a month of use on it. yeee ha. now i can plan to use that in the future. It's been sitting on a shelf for over a year. tisk-tisk. might as well since you all said to stop being a scaredy cat.

$350 (don't quote me but thats what i remember them telling me) for a FP HTA rebuild is so insanely worth it

Foolinaround · 10-20-2010, 09:45 PM

just got to eklipzkid or whatever.

HaveBlue83 · 10-20-2010, 09:47 PM

i heard about that retrofit rebuild. i'm gonna just have mine fixed. i will need funds for supporting mods for the 16g now....like FMIC, injectors, AFPR, and prolly cams when i install the 3g lifters.

I HAVE looked at that HTA. it DOES sound sick.

stover · 10-20-2010, 10:06 PM

ill be running same turbo with supporting mods, 16g, 660 injectors, BFMIC, gm 3" blow through, MAFT, SAFC2, 255 pump, AFPR, cant wait to get it on the road!

HaveBlue83 · 10-20-2010, 10:37 PM

^^u need link man. that SAFC isnt gonna cut it when u have knock and need to adjust ur timing.

I'm gonna stick with drawthough. I dont NEED the bowthrough yet. thought about it, but not yet.

TalonTsi97 · 10-20-2010, 11:00 PM

I've seen a evo maf, 1g bov car make 690whp. What makes you any different? lol
Same guy i mentioned helping you get it dialed in on the tune if needed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgk7Bf9NlF8

HaveBlue83 · 10-20-2010, 11:05 PM

^^i remember that car on craigslist as a part out, same picts. lol

i dont mind help. i'm sure i will have questions once i get link in and i start tuning.

EklipzGSXkid · 10-20-2010, 11:14 PM

Wait till you all see the picture of a dsm i'm tearing down currently..... It's funny that some in the past said I "hack" cars together (When I post full pics ETC of my builds). Now, Since I am constantly buying these cars and re-doing them, Or parting them, I never realized how many people actually hack these things together. I've bought cars from people who bad talk me and others (Good enough to sell me a car though?), And when I tear into the car, It's a complete disaster from bumper to bumper.

I'll upload the picture in the next 15-20 minutes. I actually had a few dsmer's at my garage from out of town (In PA though), That were buying some parts/transmission off of me. They watched me pull the motor/trans, And they are the ones that spotted what I'll be showing pictures of. I was at a loss for words.

HaveBlue83 · 10-20-2010, 11:17 PM

i'll wait for it......is it a different cars front clip welded to the frame??? lol.

EklipzGSXkid · 10-20-2010, 11:21 PM

That would have been better..... But apparently frame rails are over-rated.

TalonTsi97 · 10-20-2010, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaveBlue83

^^i remember that car on craigslist as a part out, same picts. lol

i dont mind help. i'm sure i will have questions once i get link in and i start tuning.

He parted it, budget built a evo 8 and had 535whp (pump/meth) in a few weeks time basically. Went low 11's on pump only already as well.

I just look at it like this. You don't have to max out a 16g or whatever turbo rite away. The $350 spent now on the HTA would be worth it in the long run, and then you can continue saving for the supporting stuff. Plus you seem to like the t25, its still working, and there is no rush so why not especially if you don't have much money invested into the 16g to begin with.
Either way even a simple evo3 16g setup can put you at 300whp (dynojet). As long as the motor is healthy and maintenance is up to date you should be good. Check out my friends car here, mod list is posted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id8UCP5dvHU

EklipzGSXkid · 10-20-2010, 11:28 PM

Here's for starters. It's bigger, And worse in person. There's no subframe bolt going through the subframe to the frame rail, Either. The one bolt to the control arm was finger tight, But not even on all the way. I'm glad I did not finish the car being it ''didn't need much'', And sell the car and ahve someone get killed..... Then I'd be getting the blame for this. I'm cutting the car in pieces now.

The entire harness is a MESS. Along with a few other parts of it. I pulled the trans tonite. There was no speed sensor. It had a Rubber glove blocking the whole... Ha ha ?

I am not posting any names of who owned this car, Because I have no idea which owner owned it, But I know every owner who owned it was a dsmer' and are on different forums. I'm not trying to call anyone out, I'm just posting for some people to see what gets done to these cars.

10-20-2010, 05:15 PM	#865
HaveBlue83 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Williamsport, PA Member #13212 My Ride: '14 Fiesta ST, 93 Summit Coupe iTrader: (4)	i have heard bad about slowboy as well. i believe it was about the rings not correctly seated/impropr rings, and the block was all jacked up and scored up from it. NEVER going to them. I will go to DSMgraveyard, Jayracing, or another place if i have work done. __________________ '93 4G63T Eagle Summit Coupe \| 95 TSi \| 99 Spyder Guns, Girls & Cars... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-20-2010, 05:20 PM	#866
Got Insulin? Hard Snarker Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Philly Member #7591 My Ride: 01 Audi TT 225, GVR-4 #72/1000, 91 TSi AWD iTrader: (16)	Skip graveyard, too. Those guys are total hacks. __________________ -Taylor DenOfDebauchery

10-20-2010, 09:45 PM	#870
Foolinaround TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: McGuire AFB Member #9448 My Ride: 2016 GTI SE w/PP/Boeing C-17 Globemaster III iTrader: (2)	just got to eklipzkid or whatever. __________________ -John C-17 Loadmaster DenOfDebauchery

10-20-2010, 09:47 PM	#871
HaveBlue83 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Williamsport, PA Member #13212 My Ride: '14 Fiesta ST, 93 Summit Coupe iTrader: (4)	i heard about that retrofit rebuild. i'm gonna just have mine fixed. i will need funds for supporting mods for the 16g now....like FMIC, injectors, AFPR, and prolly cams when i install the 3g lifters. I HAVE looked at that HTA. it DOES sound sick. __________________ '93 4G63T Eagle Summit Coupe \| 95 TSi \| 99 Spyder Guns, Girls & Cars... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-20-2010, 10:06 PM	#872
stover Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: allentown nj Member #3483 My Ride: 2005 MINI Cooper S iTrader: (5)	ill be running same turbo with supporting mods, 16g, 660 injectors, BFMIC, gm 3" blow through, MAFT, SAFC2, 255 pump, AFPR, cant wait to get it on the road! __________________ 89 Jetta GLI - VR6 turbo in progress 05 MINI Cooper S - Daily toy

10-20-2010, 07:32 AM	#863
EklipzGSXkid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: PA Member #4554 iTrader: (13)	No, But if they did the tuning.... I personally never had a problem with them. My friend spent ALOT of money on a built longblock out of one of their ''race cars'' a few years ago. They re-tuned it in his car with his mods and he made it half way home and the engine gave out and was completly ruined.

10-20-2010, 08:09 AM	#864
kthackst Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: May 2009 Location: York Member #13722 My Ride: 1997 Eclipse GSX iTrader: (3)	I have heard a ton of absolute horror stories like that before. Installing rings incorrectly is a big one. Yeah I understand where you are coming from.

10-20-2010, 06:18 PM	#867
kthackst Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: May 2009 Location: York Member #13722 My Ride: 1997 Eclipse GSX iTrader: (3)	I build my own. That way I know exactly what is going on in there. Lol.

10-20-2010, 10:37 PM	#873
HaveBlue83 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Williamsport, PA Member #13212 My Ride: '14 Fiesta ST, 93 Summit Coupe iTrader: (4)	^^u need link man. that SAFC isnt gonna cut it when u have knock and need to adjust ur timing. I'm gonna stick with drawthough. I dont NEED the bowthrough yet. thought about it, but not yet. __________________ '93 4G63T Eagle Summit Coupe \| 95 TSi \| 99 Spyder Guns, Girls & Cars... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-20-2010, 11:00 PM	#874
TalonTsi97 TST Ruined My Life! Join Date: Jan 2005 Member #136 My Ride: 1997 Eagle Talon iTrader: (21)	I've seen a evo maf, 1g bov car make 690whp. What makes you any different? lol Same guy i mentioned helping you get it dialed in on the tune if needed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgk7Bf9NlF8 __________________ 1997 Eagle Talon Tsi To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Updated weekly with Dyno, Track, AutoX, Street, and Event videos. Big updates coming soon! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-20-2010, 11:05 PM	#875
HaveBlue83 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Williamsport, PA Member #13212 My Ride: '14 Fiesta ST, 93 Summit Coupe iTrader: (4)	^^i remember that car on craigslist as a part out, same picts. lol i dont mind help. i'm sure i will have questions once i get link in and i start tuning. __________________ '93 4G63T Eagle Summit Coupe \| 95 TSi \| 99 Spyder Guns, Girls & Cars... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Last edited by HaveBlue83; 10-20-2010 at 11:13 PM.

10-20-2010, 11:14 PM	#876
EklipzGSXkid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: PA Member #4554 iTrader: (13)	Wait till you all see the picture of a dsm i'm tearing down currently..... It's funny that some in the past said I "hack" cars together (When I post full pics ETC of my builds). Now, Since I am constantly buying these cars and re-doing them, Or parting them, I never realized how many people actually hack these things together. I've bought cars from people who bad talk me and others (Good enough to sell me a car though?), And when I tear into the car, It's a complete disaster from bumper to bumper. I'll upload the picture in the next 15-20 minutes. I actually had a few dsmer's at my garage from out of town (In PA though), That were buying some parts/transmission off of me. They watched me pull the motor/trans, And they are the ones that spotted what I'll be showing pictures of. I was at a loss for words.

10-20-2010, 11:17 PM	#877
HaveBlue83 Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Williamsport, PA Member #13212 My Ride: '14 Fiesta ST, 93 Summit Coupe iTrader: (4)	i'll wait for it......is it a different cars front clip welded to the frame??? lol. __________________ '93 4G63T Eagle Summit Coupe \| 95 TSi \| 99 Spyder Guns, Girls & Cars... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

10-20-2010, 11:21 PM	#878
EklipzGSXkid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: PA Member #4554 iTrader: (13)	That would have been better..... But apparently frame rails are over-rated.

10-20-2010, 11:28 PM	#880
EklipzGSXkid Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: PA Member #4554 iTrader: (13)	Here's for starters. It's bigger, And worse in person. There's no subframe bolt going through the subframe to the frame rail, Either. The one bolt to the control arm was finger tight, But not even on all the way. I'm glad I did not finish the car being it ''didn't need much'', And sell the car and ahve someone get killed..... Then I'd be getting the blame for this. I'm cutting the car in pieces now. The entire harness is a MESS. Along with a few other parts of it. I pulled the trans tonite. There was no speed sensor. It had a Rubber glove blocking the whole... Ha ha ? I am not posting any names of who owned this car, Because I have no idea which owner owned it, But I know every owner who owned it was a dsmer' and are on different forums. I'm not trying to call anyone out, I'm just posting for some people to see what gets done to these cars. Last edited by EklipzGSXkid; 10-20-2010 at 11:31 PM.

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