Hawaii to install anti-drifting roads

[supraghost]

skinnier tires! lol


suck to wreck a motorcycle on that stuff. road rash FTL

[92sileighty]

Originally Posted by supraghost

skinnier tires! lol

wouldn't change a thing

[redtoprps13]

Originally Posted by 92sileighty

wouldn't change a thing

skinnier tires = less surface area= less traction= easier to drift......now make them junkyard quality ****ty tires and hello drifting....

[jspek]

hill climb > drifting

[redtoprps13]

Originally Posted by jspek

hill climb > drifting

hill climbing without tq is like waiting for bad sex.....

[supraghost]

Originally Posted by redtoprps13

hill climbing without tq is like waiting for bad sex.....

vtec baby

[redtoprps13]

Originally Posted by supraghost

vtec baby

if it has less tq than my lug nutsm it only shows up at **** and not actual letters

[jspek]

ka-t. lol

[92sileighty]

Originally Posted by redtoprps13

skinnier tires = less surface area= less traction= easier to drift......now make them junkyard quality ****ty tires and hello drifting....

tested the coefficient of friction of a wider tire and a skinner tire in physics class. same grip. tire size doesn't matter at all. same grip no matter how wide

[SovXietday]

Originally Posted by 92sileighty

tested the coefficient of friction of a wider tire and a skinner tire in physics class. same grip. tire size doesn't matter at all. same grip no matter how wide

I'm pretty certain there is a very good reason you don't see bicycle tires on F1 cars. Not to mention tall skinnies on the back of top fuel cars. Sounds like something is flawed in that test to me.

[redtoprps13]

Originally Posted by 92sileighty

tested the coefficient of friction of a wider tire and a skinner tire in physics class. same grip. tire size doesn't matter at all. same grip no matter how wide

why don't dragsters and nascar guys run narrow wheels?

why do you pick up time at the drag strip decreasing tire pressure(within reason)...

now there is a limit to how wide you can go

[92sileighty]

Originally Posted by redtoprps13

why don't dragsters and nascar guys run narrow wheels?

why do you pick up time at the drag strip decreasing tire pressure(within reason)...

now there is a limit to how wide you can go

dispersion of heat

[92sileighty]

Originally Posted by SovXietday

I'm pretty certain there is a very good reason you don't see bicycle tires on F1 cars. Not to mention tall skinnies on the back of top fuel cars. Sounds like something is flawed in that test to me.

don't get me wrong, i said the same thing, but he proved it. cant fight math.

[redtoprps13]

Originally Posted by 92sileighty

dispersion of heat

so you need to worry about heat dispersion on 12 second cars at the 1/4 mile trac? lowering tire pressure helps with dispersion of heat on 14 second hondas?.......heat helps with traction....wider hotter surface area of rubber on pavement = more traction

[twastheglow]

Originally Posted by 92sileighty

don't get me wrong, i said the same thing, but he proved it. cant fight math.

I'm not going to argue with you (I make a habit of not arguing points and topics I don't know enough about), but I cannot wrap my ****ing mind around this!!!

[redtoprps13]

Originally Posted by 92sileighty

don't get me wrong, i said the same thing, but he proved it. cant fight math.

actually you can dependent on the situation when you introduce outliers and other factors that throw your equation out the window..part of the reason averages exist.....like what happens on paper doesn't always happen on the street. how did you perform said tire test in physics class.

http://www.physicsforums.com/archive.../t-330790.html
Traction and friction are two (slightly) different concepts. Not only that but using car tires in a physics book is stupid (and something I've never actually seen before) simply because their coefficient can exceed 1, which changes everything. On top of that the standard equation does not account for deformation of the tire (which can be accounted ... Read Morefor through rolling resistance). Further more, even though the contact patch is the same regardless of tire size (generally) AT REST, the shape that it takes under dynamic load is better distributed by a slightly wider tire giving better traction. While a wider tire does gain some heat benefit from a greater surface area it's only a small part of it.

Never trust your physics book for real world situations. Life doesn't involve frictionless surfaces and weightless ropes.
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Mark Giannini
Also your argument of "it's for heat distribution" is stupid. If I am able to achieve a better coefficient of traction by keeping temperatures down through using a larger tire then I've still achieved more traction by using a larger tire.

[92sileighty]

want his email? lols i'm not gonna argue with what i was taught and proved correct in class. but from your comments, i think you guys are missing the point. with the same coefficient of friction on the tires, it doesn't matter if they are different size. While people run bigger tires, they also run a different grip rating (coefficient of friction) which would mean better/worse grip. in our case, better. you simpy stated run a bigger tire, and i simply stated that idea was worthless. but if you said bigger tires, different coefficient of friction rating, then you would be correct. but still, its crazy how a bigger tire with the same rating makes no difference in grip.

[redtoprps13]

Originally Posted by 92sileighty

want his email? lols i'm not gonna argue with what i was taught and proved correct in class. but from your comments, i think you guys are missing the point. with the same coefficient of friction on the tires, it doesn't matter if they are different size. While people run bigger tires, they also run a different grip rating (coefficient of friction) which would mean better/worse grip. in our case, better. you simpy stated run a bigger tire, and i simply stated that idea was worthless. but if you said bigger tires, different coefficient of friction rating, then you would be correct. but still, its crazy how a bigger tire with the same rating makes no difference in grip.

read my post
grip vs traction... yes they have the same grip but do they have the same traction is the answer...wider tires can offer more traction.

[twastheglow]

Originally Posted by redtoprps13

read my post
grip vs traction... yes they have the same grip but do they have the same traction is the answer...wider tires can offer more traction.

Ahhhhh...see, that was my mistake. I took grip to mean traction.

[92sileighty]

Originally Posted by redtoprps13

read my post
grip vs traction... yes they have the same grip but do they have the same traction is the answer...wider tires can offer more traction.

this might be the first win win "argument" on tristate, calls for a drink in my book