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mr_eh · 05-14-2010, 09:32 AM

the photoshop thing is somewhere in the menus, just click around for it and it's like export to html, dont have it in front of me

do this <body marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" topmargin="0" bottommargin="0" leftmargin="0" rightmargin="0">

bmatyeah · 05-14-2010, 09:44 AM

I agree with what has been said, there is alot of open space that needs to be filled. The colors, look so boring. in print i can see it working, its just not working online.

j0k3st3r_69 · 05-14-2010, 05:18 PM

OK well thanks everyone for help i redid a lot of it just now not the same the open space will be filled soon as i gt this all done i have many many photos of her work that i am still resizing to make smaller and taking clients names out.

Check it out now let me know and any color changes/fonts tell me if you want lighter darker bolder smaller underline...... thanks much guys

grimm · 05-14-2010, 06:33 PM

the changes look good and you are heading in the right direction.

if you have adobe photoshop, create an action for resizing the images, it will save you hours of time. (assuming they will all be the same height or width) or as i mentioned before, download jalbum, even if you don't use the web gallery it creates, it will re-size and create thumbnails for you in a batch must faster than adobe photoshop will or bridge. you can control the size and quality. spend 10 minutes and and try it. although if you want each image to be a different size. then manually is the only way to go.

Some other thoughts i had, don't take it the wrong way.

Your nav, i would inverse the sizing. make the buttons small in the "in-active" state and then make them large when they are "active". Have them grow as you roll over, and be large when your on the page.

everything is center justified? there are much more appealing layouts. think about what types of layouts people read every day, like newspapers, documents, etc etc people like to read in smallish column chuncks, usually justified in some way, it's easy on the eyes, people don't want to scan all the way across the screen to read a sentence. Also most center content that is center justified are invitations, some times cards, etc etc. so you just need to try and follow the norm and format things how people kind of expect them to be. kind of lame, but humans are creatures of habit.

for instance the cards page would look nice if the text was left justified (with proper padding) and there were sample images laid out like on the home page but vertical.

contact form needs a more professional font, and a smaller border, the beveled border is really dated.

Was that color scheme dictated to you? I would really change it, it's just not a good color for the web, i hope you don't mind but i edited the header, just did a simple adjustment with the color balance to make it a bit more appealing, at least to me.

well I hope that helps a bit.

j0k3st3r_69 · 05-14-2010, 06:39 PM

Thanks much man im uploading a new one just did and the header was color by the g.f that's what she wanted that i cant really mess with but the samples will be up tonight around 7-8pm i hope and i cant get on that site till im home work internet blocks it.....

trust me im very open you can tell me w.e you think i dont mine as long as its not you suck at life go him lol check out the changes

twizhimself · 05-14-2010, 07:42 PM

YIKES!

sorry man but the design of the site dosen't make me think you (i guess by you i mean the g/f?)know what your doing....no offense, im a graphic designer myself and we all start somewhere i wish i could find my first site..whoa!)

what i would do is cruise the interwebs and check out trends and up-to-date looks and go off that (shoot even if you see something and you take it and modify it to make it your own).

I understand that you want to sell the idea that you want to create affordable sites for people ..but i think your site should be eye-catching and lead me to believe that you can do better than some kid in 8th grade with a copy of iWeb on their parent's macbook..

if you need help, PM me and i can guide you.

if you want to see what ive done, check out these sites:
www.twiztidkid.com - redesigned in march
www.area1320.com
www.rutlerscreenprinting.com (really old..and hasnt been finished since i worked there in 05)

thats about it...

what i do now is work for an ad agency (www.midnightoilcreative.com) in Burbank, CA designing collateral (ads, displays, packaging, etc) for Activision (yes the game publisher)

j0k3st3r_69 · 05-14-2010, 07:55 PM

Sorry only been doing this for less then a year and im now going to school for it only did one class so far so i will get better as i take more classes i am doing it in dreamweaver. But i mean i been getting different things for a lot of i mean half say it looks good then some say like grimm say i am heading there but more work needed.

twizhimself what software you use dont mine me asking

twizhimself · 05-14-2010, 08:03 PM

yea im sure you will :-) again i wish i could find my stuff before i went to art school..lol

i use Dreamweaver/flash (if needed) to do my sites. (for my personal site this time around, i've cheated*..shh)

i usually start my laying out ideas in PS; and once ive decided, i go into coding the site and making it work

*i decided to "cheat" this time around because i'm a pretty busy guy these days. i needed a solution to help me keep my site up-to-date and more dynamic than my previous "from scratch" versions and make it easier to update and create new content in a minimal amount of time.

PS - tell your G/F that pink and borwn only works for cupcake companies..lol (its a dangerous combination for websites cuz if its not right..you end up with an ugly/boring looking page.)

heres a link to a color wheel..to help you with primary, complimentary and tertiary colors :-)

http://kuler.adobe.com/#create/fromacolor

it even provides cool "themes" of colors its pretty handy to have when doing something design wise

j0k3st3r_69 · 05-14-2010, 08:07 PM

to code how did you learn besides what dreamweaver does its self i tryed teaching my self flash it did not work i did dream/fireworks/sooooooom of photoshop.

j0k3st3r_69 · 05-14-2010, 08:11 PM

ya she in a pink brown because she just did 3 cakes for someone and a bunch of cards for a wedding. thats y i kind of changed it around with the colors you see what do you think the table background could be and the outside background might be just some ideas don't mine

twizhimself · 05-14-2010, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j0k3st3r_69

to code how did you learn besides what dreamweaver does its self i tryed teaching my self flash it did not work i did dream/fireworks/sooooooom of photoshop.

um...im going to try to decipher this..lol

i actually start doing sites when all you had was HTML. so i've been coding HTML since 1995. i kinda picked up flash when it was "hot" with flash 4 and kinda tried to keep myself up to date with books. I then got some books on Javascript and CSS and it all goes from there

i bought a TON of books in my 15 years of doing this. they are expensive but extremely valuable to bettering your skills. (im doing the same with my photography these days). If you cant afford the books..theres a TON of online tutorials that walk you thru doing whatever it is you need to do..

Knowing the software is KEY, but the more important trait to being a good designer is having an "eye" for what looks good and knowing what people want. then PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE.

ive got a ton of photographer buddies that know how to operate the cameras, lights, etc..but cant create a good photo to save their lives...(im not saying im an awesome photographer by any means..im learning tho...and i practice daily..so maybe ill be awesome one day..lol)

twizhimself · 05-14-2010, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j0k3st3r_69

ya she in a pink brown because she just did 3 cakes for someone and a bunch of cards for a wedding. thats y i kind of changed it around with the colors you see what do you think the table background could be and the outside background might be just some ideas don't mine

im not sure what youre asking me right here..

things i would change....you cant read the "designs" part of the logo - id choose a different font. or try to create a different logo.

and seriously that color scheme needs to go. if it has to be pink n brown, darken the brown and brighten the pink..and try to add a cream or white in there for accent. and dump that green..yuck

samples of OK sites:

http://www.pinkandbrownboutique.com/

http://www.pinkandbrownlove.com/

http://www.pinklovesbrown.com/

http://www.pinkonbrown.org/

j0k3st3r_69 · 05-14-2010, 08:21 PM

Ya i know what you mean. I learned my self how to do dreamwever and fireworks from books but flash is kind of harder for me right now. Also liek you im very busy with a full time warehouse supv part time security Gard and vol firefighter/emt and helping the g.f and her mom/dad with a 10year old and a 1 month old that was left when her sis passed away last month so ya. But i like the color wheel thanks muchhhh on that and i am going to work on this more but for my class it is good the teacher just wanted to see how make one its for a marketing class so ya.

twizhimself · 05-14-2010, 08:23 PM

PS - i designed this too..lol (just happened to be the ad on top of the page)

j0k3st3r_69 · 05-14-2010, 08:29 PM

i figured since you did there site. See my g.f needs to get out of the place she working at now because they are holding her back from opening her mind

j0k3st3r_69 · 05-14-2010, 08:37 PM

so sould i make the top banner/logo bigger...... everyone said make it smaller

j0k3st3r_69 · 05-14-2010, 10:03 PM

so i did a color change... let me know about the table where the brown is any ideas on different color or if it looks ok....

starting to get the photos up also

j0k3st3r_69 · 05-14-2010, 11:48 PM

OK i sent it in just for right now to the teacher so im not late...

This is just a grade that you can make a site that works with many pages and interesting things on it.....

Grimm and twizhimself if i ever get my car nice and bring it out and your there food/beer is on me thanks much will hit you both up later to some help getting this looking nice, but thanks so much for your help guys.

05-14-2010, 09:32 AM	#21
mr_eh Tri-State Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Member #1149 My Ride: Zenki S14 - Sold the SRT4 iTrader: (1)	the photoshop thing is somewhere in the menus, just click around for it and it's like export to html, dont have it in front of me do this <body marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" topmargin="0" bottommargin="0" leftmargin="0" rightmargin="0"> __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. no thread for current s2000.

05-14-2010, 05:18 PM	#23
j0k3st3r_69 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newtown and Morrisville Member #16340 My Ride: 2006 Ser Spec-v iTrader: (0)	OK well thanks everyone for help i redid a lot of it just now not the same the open space will be filled soon as i gt this all done i have many many photos of her work that i am still resizing to make smaller and taking clients names out. Check it out now let me know and any color changes/fonts tell me if you want lighter darker bolder smaller underline...... thanks much guys __________________ J0k3st3r69

05-14-2010, 06:33 PM	#24
grimm Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Member #3058 iTrader: (2)	the changes look good and you are heading in the right direction. if you have adobe photoshop, create an action for resizing the images, it will save you hours of time. (assuming they will all be the same height or width) or as i mentioned before, download jalbum, even if you don't use the web gallery it creates, it will re-size and create thumbnails for you in a batch must faster than adobe photoshop will or bridge. you can control the size and quality. spend 10 minutes and and try it. although if you want each image to be a different size. then manually is the only way to go. Some other thoughts i had, don't take it the wrong way. Your nav, i would inverse the sizing. make the buttons small in the "in-active" state and then make them large when they are "active". Have them grow as you roll over, and be large when your on the page. everything is center justified? there are much more appealing layouts. think about what types of layouts people read every day, like newspapers, documents, etc etc people like to read in smallish column chuncks, usually justified in some way, it's easy on the eyes, people don't want to scan all the way across the screen to read a sentence. Also most center content that is center justified are invitations, some times cards, etc etc. so you just need to try and follow the norm and format things how people kind of expect them to be. kind of lame, but humans are creatures of habit. for instance the cards page would look nice if the text was left justified (with proper padding) and there were sample images laid out like on the home page but vertical. contact form needs a more professional font, and a smaller border, the beveled border is really dated. Was that color scheme dictated to you? I would really change it, it's just not a good color for the web, i hope you don't mind but i edited the header, just did a simple adjustment with the color balance to make it a bit more appealing, at least to me. well I hope that helps a bit. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

05-14-2010, 06:39 PM	#25
j0k3st3r_69 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newtown and Morrisville Member #16340 My Ride: 2006 Ser Spec-v iTrader: (0)	Thanks much man im uploading a new one just did and the header was color by the g.f that's what she wanted that i cant really mess with but the samples will be up tonight around 7-8pm i hope and i cant get on that site till im home work internet blocks it..... trust me im very open you can tell me w.e you think i dont mine as long as its not you suck at life go him lol check out the changes __________________ J0k3st3r69

05-14-2010, 07:42 PM	#26
twizhimself Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Easton, PA Member #950 My Ride: 2004 Subaru WRX iTrader: (0)	YIKES! sorry man but the design of the site dosen't make me think you (i guess by you i mean the g/f?)know what your doing....no offense, im a graphic designer myself and we all start somewhere i wish i could find my first site..whoa!) what i would do is cruise the interwebs and check out trends and up-to-date looks and go off that (shoot even if you see something and you take it and modify it to make it your own). I understand that you want to sell the idea that you want to create affordable sites for people ..but i think your site should be eye-catching and lead me to believe that you can do better than some kid in 8th grade with a copy of iWeb on their parent's macbook.. if you need help, PM me and i can guide you. if you want to see what ive done, check out these sites: www.twiztidkid.com - redesigned in march www.area1320.com www.rutlerscreenprinting.com (really old..and hasnt been finished since i worked there in 05) thats about it... what i do now is work for an ad agency (www.midnightoilcreative.com) in Burbank, CA designing collateral (ads, displays, packaging, etc) for Activision (yes the game publisher) __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Last edited by twizhimself; 05-14-2010 at 07:57 PM.

05-14-2010, 09:44 AM	#22
bmatyeah Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: West Chester PA Member #4478 My Ride: 1997 Ford Mustang iTrader: (2)	I agree with what has been said, there is alot of open space that needs to be filled. The colors, look so boring. in print i can see it working, its just not working online.

05-14-2010, 07:55 PM	#27
j0k3st3r_69 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newtown and Morrisville Member #16340 My Ride: 2006 Ser Spec-v iTrader: (0)	Sorry only been doing this for less then a year and im now going to school for it only did one class so far so i will get better as i take more classes i am doing it in dreamweaver. But i mean i been getting different things for a lot of i mean half say it looks good then some say like grimm say i am heading there but more work needed. twizhimself what software you use dont mine me asking __________________ J0k3st3r69

05-14-2010, 08:03 PM	#28
twizhimself Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Easton, PA Member #950 My Ride: 2004 Subaru WRX iTrader: (0)	yea im sure you will :-) again i wish i could find my stuff before i went to art school..lol i use Dreamweaver/flash (if needed) to do my sites. (for my personal site this time around, i've cheated..shh) i usually start my laying out ideas in PS; and once ive decided, i go into coding the site and making it work i decided to "cheat" this time around because i'm a pretty busy guy these days. i needed a solution to help me keep my site up-to-date and more dynamic than my previous "from scratch" versions and make it easier to update and create new content in a minimal amount of time. PS - tell your G/F that pink and borwn only works for cupcake companies..lol (its a dangerous combination for websites cuz if its not right..you end up with an ugly/boring looking page.) heres a link to a color wheel..to help you with primary, complimentary and tertiary colors :-) http://kuler.adobe.com/#create/fromacolor it even provides cool "themes" of colors its pretty handy to have when doing something design wise __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Last edited by twizhimself; 05-14-2010 at 08:08 PM.

05-14-2010, 08:07 PM	#29
j0k3st3r_69 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newtown and Morrisville Member #16340 My Ride: 2006 Ser Spec-v iTrader: (0)	to code how did you learn besides what dreamweaver does its self i tryed teaching my self flash it did not work i did dream/fireworks/sooooooom of photoshop. __________________ J0k3st3r69

05-14-2010, 08:11 PM	#30
j0k3st3r_69 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newtown and Morrisville Member #16340 My Ride: 2006 Ser Spec-v iTrader: (0)	ya she in a pink brown because she just did 3 cakes for someone and a bunch of cards for a wedding. thats y i kind of changed it around with the colors you see what do you think the table background could be and the outside background might be just some ideas don't mine __________________ J0k3st3r69

05-14-2010, 08:21 PM	#33
j0k3st3r_69 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newtown and Morrisville Member #16340 My Ride: 2006 Ser Spec-v iTrader: (0)	Ya i know what you mean. I learned my self how to do dreamwever and fireworks from books but flash is kind of harder for me right now. Also liek you im very busy with a full time warehouse supv part time security Gard and vol firefighter/emt and helping the g.f and her mom/dad with a 10year old and a 1 month old that was left when her sis passed away last month so ya. But i like the color wheel thanks muchhhh on that and i am going to work on this more but for my class it is good the teacher just wanted to see how make one its for a marketing class so ya. __________________ J0k3st3r69

05-14-2010, 08:23 PM	#34
twizhimself Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Easton, PA Member #950 My Ride: 2004 Subaru WRX iTrader: (0)	PS - i designed this too..lol (just happened to be the ad on top of the page) __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

05-14-2010, 08:29 PM	#35
j0k3st3r_69 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newtown and Morrisville Member #16340 My Ride: 2006 Ser Spec-v iTrader: (0)	i figured since you did there site. See my g.f needs to get out of the place she working at now because they are holding her back from opening her mind __________________ J0k3st3r69

05-14-2010, 08:37 PM	#36
j0k3st3r_69 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newtown and Morrisville Member #16340 My Ride: 2006 Ser Spec-v iTrader: (0)	so sould i make the top banner/logo bigger...... everyone said make it smaller __________________ J0k3st3r69

05-14-2010, 10:03 PM	#37
j0k3st3r_69 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newtown and Morrisville Member #16340 My Ride: 2006 Ser Spec-v iTrader: (0)	so i did a color change... let me know about the table where the brown is any ideas on different color or if it looks ok.... starting to get the photos up also __________________ J0k3st3r69

05-14-2010, 11:48 PM	#38
j0k3st3r_69 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Newtown and Morrisville Member #16340 My Ride: 2006 Ser Spec-v iTrader: (0)	OK i sent it in just for right now to the teacher so im not late... This is just a grade that you can make a site that works with many pages and interesting things on it..... Grimm and twizhimself if i ever get my car nice and bring it out and your there food/beer is on me thanks much will hit you both up later to some help getting this looking nice, but thanks so much for your help guys. __________________ J0k3st3r69

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