Helppp..Nasty noise and feeling in clutch pedal

[subrwho]

Car has 62k and 3k on ACT 6-puck sprung and flywheel..

OK... i need some help...Washed the car and took it for a quick ride and got on it pretty good in 1st and the tires broke loose so i let off, push the clutch in to shift into second , put the shifter in second and as i am letting of there is a horrific spline agaisnt spline (grinding) in the clutch pedal (while in the process of engaging the clutch) . Once my foot is completely off the car runs and shifts fine, but every time i try to engage the clutch i get a that horrible grinding and spline on spline feeling. The actual shifting feels find not notchy at all..

I drained trans and transfer case fluid, No metal or particles or pieces

Pulled the axels. good shape

Pulled the transfer case... everything is good to go


about to pull trans now...


any ideas???? Someone said maybe the throwout bearing is seized??
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[The Captain]

Sounds like a T.o.b. issue to me.

[subrwho]

i have gotten that same response from one other person... also someone said broken clutch sping or disk... anyone else???

[The Captain]

Is it a 'grabby' engagement or still smooth, but noisy?

[subrwho]

engagement is very very harsh and loud...almost like spline on spline....soo weird....

[peteyturbo]

SOunds like you broke your clutch disc, but it is very tough to tell without experiencing it in person. Where are you located?

[subrwho]

about 5 min from john hempele.. he is a good buddy of mine....right near easton but on the jersey side

[Got Insulin?]

+2 for clutch disk, although one big problem with the sprung discs is that the can fragment or their springs can seemingly jump out of the disk without notice causing problems like the ones you are experiencing. Another thing, though highly unlikely because of the newness of your whip, could be the clutch fork. I know I change mine out every time I do a clutch job on the TSi because I run an ACT 2600, but my car is also almost 20 yrs old, but it's something to think about.

Kudos for doing all the footwork before coming on to pick our brains, too; there's something to be said about that. Good luck, and make sure to report your findings, and your results, back so that we this is searchable in the future.

[subrwho]

Originally Posted by Got Insulin?

+2 for clutch disk, although one big problem with the sprung discs is that the can fragment or their springs can seemingly jump out of the disk without notice causing problems like the ones you are experiencing. Another thing, though highly unlikely because of the newness of your whip, could be the clutch fork. I know I change mine out every time I do a clutch job on the TSi because I run an ACT 2600, but my car is also almost 20 yrs old, but it's something to think about.

Kudos for doing all the footwork before coming on to pick our brains, too; there's something to be said about that. Good luck, and make sure to report your findings, and your results, back so that we this is searchable in the future.

thanks man... i have had nothing but problems with act ... this is the 3rd time with a problem .... less than 10k on three different clutches... i will hopefully have the trans out tonight... any last input guys?

[Erik]

I dont know much about this to be honest, but, from my understanding, short shifters or short throw shifters can cause issues if it isnt installed correctly. you didnt mention anything about that, but have you installed one as of late? I hope its just you clutch and not your tranny. Good luck with the findings!

[subrwho]

no short shifter....hmmm

[peteyturbo]

pull the acces cover on the bottom and look for debris! Also look into the hole where the fork goes in at the top, just look for anythng out of the ordinary

[subrwho]

yeah i looked in both wholes and everything looks fine... hmm.. hopefully will have the trans out after work tonight... i am just having an issue releasing the trow out bearing...grr

[peteyturbo]

Originally Posted by subrwho

yeah i looked in both wholes and everything looks fine... hmm.. hopefully will have the trans out after work tonight... i am just having an issue releasing the trow out bearing...grr

I hear ya, I had to destroy my clip to get it out.. Some come out easy, and some not so much..Use a big screwdriver and wear gloves..

[subrwho]

how do you know when it is disconnected.... i have done this before but the 1st time it popped on the 1st try,,,,

[peteyturbo]

Originally Posted by subrwho

how do you know when it is disconnected.... i have done this before but the 1st time it popped on the 1st try,,,,

The clutch fork will move freely when it's "popped out"

[subrwho]

haha alright thats pete.... ****ed with it for like 3 hrs last night and no luckk.. going to try againn tonoight

[peteyturbo]

Originally Posted by subrwho

haha alright thats pete.... ****ed with it for like 3 hrs last night and no luckk.. going to try againn tonoight

been there done that.. Came back the next day and got it in 15 min...IF worse comes to worst you can remove the pressure plate and pull everything out through the access hole..

[gdmbat85]

Yea, you're going to find your problem in the clutch. It's either the throw out bearing or the pressure plate teeth/disc springs. Usually if it's just noise, it's the TOB. If the peddle is softer, its the teeth, and if engagement is wierd and jumpy, it's the springs. I personally refuse to use an ACT PP.

[subrwho]

ended up having to unbolt the pressure plate to get the trans out.. took like 45 min.. now that the trans is out.. how the hell do i get the throw out bearing off the pressure plate in order to remove everything??