TST's fixation with drag racing, why?

[ndubz]

It just seems that whenever we talk about a car as being fast or not, the first thing ppl do is say, "well it does the 1/4 mile in XX.XX at XXXmph". Now this is fine if ur talking about a drag racing car, but if ur talking about like ad elise or an audi S4. Then the 1/4 mile does not define them. The quarter only matters for drag racing cars. And i think its hilarious that alot of ppl with STis, evos, m3s, etc. Are so fixated on drag racing. Muscle car guys yes, that is the purpose of one. But the others, No. The 1/4 mile doesnt mean **** to a rally car, or to a car that was made for the Nurburgring. So why cant ppl see this. Cuz it really makes me wonder how much some ppl know about cars. Ad I laugh because for like an elise, the 1/4 mile is pointless. Heres an example. If a guy with a mustang claims to have defeated a Ferrari F430. Id ask him how. If he said that he beat it in a 1/4 mile drag race, then id tell him he is only 1/3 of the way to beating the ferrari. The F430 is designed to go around the racetrack. Road courses like Fiorano, NJMP, Mugello, etc. So if his mustang can beat the F430 around tracks like those, then it can be said that he has defeated the F430. Different cars are designed for different things. So if u cant beat a car at what it is made for, then u havent won ****. Id like to see a drag spec mustang with 800whp even come close to beating a lotus Exige around a track like road atlanta. At the same time the exige has no chance if it were a straight line race.

So why does everyone look at all cars as if they were dragsters? because that is a very simplistic way to see cars.

[ASIAN JUL]

Considering there's no real objective test to measure every car and every aspect of every car comprehensively, drag racing is just a part of deciding what a car is capable of.

[phate1229]

Because it's easy for just about everybody here to get to the strip at least once.

[drifty240]

its just a standard of measurment that most people know.... as for who races who in a drag race, if you race heads up and lose you lose. You chose to race a 1/4 mile, stop crying about my car would be faster on a track or in the rain. If your talking about what car is better overall that is diffrent.

oh and for the comment about rally cars not caring about 1/4 mile times. what are you talking about , what form of motorsport does not care about acceleration

[OMGz Turbo]

Not all "race tracks" or road courses ill say are created equal so you cant use that as a form of measurement. People consider the 1/4 a way to know exactly what kind of power their machine makes. Its always the same distance, and works wonders

[SkinnyGT]

Yes different cars are designed for different things. One thing they all share in common is acceleration or the lack there of. What's a better way to compare vehicles than the 1/4? The 1/8th? lol

[Xavier]

Not to mention that the drag strip is a fairly cheap outlet as compared to a track day on an official road course.

Do you ever think things through before posting?

[jjm4life]

because most of tst lives their life a 1/4 mile at a time.

by the way s4 is still slow. elise owns.

[CleanNeon98]

You're just mad because you can't drive and your STi is still in the 16s.

[SovXietday]

Here we go again...

You know what's ironic about this post. I don't believe ndubz has ever driven on ANY track in his entire life.

[Kevin]

This is why you shouldn't be allowed to make threads lol


Drag racing is drag racing. so..

[GOULET]

more redundant and retarded posting by ndubz.

[bl@ckvr4]

It's simple. Drag racing = inexpensive. Track racing = expensive. Not to mention setting a car up to go quickly in a straight line is laughably easy. Just bolt up a giant turbo with support and you're done.

It's the complete opposite with track racing, where spring rates and camber needs to be adjusted perfectly in order to get a decent time. Most people don't have the resources to pursue track racing.

Track racing requires many different aspects of upgrades, from brakes to suspension. Track racing also puts considerable stress on just about every part of a car. After a hard 5 lap session, my brakes almost caught fire!

I used to think drag racing was all-that-and-a-bag-of-chips until I actually drove my car on a circuit. I can honestly say that I don't think I will ever participate in a 1/4 miles race ever again, unless of course I run into something fun on the street. Track racing is a phenomenal experience that is a lot more enjoyable and entertaining than drag racing will ever be.

[DC2.2GSR]

Originally Posted by GOULET

more redundant and retarded posting by ndubz.

yep, more of the same. every random thought gets made into a worthless thread.

[jdm free]

Originally Posted by Xavier

Not to mention that the drag strip is a fairly cheap outlet as compared to a track day on an official road course.

Do you ever think things through before posting?

Originally Posted by CleanNeon98

You're just mad because you can't drive and your STi is still in the 16s.

Originally Posted by SovXietday

Here we go again...

You know what's ironic about this post. I don't believe ndubz has ever driven on ANY track in his entire life.

Originally Posted by Kevin

This is why you shouldn't be allowed to make threads lol


Drag racing is drag racing. so..

Originally Posted by GOULET

more redundant and retarded posting by ndubz.

Originally Posted by DC2.2GSR

yep, more of the same. every random thought gets made into a worthless thread.

oooh burned.


1/4 mile is the easiest way to do things. but i rarely see what you are talking about

[Evolved]

This.

Originally Posted by phate1229

Because it's easy for just about everybody here to get to the strip at least once.

[MANLYmiata]

Originally Posted by ndubz

It just seems that whenever we talk about a car as being fast or not, the first thing ppl do is say, "well it does the 1/4 mile in XX.XX at XXXmph". Now this is fine if ur talking about a drag racing car, but if ur talking about like ad elise or an audi S4. Then the 1/4 mile does not define them. The quarter only matters for drag racing cars. And i think its hilarious that alot of ppl with STis, evos, m3s, etc. Are so fixated on drag racing. Muscle car guys yes, that is the purpose of one. But the others, No. The 1/4 mile doesnt mean **** to a rally car, or to a car that was made for the Nurburgring. So why cant ppl see this. Cuz it really makes me wonder how much some ppl know about cars. Ad I laugh because for like an elise, the 1/4 mile is pointless. Heres an example. If a guy with a mustang claims to have defeated a Ferrari F430. Id ask him how. If he said that he beat it in a 1/4 mile drag race, then id tell him he is only 1/3 of the way to beating the ferrari. The F430 is designed to go around the racetrack. Road courses like Fiorano, NJMP, Mugello, etc. So if his mustang can beat the F430 around tracks like those, then it can be said that he has defeated the F430. Different cars are designed for different things. So if u cant beat a car at what it is made for, then u havent won ****. Id like to see a drag spec mustang with 800whp even come close to beating a lotus Exige around a track like road atlanta. At the same time the exige has no chance if it were a straight line race.

So why does everyone look at all cars as if they were dragsters? because that is a very simplistic way to see cars.

same reason u have a fixation with chodes.

[sean3]

TSTs fixation? Unless you've been under a rock for the last many decades, drag racing has always been America's "fixation". You can go drag racing for 15 bucks a night. No 300+ dollar entrance fees, no weekend long events, no need to travel absurd distances to get to the track, no need to find a place to stay at, you don't have to worry about crashing your car (well, you still can...), you don't go through a full set of tires and brake pads in a night at the track, you don't need to worry about the massive amounts of stress OT racing puts on your suspension, braking system, and motor. Serious OT requires a dedicated car, trailer, and deep pockets.

Id like to see a drag spec mustang with 800whp even come close to beating a lotus Exige around a track like road atlanta.

An 800whp mustang would smack a factory exige around road atlanta with proper suspension setup. You don't need to be "drag spec" (whatever that means) to have an 800whp car.

[ndubz]

Originally Posted by bl@ckvr4

It's simple. Drag racing = inexpensive. Track racing = expensive. Not to mention setting a car up to go quickly in a straight line is laughably easy. Just bolt up a giant turbo with support and you're done.

It's the complete opposite with track racing, where spring rates and camber needs to be adjusted perfectly in order to get a decent time. Most people don't have the resources to pursue track racing.

Track racing requires many different aspects of upgrades, from brakes to suspension. Track racing also puts considerable stress on just about every part of a car. After a hard 5 lap session, my brakes almost caught fire!

I used to think drag racing was all-that-and-a-bag-of-chips until I actually drove my car on a circuit. I can honestly say that I don't think I will ever participate in a 1/4 miles race ever again, unless of course I run into something fun on the street. Track racing is a phenomenal experience that is a lot more enjoyable and entertaining than drag racing will ever be.

This is kinda what i mean here. I dont have a probem with the 1/4 races, except for thats how everyone judges every car regardless of what it is. Say theres a car like the 9ff GT9, a car that has 1000+ hp and runs something like 12s in the 1/4 mile, but it doesnt hit its stride until like 120mph or so, and then it goes like a bat outta hell all the way up to 250mph. Alot of ppl on this site would say that that car is slow because it runs 12s and has 1000hp. But 250 is definitely NOT slow.

I guess i just personally like to look at cars in a more "big picture" perspective. A car that can go fast in a straight line as well as corner is infinitely more impressive to me. But i do understand ur point about cost and drag racing being cheap and easy.

And Mr Redwheelz, u are correct, I have not been to the track yet other than to spectate. I plan on doing some racing school this summer. But maybe that has something to do with why i see this the way i do. The roads around me are quite interesting. Alot of very intense back roads that are alot of fun. It just makes going in a straight line over and over seem a bit boring after a while. Im know there are similar roads in PA. But maybe my opinion will change once i take my car on the strip a few times. you never know.

I was just wondering why draging is all i seem to hear about when the question of a car being fast or not comes up. But i guess we are still doing things the "american way" even though the range of cars has expanded.

And ManlyMiata Bitty, That was unnecessary and off topic. This thread is a question about drag racing. Not about what u were paid to stick in ur mouth this weekend. plz keep all that to urself. thanx

[3rdGenMr2Girl]

Of course the 1/4 mile isn't a measurement of every aspect of the car, but as far as quickness, it's a good way to measure. It won't tell how well a car handles, but if your car runs 11s it's not going to be slow.