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sillyeye · 01-12-2009, 03:50 AM

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/C...ain_210547.htm

another vid of the dyno #'s

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/C...ies_210570.htm

CleanNeon98 · 01-12-2009, 03:57 AM

That's not gonna end well..

420sx · 01-12-2009, 04:01 AM

Hahaha 26g... even if the motor was built as the reciept described, it still wouldnt be worth no 26g.

Keeper1343 · 01-12-2009, 06:42 AM

How do you figure it wouldn't total that high??? Those parts for that car cost alot of money. Then on top of it.... the labor. So yea the 26K is believable. I can find you 26K dollars Honda motors if you would like.

sillyeye · 01-12-2009, 11:20 AM

$26K and only 5xx whp. You can build a 500awhp DSM nicely done for $10K.

05Accent · 01-12-2009, 11:23 AM

oh wow..

Soon2bG60 · 01-12-2009, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420sx

Hahaha 26g... even if the motor was built as the reciept described, it still wouldnt be worth no 26g.

worth it? maybe.

I cant believe any shop would do t hat, ANY.

franklinhid · 01-12-2009, 11:42 AM

wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

TGilb2007 · 01-12-2009, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sillyeye

$26K and only 5xx whp. You can build a 500awhp DSM nicely done for $10K.

You are comparing building a DSM, to building a C6 Vette.

Lets compare apples to apples here.

420sx · 01-12-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeper1343

How do you figure it wouldn't total that high??? Those parts for that car cost alot of money. Then on top of it.... the labor. So yea the 26K is believable. I can find you 26K dollars Honda motors if you would like.

Im not saying that the prices dont total up right, Im saying 26 grand is a ****ing RIP OFF for only 500 horse. I'm sure with parts and labor and machining, his bill of 26k was totalled exactly right. I would just never spend that much money for only 500 horse.

I might also add that the guys other video- is complete bull****. Cartek dynoed his car at 572 or something? He took it to two other dyno's and made like 544 on one, and slightly less on the other. 30hp is a reasonable difference when comparing dyno's, and hes acting like Cartek faked the numbers. The difference in the numbers was not large enough to definitively say that the higher numbers were faked. That difference could easily be caused by differences in the air temperature, pressure, humidity, etc (all things that the cartek dyno sheet didnt provide, so theres no way of knowing), or simply differences between Cartek's dyno and the other two.

And for the record, I'm not defending Cartek at all (before this, I'd never even heard of them). But I am saying that it is unfair to blame the whole **** on cartek when we only have the story from one uptight, overpaying vette owner. JAEGA-BOMBS!

WRXD · 01-12-2009, 07:01 PM

the first sign was that Cartek billed him for a 24,000 mile warranty on normal ware.

zerioustt · 01-12-2009, 07:13 PM

i know a ton of guys who have gone through cartek with 0 problems...i smell some bs.

crexxy90 · 01-12-2009, 07:18 PM

feel bad for the guy, but honestly if your dropping 26k into an engine i would ride the builders back the whole way to make sure i got what i paid for and knew everything was done correctly.

some people need to look alittle closer at whats really going on when they fork over money for service

eg87 · 01-12-2009, 07:33 PM

well atleast i know never to take my car there, whether its just an isolated incident or if they do it to alota ppl its still ruins the companies rep. if they really ddnt do it they wud have helped him out, not said that he did what he cud.

Sled · 01-12-2009, 07:33 PM

I've heard a lot of mixed things about cartek. this is not the first I've heard of them doing this. My buddy Brain went there with his Z06 and was NOT a happy customer when he came back. they drilled a hole in one of his headers for a wideband and f'd up the coating on them and he already had one in the car and all wired up. plus the car ran pig rich and dumped black smoke when you got on it hard. it ended up running 12.0s like that. he later had Nick Yoskin retune it and the first time out at the track the car ran 11.20s on 18s, big difference!

Sled · 01-12-2009, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crexxy90

feel bad for the guy, but honestly if your dropping 26k into an engine i would ride the builders back the whole way to make sure i got what i paid for and knew everything was done correctly.

some people need to look alittle closer at whats really going on when they fork over money for service

I agree, a build LS7 should cost normally around 11-16k depending on whats in it.

terrorcel · 01-12-2009, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420sx

I might also add that the guys other video- is complete bull****. Cartek dynoed his car at 572 or something? He took it to two other dyno's and made like 544 on one, and slightly less on the other. 30hp is a reasonable difference when comparing dyno's, and hes acting like Cartek faked the numbers. The difference in the numbers was not large enough to definitively say that the higher numbers were faked. That difference could easily be caused by differences in the air temperature, pressure, humidity, etc (all things that the cartek dyno sheet didnt provide, so theres no way of knowing), or simply differences between Cartek's dyno and the other two.

And for the record, I'm not defending Cartek at all (before this, I'd never even heard of them). But I am saying that it is unfair to blame the whole **** on cartek when we only have the story from one uptight, overpaying vette owner. JAEGA-BOMBS!

If you watched more attentively you would have noticed that the car dynoed 470ish WHP and then got RETUNED by a different shop and then achieved its 540whp mark. So no, it wasn't a 30whp difference which I know can be caused by ambient temp, etc. it was a 100WHP difference. Can't really blame that on small errors can you.

james_ls · 01-12-2009, 07:58 PM

Theres gotta be more to this story.

Has Cartek replied to any of this?

assault187 · 01-12-2009, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by james_ls

Theres gotta be more to this story.

Has Cartek replied to any of this?

Why would there be? Shops can be shady, why would this shop be any different?

C-bass · 01-12-2009, 10:09 PM

WOW!...

thats f'ing redic.

01-12-2009, 03:50 AM	#1
sillyeye Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2008 Member #8808 My Ride: 99 GSX iTrader: (17)	Really pissed off Vette guy, watch til the end for final $ http://videos.streetfire.net/video/C...ain_210547.htm another vid of the dyno #'s http://videos.streetfire.net/video/C...ies_210570.htm Last edited by sillyeye; 01-12-2009 at 03:58 AM.

01-12-2009, 03:57 AM	#2
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01-12-2009, 07:33 PM	#15
Sled Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Doylestown PA Member #1475 iTrader: (0)	I've heard a lot of mixed things about cartek. this is not the first I've heard of them doing this. My buddy Brain went there with his Z06 and was NOT a happy customer when he came back. they drilled a hole in one of his headers for a wideband and f'd up the coating on them and he already had one in the car and all wired up. plus the car ran pig rich and dumped black smoke when you got on it hard. it ended up running 12.0s like that. he later had Nick Yoskin retune it and the first time out at the track the car ran 11.20s on 18s, big difference! __________________ TST's most hated! To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. 05-28-2010 Insubordination (Second-Degree) 05-18-2010 Disrespecting Another Member 08-20-2009 Dodging Swear Filter / Inappropriate lang 01-06-2009 Non-Vendor Advertising

01-12-2009, 11:20 AM	#5
sillyeye Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Sep 2008 Member #8808 My Ride: 99 GSX iTrader: (17)	$26K and only 5xx whp. You can build a 500awhp DSM nicely done for $10K.

01-12-2009, 11:42 AM	#8
franklinhid Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jan 2009 Member #10614 My Ride: 94 Civic Ferio iTrader: (0)	wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

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WRXD Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: SEPA Member #1156 My Ride: 2013 Ford Focus ST iTrader: (0)	the first sign was that Cartek billed him for a 24,000 mile warranty on normal ware.

01-12-2009, 07:33 PM	#14
eg87 Tri-State Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: \ Member #5287 iTrader: (0)	well atleast i know never to take my car there, whether its just an isolated incident or if they do it to alota ppl its still ruins the companies rep. if they really ddnt do it they wud have helped him out, not said that he did what he cud.

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C-bass Tri-State Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wonder Emporium Member #2665 My Ride: Ms3 iTrader: (1)	WOW!... thats f'ing redic. __________________ RIP Ryan Sherwood TTT APPROVED.

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