B2 stealth bomber

[den9]

yeah good luck going to mcguire and seeing one, even if they had any there you probably need some special clearance to get near the hangar

[PhillyLS1]

Originally Posted by den9

yeah good luck going to mcguire and seeing one, even if they had any there you probably need some special clearance to get near the hangar

I've had that since 2002

[Scapegoat]

Originally Posted by PhillyLS1

tell ya what... why don't we go to McGuire and see who can get closer to one
Being a strategic analyst for the government has it's benefits, doncha think?

still waiting for you to make a post pertinent to the topic, instead of just implying stuff. if you're not allowed to say anything... then why bother bringing it up?

so, are you saying this was definitely a mechanical error? or implying that these pilots are... infailuable?

[den9]

Originally Posted by PhillyLS1

I've had that since 2002

yeah maybe clearance to get on the base, but not to be able to even touch a B2, they wont even let any1 in the cockpit unless they have a reason, and i dont think they keep B2's at mcguire, i know they need special climate controlled hangars.

[PhillyLS1]

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

still waiting for you to make a post pertinent to the topic, instead of just implying stuff. if you're not allowed to say anything... then why bother bringing it up?

so, are you saying this was definitely a mechanical error? or implying that these pilots are... infailuable?

I'm not implying anything. I just find it humorous, again, that people are sharp shooting the airmen.
I've put my life in the hands of guys like that many times. Ever done a combat landing flying into Baghdad International Airport? LOL change ya life ;). To me? I'd definately look at mechanical failure before any type of human error. Infailuable? No. Trustworthy? Yes.

I don't know if this is common knowledge but the B2, F-117 and the F16 are all fly by wire. So if there is a miscommunication in the system, the plane will crash. You can see the piolet fighting the plane.
The report says all air data was lost as the B-2 pitched up on take off, causing the computer to revert to default flight-control gain settings, degrading the aircraft's control response and stability.
The pilot tried to recover, but was not successful. The video shows the piolet did not have the proper speed or altitude in which to recover the plane from the stall.

There. That better? I can have a full report on your desk by 0600 ;)

Originally Posted by den9

yeah maybe clearance to get on the base, but not to be able to even touch a B2, they wont even let any1 in the cockpit unless they have a reason, and i dont think they keep B2's at mcguire, i know they need special climate controlled hangars.

Well if you want to split hairs, that would get me closer huh? LOL. But yes, at one time I was working for a company that required me to be around weapons systems such as B2 etc. Cool job, just my dad got sick and I had to leave.

[Scapegoat]

much better, thank you. having known nothing about the computer systems... it just seems odd that we haven't lost one of these to combat, or in going to those locations... but we have an issue here?

sucks either way, did the pilot survive ejecting? doesn't look like he's high enough for the chute to deploy 100%

[PhillyLS1]

Originally Posted by den9

yeah maybe clearance to get on the base, but not to be able to even touch a B2, they wont even let any1 in the cockpit unless they have a reason, and i dont think they keep B2's at mcguire, i know they need special climate controlled hangars.

Originally Posted by Scapegoat

much better, thank you. having known nothing about the computer systems... it just seems odd that we haven't lost one of these to combat, or in going to those locations... but we have an issue here?

sucks either way, did the pilot survive ejecting? doesn't look like he's high enough for the chute to deploy 100%

Yes. A piolet can survive even an ejection from the deck. However each ejection makes the piolet shorter. I **** you not.

We never lose any in combat because they are hardly used. They're a cold war weapon. Basically radar systems are passive. The bomber goes in and hits the main battery. That's what they're used for. Once the main battery goes down the sister radar systems go into active mode. Once they go active they light up like a Christmas tree and then the calavry arrives and it's all over for radar systems. This is why no one ****s with America.

[SpEcRv9]

Originally Posted by PhillyLS1

Yes. A piolet can survive even an ejection from the deck. However each ejection makes the piolet shorter. I **** you not.

We never lose any in combat because they are hardly used. They're a cold war weapon. Basically radar systems are passive. The bomber goes in and hits the main battery. That's what they're used for. Once the main battery goes down the sister radar systems go into active mode. Once they go active they light up like a Christmas tree and then the calavry arrives and it's all over for radar systems. This is why no one ****s with America.

interested more in the bolded part and how that works?....i obviously know theres great force invloved but how does that work?

interesting stuff.

[Scapegoat]

Originally Posted by SpEcRv9

interested more in the bolded part and how that works?....i obviously know theres great force invloved but how does that work?

interesting stuff.

i'd wager a guess at the spine being compressed and/or bent further than normal upon impact with the ground

[PhillyLS1]

Originally Posted by SpEcRv9

interested more in the bolded part and how that works?....i obviously know theres great force invloved but how does that work?

interesting stuff.

The force of the ejection is approximately 150g forces per second. This has a compressing effect on the spine. This sort of trauma also happens to soldiers exposed to blunt force as well. Such as a fall or an improvised explosive device.
The instantaneous G force associated with the rocket motor assist of the seat is around 20 G's all said and done. The spine compresses about 3 inches and the pilot that has ejected may lose 1/2 inch of height permanently.

That's why they can eject from the deck.

I'm heading to bed I do this crap all day, i shouldn't be doing it when I come to look at car forums lol

[DropTopChevy]

Blah blah blah.

I like how there are a few instances of espionage in the aircraft and engine companies.

[ndubz]

The flying wing design is extremely unstable. The B2 is kept in the air by computers that constantly make adjustments. If those computer f*ck up, then its Bye Bye Stealth Bomber.

[Chair-Force]

Originally Posted by PhillyLS1

tell ya what... why don't we go to McGuire and see who can get closer to one
Being a strategic analyst for the government has it's benefits, doncha think?

I'm not a guru but I have to know their payload and capabilities. My point was there are people on here that can't even drive stick and they are criticize'n highly trained airmen.

first off, mcguire doesnt have B2s. second, having a "clearance" doesnt mean ****. any swinging dick can get one (including every military members regardless of job) and having one doesnt mean you can do whatever you want. our civilian rentacops, that are paid a whooping $11 an hour w/o benefits, have clearances so you arent special.

finally, tell you what...why dont you go to my base and see if we dont slam your face into the concrete before you touch the birds?

also, the usaf's leadership are former pilots. they will do everything and anything to not blame their fellow pilots. normally this means throwing the enlisted maint crews under the bus. i've seen it done plenty of times.

[Murderface]

each hour of B-2 flight necessitated 119 hours of maintenance in turn.

Must have been developed in part by Volkswagen.

Seriously though that thing looks cool as hell...it looks like a giant sting ray taking off

[PhillyLS1]

Originally Posted by Chair-Force

first off, mcguire doesnt have B2s. second, having a "clearance" doesnt mean ****. any swinging dick can get one (including every military members regardless of job) and having one doesnt mean you can do whatever you want. our civilian rentacops, that are paid a whooping $11 an hour w/o benefits, have clearances so you arent special.

finally, tell you what...why dont you go to my base and see if we dont slam your face into the concrete before you touch the birds?

also, the usaf's leadership are former pilots. they will do everything and anything to not blame their fellow pilots. normally this means throwing the enlisted maint crews under the bus. i've seen it done plenty of times.

EDIT: Never mind you're an SP, you have no idea what I'm talking about. Not worth argue'n with SP's or MP's.

[Blaise]

Originally Posted by den9

The crash was caused by moisture in the air-data pressure sensors - a known problem, with a known fix that was never written down

pretty simple stuff to fix i bet too

Seriously hope you're joking.

[99civicsibrian]

I've never been up close to a b2 but I have seen f117A and it's dayum cool. I wish I could get that radar deflection technology for my car!
B

[PhillyLS1]

Originally Posted by 99civicsibrian

I've never been up close to a b2 but I have seen f117A and it's dayum cool. I wish I could get that radar deflection technology for my car!
B

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u1ti...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmH4X...layer_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWPBJ...layer_embedded


http://www.radarbusters.com/laser-ja...rm25xtreme.cfm

WORTH EVERY PENNY and it's legal.

[Blaise]

That won't deflect radar (or laser), which is what he asked All you can do about radar (legally) is detect it.

[Chair-Force]

Originally Posted by PhillyLS1

EDIT: Never mind you're an SP, you have no idea what I'm talking about. Not worth argue'n with SP's or MP's.

lol. thats what i thought.