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[capaGC8]

Originally Posted by rayn4eleven

Wow...i follow football thoroughly, and i have to disagree with the both of you. As much as i dont want to start any more arguments...i just dont agree...and then again maybe i didnt read the whole thread... But there is no chance that Ben is a better QB than McNabb. Yes i'm an eagles fan, but besides that, fantasy football changes you and you see football from every angle. Lets compare here...including your discussion on running the ball...even with w. parker. Eagles offensive line...stinks...Steelers: excelent. They create great gaps for their running backs. Their offense is based on the run. So when you're running effectivly and you only need to throw the ball maybe 20 times a game...you're QB rating is going to be outstanding. They also present their QB with ample time off of play action and other pass plays. So when Ben's stats are good, they are highly thankful to their O line...as well as to Ward, Randel EL, and last year...Buress.
Westbrook is a decent RB, but he presents an even bigger chalange to Defenses because of his ability to catch the ball in the open field and the difficutly to cover him. But you have to admit that if Reed ran the ball more, gave Westbrook more touch oppertunities...that he would be one of the best backs in the league. Look at his stats from last year...they were amazing.
And as far as McNabb...overrated?? Eat your words my friend. No one says he's the best QB in the league. Cuz he isnt. But one of the best?? You better believe it. 9(?) interseptions last year?? 30+ TD's. He's a fighter and he's playing hurt this year. That is where his weekness lies. He should have gotten his surgery earlier in the year, now its too late and we have to deal with a QB who isnt very mobile. If you're a Defensive coordinater...you base your plays off that fact. Denver showed that perfectly.
Anyway. Eagles have a tough 2nd half to the season...but if they pull together, they may still be able to make the playoffs. But injuries are killing them right now.
I see superbowl 40: Carolina vs Indiapolis

how can you say you're an eagles fan and not see the protection that mcnabb has each and every down. on the blitz, he used to step up and take the hit in order to make a play, but he doesnt anymore. McNabb inconsistency shouldn't make you see the o-line as weak. Is it their fault he takes 5+ secs to get rid of the ball? Even Big Ben doesn't do that, and neither did McNabb the last 4 seasons. If he doesn't step up with the next 2 games, the season is over...

[Shades of Gray]

Originally Posted by capaGC8

how can you say you're an eagles fan and not see the protection that mcnabb has each and every down. on the blitz, he used to step up and take the hit in order to make a play, but he doesnt anymore. McNabb inconsistency shouldn't make you see the o-line as weak. Is it their fault he takes 5+ secs to get rid of the ball? Even Big Ben doesn't do that, and neither did McNabb the last 4 seasons. If he doesn't step up with the next 2 games, the season is over...

1. What i said doesnt mean every down obviously...but it does include this years O-line. and alot of the pass plays that involve only a three step drop pass even. Last years was great. This year they cant stop 95% of the blitz because of the amount of pass rushers usually. Last year they were able to handle it. But the O-line is a little different this year. S. Andrews (rookie) is a good player, but he's still learning and maturing, we no longer have Mayberry, and what stinks now is Fraly is out for the season...so thats a real downer...most consistant blocker.
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2. I also highly meant that our O-line stinks when it comes to making running paths. The job obviously doesnt fall on the HB or FB's completely. If you dont have a hole to run through for the majority of the run plays...than you arnt going to be successful. Then again, Reed is predictable...so maybe thats why we cant run the ball. Because everyone and they're brothers know that on 2nd and long...its a run play...usually.

[capaGC8]

i figured that what you meant, but just to say they stink didn't really make sense to me. mcnabb wouldnt be able to complete the number of passes he does without an o-line as good as ours.

as for the run, you're dead on right now - they need to stay committed. even tho this last game was a loss, i still feel they proved they are ready to rely more on westbrook. i wouldn't mind seein more of those 20+ yard screens either.

funny what happens when you give someone $9m and a long term deal - that's the first screen that worked so far this year... hopefully it's a sign of things to come.

[TehWagon]

i just wanted to interject that i'm very ...impressed by how much thought you all are putting into this!

[Shades of Gray]

Originally Posted by capaGC8

i figured that what you meant, but just to say they stink didn't really make sense to me. mcnabb wouldnt be able to complete the number of passes he does without an o-line as good as ours.

Well when you pass 50+ times a game, you're bound to have some completions

[GTIivVR6]

the O line needs more practice on opening holes....they need to do abetter job on picking up blitz...and the tight ends and full backs and even running backs need to do a better job of blocking those blistz's...obviously when the broncos were bringing everybody and their mother to t-off on mcnabb there is no stopping everybody, but thats why we need to run the friggin ball....i agree with cappa...this week we will be more consistant with the run, and hopefully see those screen passes more to westbrook...thats what he was so good at last year....i want to see more of mcmullen too...dude never gets to play now he can finally prove himself...hes supposed to be nice,,i already know reggie brown will be ok

[Silver04STi]

Now Jesse Jackson is getting involved

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...x.html?cnn=yes

[TehWagon]

and nader! this **** is funnAy