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Old 08-30-2008, 01:53 PM   #41
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Please don't argue experience of McCain's VP pick because "she might have to run the country if McCain died" but the truth of the matter is, you can vote for Obama and he doesn't have the experience to run the country.

The fact of the matter is McCain has the experience, Obama does not, stop trying to play "what if games" and putting Palin in the Oval Office already.

And if you want to use some facts, go right ahead and do that to give your argument something to stand on. Alaska has a population of 670,000 people and is the biggest land mass state at a size 600x the size of Delaware. Managing that doesn't seem like an easy feat. But then you got Obama who has no executive experience at all. And no where do you have proof that McCain picked her "just to get Hillary votes" that is just speculation and ridiculous to base your total opinion of Palin on.

Do you honestly believe Hillary supporters are going to be wooed to McCain just because he has a woman VP pic? Or are Hillary supporters going to vote for McCain because they are turned off by Obama, as many statistics have shown. Last I heard that 25% of Hillary supporters are voting for McCain just because they don't like Obama.

Facts please. Facts. None of this conspiracy bull****



You honestly want another Republican in the white house, after the past 8 yrs?
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Old 08-30-2008, 02:43 PM   #42
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Quick economic history lesson folks....Barack Hussein and the Obamanites like to point out that Bush is solely responsible for the crap economy by giving tax breaks to corporations sending their work overseas and all that nonsense. FALSE !! Most of this started when Billary and the Clintones were in control. I can remember the day that my wife came home from her great job at Prudential Financial telling me that her job as well as a few thousand others were being sent to India. Prudential got serious tax incentive from wild Bill. Thanks, dick! Wild Bill also broke down our borders to let in everyone, taking whatever middle class work that was left. Good Job, azzhole. It is funny how dumbass liberals have no memory of those wonderful times.

I am not saying that I support Bush. I think he is a moron, but he is not completely responsible for our troubles. Obama is NOT the answer to the problem either.

Obama wants to tax the oil companies. I really don't understand what that will prove other than more financial ruin. Don't like the 'high cost' of gas???? Don't buy it. Believe it or not...gas is NOT a life necessity. Ride a unicycle you clown. Or, go make your own fuel...oh, that's right, the Dems made that illegal also and jacked up the fines for committing such a horrible act.

Nothing burns my diesel more than some jackazzz wanting government controlled universal health care. Last time I checked, the government is what jacked up the cost of health care with all of their rules and regulations on the industry. Don't like the 'high cost' of health care???? Don't buy it!! Once again, it is NOT a necessity. Become a doctor and fix your own self.

I personally think McCain made a great VP choice, much better than Obama's choice. As a token of my appreciation, I will find a doctor to prescribe me some Viagra and send it right to him.
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Old 08-30-2008, 02:51 PM   #43
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With the choice of Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK) as his running mate, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) is not backing down from oil drilling. Palin is a champion for drilling, the Bush-Cheney approach to energy policy that brought us $4.00-per-gallon gasoline and the rising threat of global warming.

Like McCain, Palin believes that oil drilling is the only solution to our energy problems. “I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can’t drill our way out of our problem,” she says. She supports more drilling in protected areas of the Outer Continental Shelf and the Alaska Natural Wildlife Refuge, once attacking McCain for his “close-mindedness on ANWR.”

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RTFA AND DONT VOTE FOR THEM.
Man YOU REALLY need to research her before you spit some Demecratic spin.

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Old 08-30-2008, 03:07 PM   #44
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No. Because she is in no way shape or form qualified for the job of vice president or even president (should something happen to McCain).

She was a Governor of Alaska for 2yrs. They have a population of 9,000 people max. She has zero knowledge or experience with any forum of foreign policy.

I know you're a McCain supporter, and thats cool. Im not here trying to tell you who to vote for. I think everyone should make up their own mind. But the only thing I'm trying to point out is that her being chosen for VP was more of a political move, then it was in choosing the best person for the job.

There are even reports out that McCain never even heard of her, and only met her once before making his choice. He just wants to swing the numbers his way by trying to gain sympathy from Hillary supporters.

So wait....you realize Obama has no executive experience at all! The difference between govenors and senators is governors actually do stuff. Look how many times Obama voted present cuase he didn't want to hurt any ones feelings. She has MORE EXPERIENCE than freaking Obama. He was a "town organizer" before he was in the senate. He also started his campain for presindency with only 120 something days on the senate job. I was enamored with Obama at first. I loved his speech years ago during the last race. The more I actually looked into him and his "change" I realized he is a fraud. Research a litlle and don't just watch MSNBC. Hell all the news agencys are slanted. Research and make your own opinion.

Ps...So How big of a state is deleware? Just saying.
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Hell all the news agencys are slanted. Research and make your own opinion.

You are right on the money there. Most people only know what their television belches out at them.
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You are right on the money there. Most people only know what their television belches out at them.
Sad part is most people don't realize what party fits most of thier views.
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:47 PM   #47
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Both choices are pretty bad. The way I see it is, this is what you're voting for.

Mccain - **** will stay the way it is now.
Obama - we will get fail, but a new kind of fail.

I'm personally going for Obama. It will only be 4 years and I think we need someone who doesn't have much experience because when it comes to politics, experience = corruption.
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Old 08-31-2008, 12:25 AM   #48
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oil is high cuase bush is in office... his gay family has ties to the oil industry.
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man i hate forums during election years.
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people are complaining that they have no idea who Palin is but she's been around for a long time.
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Old 08-31-2008, 02:31 PM   #52
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And you'd think that price of oil is dictated by supply/demand, but its not at all. Why do prices continue to rise as we have major oil surpluses? Its the damn speculative futures trading and the irresponsibly loose regulations on it.
DING DING DING..... Troll hit the nail on the head. Supply and demand doesn't even make up 50% of the reason why prices are the way they are. It is oil futures trading that investors have been making as a hedge against the dollars poor performance in other countries, that drove up the price. When gas prices were the highest, the dollar was hardly worth more than 60 cents to the Euro. Why? The crap economy. If you look at the value of the dollar in second half of Bush's second term, the value of the dollar fell off a cliff. Who's responsible for the countries spiraling economy? Far as I can tell..thats the current presidents responsibility, is it not?


And why do you think there are loose regulations on it? Hmmmmmmmmmm. Seems like it would benefit those who are invested in oil... Now...who in the government is invested in oil....I can't put my finger on it....
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Quick economic history lesson folks....Barack Hussein and the Obamanites like to point out that Bush is solely responsible for the crap economy by giving tax breaks to corporations sending their work overseas and all that nonsense. FALSE !! Most of this started when Billary and the Clintones were in control. I can remember the day that my wife came home from her great job at Prudential Financial telling me that her job as well as a few thousand others were being sent to India. Prudential got serious tax incentive from wild Bill. Thanks, dick! Wild Bill also broke down our borders to let in everyone, taking whatever middle class work that was left. Good Job, azzhole. It is funny how dumbass liberals have no memory of those wonderful times.

I am not saying that I support Bush. I think he is a moron, but he is not completely responsible for our troubles. Obama is NOT the answer to the problem either.

Obama wants to tax the oil companies. I really don't understand what that will prove other than more financial ruin. Don't like the 'high cost' of gas???? Don't buy it. Believe it or not...gas is NOT a life necessity. Ride a unicycle you clown. Or, go make your own fuel...oh, that's right, the Dems made that illegal also and jacked up the fines for committing such a horrible act.

Nothing burns my diesel more than some jackazzz wanting government controlled universal health care. Last time I checked, the government is what jacked up the cost of health care with all of their rules and regulations on the industry. Don't like the 'high cost' of health care???? Don't buy it!! Once again, it is NOT a necessity. Become a doctor and fix your own self.

I personally think McCain made a great VP choice, much better than Obama's choice. As a token of my appreciation, I will find a doctor to prescribe me some Viagra and send it right to him.
Hmmmm, I'm pretty sure that health care is a necessity to the millions of older americans who need help paying for the prescriptions that keep them alive and healthy. So you're saying you wouldn't appreciate affordable health care if you had none and had cancer? Bull****.

And by the way, I was reading an article the other day and as of the last week of August, Sarah Palin had never met John McCain...so how can he say he has the confidence in someone who he has met in the past three days? He is entrusting this large nation with someone who he has never met...and even though its just speculation, it is a HUGE coincidence that she happens to be a female. I am more than sure that McCain could have found another male like himself with the same views that she has and happens to be more well known...i'm not asking for a response, but just think about that.
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You honestly want another Republican in the white house, after the past 8 yrs?
You do realize that Bush is fairly right ring, fundamentalist Christian, right?

And you do realize that Obama is an ultra-left-wing socialist. Right?

Going for the polar opposite isn't going to fix our problems. Obama wants "change?" What change is that and how will it help us? Change for the sake of change does nothing for us.

McCain is more moderate, more down the middle. He is as liberal as a Republican can go, he could probably call himself a Democrat and get away with it. But if he had the "Democrat" label that would mean he would have all the answers, huh? Cause politics is two dimensional, is that what you are telling me? Politics isn't polarized, it isn't just "yes and no" "right and wrong." There is a spectrum of answers to today's issues and electing someone just because they have a different party label is the most blind sited, narrow minded, simpleton idea I have ever heard. And enough Americans believe that! We are such a dumb society.
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Ha ha the funny thing is...I kinda want to vote for Ralph Nader. I was watching an interview he was doing and he seems so sensible and i agreed with everything he said. He's also 1000 years old and immortal so you know the experience is there.
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She is also sueing the federal government over listing the polar bears as a threatened species. The science was even compelling enough to convince the Secretery of the Interior that the bears needed to be listed. But acknowlegement of this issue, and the potential disruption to development on Alaska’s oil-rich north slope spurred Palin to attempt to stop the listing.
Does she want to open ANWR? Yes. Every politician in Alaska wants to open ANWR. It’s basically a requirement if you ever hope to get elected for anything. Even Mark Begich, the progressive Democrat running against the indicted Senator and Alaskan institution Ted Stevens, is pro-drilling. That’s the sea we swim in up here. There are a few anti-drilling folks, but you have to look hard to find them, and work hard to have them admit it.



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Cold hearted bitch? They're ****ing polar bears. You'll most likely never see them in real life and this existence has zero effect on your life. We're talking about wild bears here, not house pets.
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If he's ever been to the zoo then he has, in fact, seen them in real life. Sean3, that's a pretty ignorant statement, it is that type of attitude which explains why humans have made so many animals extinct.
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Me too, as long as it gets warmer in the winter I'm all for global warming.
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