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240sxDann 01-06-2006 06:58 PM

Random thoughts of a bored teenager...
 
Ok, so I'm really bored, and I figured I'd get all of your opinions on a few questions that have bothered me for a while.

First one:
You know the old riddle, "If a tree falls in the woods, but no ones around to hear it, does it make a sound?". Well my take on that, is no. If there is no living organisms what-so-ever around, it merely makes sound WAVES, which are converted to "sound" as we percieve it, in a section of our ears. So if theres no living things around with ears to "convert" it, par say, it only makes sound waves which is not sound, just vibrations.


Second one:
Color is merely the reflection of certain colors out of the light spectrum. Say you have a big red tool box, when light hits it, it absorbs all the color out of the spectrum except red, and it reflect the red back to your eyes. My question is this: If it is completely pitch black, absolutely no light, is the tool box still red? If its not reflecting the red light out of the spectrum, what is it? Is it invisible?

Yea....idk.....I think about weird things a lot. Lets get some of your opinions. :roll: :rofl: :finga:

2point4DSM 01-06-2006 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240sxDann
You know the old riddle, "If a tree falls in the woods, but no ones around to hear it, does it make a sound?". Well my take on that, is no. If there is no living organisms what-so-ever around, it merely makes sound WAVES, which are converted to "sound" as we percieve it, in a section of our ears. So if theres no living things around with ears to "convert" it, par say, it only makes sound waves which is not sound, just vibrations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound :
Sound is vibration, as perceived by the sense of hearing.

So if you can't hear it then it doesn't make a sound.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240sxDann
Say you have a big red tool box, when light hits it, it absorbs all the color out of the spectrum except red, and it reflect the red back to your eyes. My question is this: If it is completely pitch black, absolutely no light, is the tool box still red? If its not reflecting the red light out of the spectrum, what is it? Is it is invisible?

The toolbox is still red but if there is no light hitting it then it is not-visible. That is why if you hid the tool box deep in a dark closet you wouldn't see it.

Crzyguy972 01-06-2006 07:26 PM

YEA WELLif a plane was on some sort of a converyor belt that matched its speede exactly can the plane take off. justkiding please do not respond to this

240sxDann 01-06-2006 07:41 PM

damn your icon hurts my eyes...

92talonTSI 01-06-2006 07:46 PM

to answer your second question. no it is not red. no light=no color

WrxJC 01-06-2006 08:47 PM

I say......smoke less drugs, and you won't wonder anymore:)

92talonTSI 01-07-2006 02:17 AM

also you say "which are converted to "sound" as we percieve it, in a section of our ears. So if theres no living things around with ears to "convert" it, par say, it only makes sound waves which is not sound, just vibrations."

but you see if u were to put a video camera with a mic, it would record the sounds. so it does make noise

240sxDann 01-07-2006 02:23 AM

ah but I have to disagree again. It would be converted to the "noise" as we know it when we watched the video yes? So.....I still think it makes no noise. And about the colors....what is it then? Invisible? Or just black? And another thing, why is it that when theres no light its all black, and not white? Since white is the absense of all color...if theres no light, and no spectrum of light, wouldn't everything be white? And....I dont smoke drugs! anymore......much :rolleyes:

Mr Tomtastic 01-07-2006 02:33 AM

i've heard something like the second one before. if i remember right it asked 'if a universe existed with absolutely no light, would color exist in that universe?' and i remember something like 'if you bring artifical light(flash light) to said universe, would there be color?'

240sxdann - white is every color of the spectrum combined, whereas black is the absence of light.

Mr Tomtastic 01-07-2006 02:37 AM

if you had a flashlight with a bulb of every color of the spectrum(7 bulbs if i remember right), the light emitted would be white. red, green, and blue will create white light too.

xEJ20x 01-07-2006 02:37 AM

For the first one...

How can a sound exist if no one was present to hear it?

jspek 01-07-2006 05:20 AM

what kind of teenager are you? shouldnt u be masterbating or hooking up with hot 16yo girls?

sesolcSTI 01-07-2006 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240sxDann
Say you have a big red tool box

My dog gets a big red tool box when he gets excited! :lol: Anyhow, stop thinking so hard dude, go look at some pr0n or something. :thumbup:

MuddyREX 01-07-2006 09:50 AM

If I fart and no one is around to smell it, does it really matter?

Bryan 01-07-2006 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspek
what kind of teenager are you? shouldnt u be masterbating or hooking up with hot 16yo girls?

:rotfl:
that had to have made my day

Scapegoat 01-07-2006 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 240sxDann
ah but I have to disagree again. It would be converted to the "noise" as we know it when we watched the video yes? So.....I still think it makes no noise. And about the colors....what is it then? Invisible? Or just black? And another thing, why is it that when theres no light its all black, and not white? Since white is the absense of all color...if theres no light, and no spectrum of light, wouldn't everything be white? And....I dont smoke drugs! anymore......much :rolleyes:

Light is all colors, it just depends on what color of light the object reflects back to our eyes that makes us see that certain color http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color

This is different when mixing pigments to create a color. this is when you get white as the absense of all color, because you mix all color to get black...though when you hand mix black you get a richer color than you would if you used black straight from the tube.

The inside of a toolbox is still red when it is closed. It's simply not reflecting the light waves into your eyes.

The tree makes a sound. It's falling creates sound waves regardless of whether or not anything is around to hear them..they're still being created. That's like asking, if a rockdrops into a pond and there is no one around to witness this does the water still ripple?

The world would still work w/o us there to witness it.

240sxDann 01-07-2006 12:33 PM

LOL! You guys crack me up. But jspek....havn't you seen me in the picture of urself thread? Yea.....that explains why I think about this stuff and I'm not hooking up w/ hot 16year olds. lol. And scapegoat, how do you know that the universe wouldn't just completely stop without anyone around?? Thats one of those things thats impossible to tell really.

Scapegoat 01-07-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 240sxDann
LOL! You guys crack me up. But jspek....havn't you seen me in the picture of urself thread? Yea.....that explains why I think about this stuff and I'm not hooking up w/ hot 16year olds. lol. And scapegoat, how do you know that the universe wouldn't just completely stop without anyone around?? Thats one of those things thats impossible to tell really.

Because it was around millions of years before we were. It's self sustaining and self destructing. We're not the end all be all of existance in this universe or the one next to it. It is what it is, and we're just along for the ride

trentieth 01-07-2006 05:36 PM

could God make a burrito so large even he couldn't eat it?


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