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turbosmac02 03-01-2009 11:31 AM

Anyone go wingless???
 
just want some ideas on how to eliminate the holes with out filling and painting for now....thats further down

xEJ20x 03-01-2009 12:40 PM

Trunk swapping is the easiest

JBWRX06 03-01-2009 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xEJ20x (Post 1259545)
Trunk swapping is the easiest

i agree

ndubz 03-01-2009 06:40 PM

Heresy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Buster 03-01-2009 08:25 PM

dont be a tool, do it right or dont do it at all, theres a whole thread on Nasioc for setting up trunk swaps, or you could keep your perfectly functional spoiler and be original. I should know, I've done all three.

ndubz 03-01-2009 08:30 PM

have fun getting blown around on the highway, and have fun doing nosedives when u get air!!!!!!!!!!!!! :supz:

CarbonIS 03-01-2009 08:35 PM

he won't get blown around on the highway. I'm going to go wingless too. I would either get a cf trunk,
get a wingless trunk from subaru, or get the holes filled. Anything like tape or a plug will leak. Or of course
you could just find someone to swap with, but they are few and far between.

Buster 03-01-2009 08:35 PM

I'm pretty sure none of us get air.... and you'll get blown around just as much with an STi spoiler.

CarbonIS 03-01-2009 08:57 PM

i get air keith, i get air.

xEJ20x 03-01-2009 09:02 PM

Wingless or not....the side aerodynamics of our cars aren't fantastic.

ndubz 03-01-2009 09:11 PM

Buster, i wont need new tires for like 20 years. Do u know why? Because 73% of my trips, wherever i go, My car is airborne :supz:

And the sti wing was designed to work for both downforce and stability. Its not rice.

but w/e to each his own. im obvs just playing around. but for real........ ur all heretics. and will be looked down upon by the fraternity.....

Got Insulin? 03-01-2009 11:15 PM

Sears has rubber plugs that are made for plugging the ports on grills, but they make awesome plugs for antenna and and wing removal on cars. I've used them on two of my cars, and a buddy has one on his Z32 with great results. It's simple, subtle, cheap, paintable, and a good short, or long-term solution until you can swap another or get yours filled and painted.

ndubz 03-01-2009 11:26 PM

http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/image/s_cork2.jpg

Here is ur answer......cheap.......unique..........effective. And hey, u get to drink like 4 bottles of wine in the process. :)

Ender81 03-01-2009 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Buster (Post 1260154)
dont be a tool, do it right or dont do it at all, theres a whole thread on Nasioc for setting up trunk swaps, or you could keep your perfectly functional spoiler and be original. I should know, I've done all three.

I agree swap it or fill and paint. Unless you don't know definitely that you want to keep it off in which case try the plugs but realize they will probably leak in the short term and possibly cause rust in the long term.

Buster 03-02-2009 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ndubz (Post 1260263)
Buster, i wont need new tires for like 20 years. Do u know why? Because 73% of my trips, wherever i go, My car is airborne :supz:

And the sti wing was designed to work for both downforce and stability. Its not rice.

but w/e to each his own. im obvs just playing around. but for real........ ur all heretics. and will be looked down upon by the fraternity.....

I love the STi spoiler for its functionality, but the WRX spoiler works and with the Spec C riser (rare as it may be) works every bit as well. I noticed a huge difference when I was still on stock suspension when I had the STi spoiler on and off, the rear seemed very loose.

Back on topic... Like i said go all in or leave it, plugging the holes is hit or miss, and painters tape will look gay.

WKderF 03-02-2009 12:26 PM

if all of you are done debating things that manufacturers spend thousands of man hours analizing, ill be the helpful one here & give you an option:

http://garagespec.com/catalog/voltex...eza-p-525.html


http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ex+wing+delete


the Voltex wing delete trunk cover. its not cheap, but it allows you to remove your spoiler, mount anothe one if necessary, and go back to your stock spoiler if u wish.

Buster 03-02-2009 12:29 PM

thats pretty cool fred.

CarbonIS 03-02-2009 12:32 PM

i feel like if u wanted to mount another wing, like the voltex one, you'd still have to drill into the trunk....unless it uses previous holes.

WKderF 03-02-2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CarbonIS (Post 1261215)
i feel like if u wanted to mount another wing, like the voltex one, you'd still have to drill into the trunk....unless it uses previous holes.

you would, the delete just serves to cover up the holes left by the previous wing.

CarbonIS 03-02-2009 02:43 PM

right, i was just wondering since the pic showed the voltex v-mount wing on there too

ndubz 03-02-2009 02:45 PM

u could go half way wingless and put some kinda lip spoiler on it that would fill the stock holes. Never seen that b4 but Master Google knows all in his infinite wisdom.

Renegade_ 03-02-2009 02:59 PM

That spoiler delete is slick - get a cf lip spoiler if you don't do the voltex thing, thats the real only other legitimate alternative to dropping the a wing imo

CarbonIS 03-02-2009 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ndubz (Post 1261451)
u could go half way wingless and put some kinda lip spoiler on it that would fill the stock holes. Never seen that b4 but Master Google knows all in his infinite wisdom.

no lip spoiler would fill the stock holes

ndubz 03-02-2009 03:27 PM

o tru, didnt know, but u know what ive always thought would look ill, just the bottom half of the sti spoiler. Obviously the upper part would need to be shaped, but i always thought itd look sweet. A thick, low spoiler.

06WRBScoob 03-02-2009 06:04 PM

the vortec delete doesent look that bad but for $325 i would just buy a wingless lid. Still looking for solutions... I hate my 06 wing and tailights and cant wait to rip them off. Cash flow is all thats preventing that. I really doubt the sti or wrx spoiler acually make a difference that we can feel. Maybe in a race application such as nascar and F1. The sti wing isent even strong at high speeds i have seen them wiggle and shake!

CarbonIS 03-02-2009 06:08 PM

its voltex bro not vortec

rich33389 03-02-2009 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 06WRBScoob (Post 1261777)
the vortec delete doesent look that bad but for $325 i would just buy a wingless lid. Still looking for solutions... I hate my 06 wing and tailights and cant wait to rip them off. Cash flow is all thats preventing that. I really doubt the sti or wrx spoiler acually make a difference that we can feel. Maybe in a race application such as nascar and F1. The sti wing isent even strong at high speeds i have seen them wiggle and shake!

Haha that is so true, everytime I see a STI on the highway it wing is shaking like crazy!

06WRBScoob 03-02-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CarbonIS (Post 1261783)
its voltex bro not vortec


my badd, thanks for pointing that out

CarbonIS 03-02-2009 06:21 PM

hehe no problem :wink:

ndubz 03-02-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 06WRBScoob (Post 1261777)
the vortec delete doesent look that bad but for $325 i would just buy a wingless lid. Still looking for solutions... I hate my 06 wing and tailights and cant wait to rip them off. Cash flow is all thats preventing that. I really doubt the sti or wrx spoiler acually make a difference that we can feel. Maybe in a race application such as nascar and F1. The sti wing isent even strong at high speeds i have seen them wiggle and shake!

A spoiler on a car is the opposite of an airplane wing. And in case u havent noticed, Airplane wings arent rigid. they have to catch the air in a dynamic fashion. The same is true of a car, its just on a smaller scale and the goal is downforce instead of lift. If they werent somewhat flexible, they wouldnt work.

CarbonIS 03-02-2009 09:25 PM

^ He's actually right...

06WRBScoob 03-02-2009 09:39 PM

i am aware of how a spoiler works, in case you havent noticed every race application where a spoiler make acually make a different is rigid. (F1, road race, Nascar) all i am saying is that the oem sti spoiler does nothing but look silly. If you need down force, you are not going to want somthing that will flex and absorb that force. Not to mention most of us on this forum could ever notice the difference of having or not having the oem spoiler on the car other than being able to look out the back window and not have some whale tale back there.

CarbonIS 03-02-2009 09:48 PM

^ He's right too lol

06WRBScoob 03-02-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CarbonIS (Post 1262188)
^ He's right too lol

mannn your hawkin this thread lol both times i responed you were there in seconds

anybody want to start a local trunk lid swap page?
Would love to trade my lid and tails

CarbonIS 03-02-2009 09:54 PM

i want to be wingless. and i will be. this thread makes sense for me lol

WRX_JB 03-02-2009 11:54 PM

I have my Wrx on i can fill up the holes for you and just sell for around the same price as a used one, and charge you less for paint since it will need new paint any ways

ndubz 03-03-2009 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 06WRBScoob (Post 1262165)
i am aware of how a spoiler works, in case you havent noticed every race application where a spoiler make acually make a different is rigid. (F1, road race, Nascar) all i am saying is that the oem sti spoiler does nothing but look silly. If you need down force, you are not going to want somthing that will flex and absorb that force. Not to mention most of us on this forum could ever notice the difference of having or not having the oem spoiler on the car other than being able to look out the back window and not have some whale tale back there.

Nothing is without flex. They just arent as noticeable due to their size. And Btw the stock Sti spoiler is extremely effective. Ive driven a wingless wrx on the highway at above legal speeds, (nothing too nuts though) and it felt noticably less stable than my Sti does with its spoiler. Much less planted at High speed. And let me also say that the spoiler is extremely effective for legit high speed stability im talking VERY illegal here. No personal details on the forum. But it does make a big difference there. Probs a difference between control and having to back off.

06WRBScoob 03-03-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ndubz (Post 1262511)
Nothing is without flex. They just arent as noticeable due to their size. And Btw the stock Sti spoiler is extremely effective. Ive driven a wingless wrx on the highway at above legal speeds, (nothing too nuts though) and it felt noticably less stable than my Sti does with its spoiler. Much less planted at High speed. And let me also say that the spoiler is extremely effective for legit high speed stability im talking VERY illegal here. No personal details on the forum. But it does make a big difference there. Probs a difference between control and having to back off.

i have driven both also, above 130mph the wing adds the stability of a parachute just a slight tug on the back. I am sorry i just dont understand the straight line high speed concept? Are you afraid the car will take flight? The flux capacitor under the wing will activate and cause time travel? At high straight speed you would want less downforce on the tires to create less rolling resistance. Big dragsters have them because at 210mph they can still break the rear end loose. Wingless STI 6th gear redline & no issues. Of course this is on an abandon closed off road. :)

ndubz 03-04-2009 12:24 AM

O of course, I am deff gonna have to disagree with u here on this one. Its not about high speed alone, its about high speed stability. And its tru also, that the wing was designed to keep the car level whilst airborne. So i guess we can agree to disagree here.

turbosmac02 03-04-2009 09:10 AM

when i started this post i didnt think we were gonna get into wing statistics....haha...but i think and others have said looks cleaner without the wing....and i m gonna get the holes filled and painted soon!


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