Posers.

[LSHatch]

This has just really been bugging me lately. Especially when I look at the S2000 forums. I'm sure the Subaru, DSM, and everyone else sees these same people.
The so-called "tuner." In my eyes, these tuners are just ricers.

I look into almost every thread on S2ki.com and it's some guys show car that just had $2k worth of "race" parts put on the car, so that it can look "hot" in a show. It's freaking pathetic.

Why put all of these race only parts on your car, so that it can look cute driving down the highway?? None of these cars ever once see any type of racing, they see a judge.

I modify my car to my tastes, to how I want it, to what makes me happy. I've seen so many guys post things like "well, the judges will really love this because it's rare." Who F-ing cares if it's rare? Wow, you waited longer for some super duper JDM piece that in no way outperforms some USDM product.

There's so much I could type about all of this, but I don't really feel like it. I'd rather get some other opinions on this subject.

[igo4bmx]

yeah i usually overnight parts from Japan

[xEJ20x]

Originally Posted by igo4bmx

yeah i usually overnight parts from Japan

Its Ja-Pan.

[S4toSTI]

I know what u are saying, but on the other hand i can see the arguement for some of the rare jdm stuff. Sometime that rare stuff is what people like and it fits their taste more then a plain us made piece. On the other hand i am in full agreement that people who do stuff to their cars to make them purely a show car is silly to what u want to your car, don't do what other people want. Its your car it should be an extension of you and ur taste. I don't know i don't get these kids these days . Ps quick question for all i just got 20's that weight 35lbs. on my sti that will help my acceleration right.

[S4toSTI]

Originally Posted by igo4bmx

yeah i usually overnight parts from Japan

as i put my hands together and bow i will put them on my tab at harry's not yours you noob racer.

[LSHatch]

Example:

Guy on S2ki buys Hayward ITB's. Hayward is a proven company and they aren't some hole in the wall place that knows nothing.

Other "super JDM" guy says, " I would have gone with Toda since they are tested and proven. The japanese tuners use them." ---Whooptee freakin doo! Who cares what they use over there.

All of the 500+hp S2k's are running US made turbo kits, not JDM crap.

[20th1519]

No need to get worked up over it. I can see both sides of the argument. Its thier money and thier car. If they want to spend a butt load of money on things that will get them a trophy so be it. Just be glad you like to drive your car and not trailer it everywhere.

[LSHatch]

No, that's not how I mean it.

I mean it in this way. They buy these "race" parts, talk about how they are "race" race parts, then put them in a show.

[20th1519]

I know what you meant. Sweet avatar.

[FeeJ]

Yeah I agree with ya man. Stupid ricers suck and ruin it for people who do anything to their cars and bring them to the TRACK.

Last saturday I went to my local drift event at e-town, but there was also Honda Day there. it was ridiculous how many ugly show cars or loud farty exhausts there were revving just in line to get through the gate. We are all well aware that they had a tuned honda, thats why they brought the POS to "Honda Day" in the first flippin place. I did see some nice S2Ks though.

An occasional glance at the time board I saw a few 12's, a handful of 13's and a at least one 11. But I saw more 15's and even more 16's then I could believe, even a 17 or 18 =0 that couldnt all be base line checking. </ricer rant>

[sesolcSTI]

Bah, to each his own....no sense in getting all twisted over it! haha.

[xEJ20x]

Originally Posted by LSHatch

Example:

Guy on S2ki buys Hayward ITB's. Hayward is a proven company and they aren't some hole in the wall place that knows nothing.

Other "super JDM" guy says, " I would have gone with Toda since they are tested and proven. The japanese tuners use them." ---Whooptee freakin doo! Who cares what they use over there.

All of the 500+hp S2k's are running US made turbo kits, not JDM crap.

His name wouldn't happen to be Guido something or other.
But I know Frank is plannin on some ITBs later on. I also know you and Frank know eachother.

[yugotdonkey]

Here's a good example of dsm race for show obsession.



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Crane Cams Stage 3, Crower Connecting Rods, MAHLE POWERPAK PISTON SET: (86MM BORE 9.5/1), CROWER VALVE SPRING/RETAINER SET
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[272sWrx]

any idea what that Eclipse made>whp?

[yugotdonkey]

He is on dsmtuners, but I don't think he posted dyno numbers.

[LSHatch]

Originally Posted by xEJ20x

His name wouldn't happen to be Guido something or other.
But I know Frank is plannin on some ITBs later on. I also know you and Frank know eachother.

Damn Francesco. hahah.

[Raven18940]

Yeah, I don't quite get the show craze either, but then if I wanted attention I wouldn't drive a Saab.

[criz]

I have the JDM rear spats on my car... and it def. added 15hp.

I agree with ya Hopper... glad you posted it and brought the subject up

[97TSi]

The only thing that makes me angry is people that claim to be "tuners" when they've never tuned a damn thing in their lives. Putting an exhaust/intake/wheels/etc. on your car does not make you a tuner. When you actually dive in and start to modify fuel/timing/suspension/whatever then you can call yourself a tuner. The other thing I hate is the negative responses I get from being associated w/the retards. People see a big muffler and c/f hood on my car and immediately think I'm the same as dumbass over there w/his CRX and ****ty exhaust that makes a bunch of noise and goes nowhere. But then again, I hate everyone.

[garyk]

its a big whatever....however, i love when one of those types shows up at an event where i am instructing (on track, road courses)...then blow their doors off......personally i would rather "go" than show....