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S4toSTI · 03-24-2007, 09:28 PM

So as time progresses and I use my d200 more and i edit more photos in raw i really see the benefits of it. I don't know how good i am in the actual adjustments i am sure there is a lot i can learn. So lets hear/see some tips and tricks to editting photos in raw. No need to give away your big secrets(if you have them) just share some helpful stuff i know this can help me and i am sure it could be useful to alot of others as well.

I may have not been clear before i am looking for help here, not showing off my pics.

Here are a few examples of how i see its benefits...

jspek · 03-24-2007, 09:29 PM

didnt george and i yell at you that night after the meet about shooting in raw?

Buster · 03-24-2007, 09:32 PM

I wish i could learnt cameras

Vypurr · 03-24-2007, 09:41 PM

Sooo....How are you pulling so much more color out of those pictures without making everything in the entire picture overbright and bad?

whitezenki · 03-24-2007, 09:43 PM

im assuming contrast and saturation

i like rice · 03-24-2007, 10:02 PM

sorry bro, oversaturated colors aren't my thing.

S4toSTI · 03-24-2007, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i like rice

sorry bro, oversaturated colors aren't my thing.

Sweet thanks for being helpful.

mr_eh · 03-24-2007, 10:26 PM

well that has nothing to do with raw or not, your using destructive editing in both of those pictures and hurting the overall image... it looks like you just brought bright/satur UP usually you have to lower one and raise the other... example;

also what program are you using to edit? photoshop? if so try saving as a jpg on the highest quality settings

this was shot with a 5.1 megapixel cybershot dsc-p93

S4toSTI · 03-24-2007, 10:34 PM

Original

Over Saturated

New edit

Maybe something alittle more like this?

whitezenki · 03-24-2007, 10:35 PM

put the one you edited next to it, it makes it easier to compare...

just an idea?

Spocknasty · 03-24-2007, 10:41 PM

...Example I edited last night.

RAW format helps me optimize my images by enabling me to create several copies of the same image catering to my highlights, shadows, and midtones.

If you try to add contrast, you will blow out highlights and oversaturate colors.

I'll usually create several images and combine them in one Photoshop file. I will literally edit the photo piece by piece...making sure every inch of the photo looks good.

Vypurr · 03-24-2007, 10:45 PM

So you will create one where the paint looks good, one where the background looks good, and a third (or more) where the headlights/trim look good? Then in Photoshop you chop them apart and put everything into one?

WOW!

whitezenki · 03-24-2007, 10:46 PM

yah man thats intense, i know im not ready for that, and wont be for a long time lol

this thread = me not studyin

S4toSTI · 03-24-2007, 10:49 PM

CRXed you should write a tutorial and do it with that photo thats awesome.

Vypurr · 03-24-2007, 10:54 PM

It seems very similar to HDR Photography then, except it all happens in post processing.

i like rice · 03-24-2007, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S4toSTI

Sweet thanks for being helpful.

what answer are you expecting? There aren't really any 'tricks' with post processing in RAW. Most of the post processing techniques will be done with CS2 once you're done tweaking your colors and other settings.

Spocknasty · 03-24-2007, 11:16 PM

What I mean is that I'll get one good all around image to edit with, and then create a second image where the highlights aren't blown out and combine where necessary. Once I have a good image like the one you see above, I will begin to edit from there. I edit the hell out of pics because I like the slightly oversaturated / surreal look.

sisforsurfing · 03-25-2007, 12:22 AM

Barry - I like the second edit you did to that picture MUCH more. Contrast is almost always a good thing in B&W, but in color too much contrast can be really ugly.

I have a 200+ page book all about editting in RAW, from the basics to some pretty advanced techniques. I can let you borrow it if you want since I don't have much to mess with digital photos at school, it'd be easier than typing what I've gotten from it.

mr_eh · 03-25-2007, 12:58 AM

the second edits better you didnt burn out the lines of the car, the other problem with that image is the reflection on the door is just ****ty to begin with and takes away from the car... but your getting the idea

look at what you did to the rim in the over-saturated image...

Vypurr · 03-25-2007, 01:05 AM

Hmm...Here's my awful attempt!

Raw

Contrast/Brightness

Auto Color, Contrast/Brightness

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whitezenki Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South Jersey Member #3121 My Ride: 1992 Nissan 240sx iTrader: (0)	im assuming contrast and saturation __________________ The Pirates of Death and Destruction set out to annihilate and humiliate through Brutal Carnage. You gonna drive it, or buy it a dress? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-24-2007, 10:02 PM	#6
i like rice Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2007 Member #3858 iTrader: (0)	sorry bro, oversaturated colors aren't my thing. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-24-2007, 10:26 PM	#8
mr_eh Tri-State Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Member #1149 My Ride: Zenki S14 - Sold the SRT4 iTrader: (1)	well that has nothing to do with raw or not, your using destructive editing in both of those pictures and hurting the overall image... it looks like you just brought bright/satur UP usually you have to lower one and raise the other... example; also what program are you using to edit? photoshop? if so try saving as a jpg on the highest quality settings this was shot with a 5.1 megapixel cybershot dsc-p93 __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. no thread for current s2000.

03-24-2007, 10:35 PM	#10
whitezenki Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South Jersey Member #3121 My Ride: 1992 Nissan 240sx iTrader: (0)	put the one you edited next to it, it makes it easier to compare... just an idea? __________________ The Pirates of Death and Destruction set out to annihilate and humiliate through Brutal Carnage. You gonna drive it, or buy it a dress? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-24-2007, 09:41 PM	#4
Vypurr Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Member #58 My Ride: 06' SGM STi / 05' ZX-6R iTrader: (1)	Sooo....How are you pulling so much more color out of those pictures without making everything in the entire picture overbright and bad?

03-24-2007, 10:41 PM	#11
Spocknasty Meh Join Date: Oct 2005 Member #986 iTrader: (5)	...Example I edited last night. RAW format helps me optimize my images by enabling me to create several copies of the same image catering to my highlights, shadows, and midtones. If you try to add contrast, you will blow out highlights and oversaturate colors. I'll usually create several images and combine them in one Photoshop file. I will literally edit the photo piece by piece...making sure every inch of the photo looks good. __________________ formerly CRXed To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. I <3 JSC Speed and Liquid Powder Coats!

03-24-2007, 10:45 PM	#12
Vypurr Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Member #58 My Ride: 06' SGM STi / 05' ZX-6R iTrader: (1)	So you will create one where the paint looks good, one where the background looks good, and a third (or more) where the headlights/trim look good? Then in Photoshop you chop them apart and put everything into one? WOW!

03-24-2007, 10:46 PM	#13
whitezenki Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South Jersey Member #3121 My Ride: 1992 Nissan 240sx iTrader: (0)	yah man thats intense, i know im not ready for that, and wont be for a long time lol this thread = me not studyin __________________ The Pirates of Death and Destruction set out to annihilate and humiliate through Brutal Carnage. You gonna drive it, or buy it a dress? To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

03-24-2007, 10:54 PM	#15
Vypurr Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Member #58 My Ride: 06' SGM STi / 05' ZX-6R iTrader: (1)	It seems very similar to HDR Photography then, except it all happens in post processing.

03-24-2007, 11:16 PM	#17
Spocknasty Meh Join Date: Oct 2005 Member #986 iTrader: (5)	What I mean is that I'll get one good all around image to edit with, and then create a second image where the highlights aren't blown out and combine where necessary. Once I have a good image like the one you see above, I will begin to edit from there. I edit the hell out of pics because I like the slightly oversaturated / surreal look. __________________ formerly CRXed To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. I <3 JSC Speed and Liquid Powder Coats!

03-25-2007, 12:22 AM	#18
sisforsurfing Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Member #267 My Ride: 2003 WRX wagon iTrader: (2)	Barry - I like the second edit you did to that picture MUCH more. Contrast is almost always a good thing in B&W, but in color too much contrast can be really ugly. I have a 200+ page book all about editting in RAW, from the basics to some pretty advanced techniques. I can let you borrow it if you want since I don't have much to mess with digital photos at school, it'd be easier than typing what I've gotten from it. __________________ *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.*

03-25-2007, 12:58 AM	#19
mr_eh Tri-State Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Member #1149 My Ride: Zenki S14 - Sold the SRT4 iTrader: (1)	the second edits better you didnt burn out the lines of the car, the other problem with that image is the reflection on the door is just ***ty to begin with and takes away from the car... but your getting the idea look at what you did to the rim in the over-saturated image... __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.* To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. no thread for current s2000.

03-25-2007, 01:05 AM	#20
Vypurr Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Member #58 My Ride: 06' SGM STi / 05' ZX-6R iTrader: (1)	Hmm...Here's my awful attempt! Raw Contrast/Brightness Auto Color, Contrast/Brightness Last edited by Vypurr; 03-25-2007 at 01:56 AM.

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