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SilverTurboRidin · 04-15-2005, 02:07 PM

Straight from SEMA:

URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT

Pennsylvania Reintroduces Bill to Ban the Use of Aftermarket Exhaust Systems

Legislation (H.B. 1330) that would effectively prohibit the use of exhaust systems other than a "factory-installed muffler” or a “muffler meeting factory specifications" has been reintroduced in the Pennsylvania State House of Representatives by Representative Michael K. Hanna (Phone:
717/772-2283, Fax: 717/787-4137). The bill has been referred to the
House Transportation Committee.

Contact Rep. Hanna and Members of the Pennsylvania House Transportation Committee (List Below) Immediately to Request Their Opposition to H.B. 1330

· H.B. 1330 ignores the fact that aftermarket exhaust systems are designed to make vehicles run more efficiently without increasing emissions.

· H.B. 1330 fails to recognize that aftermarket exhaust systems offer increased performance and utility.

· H.B. 1330 would make it nearly impossible for hobbyists to replace factory exhaust systems with more durable, better performing options.

· H.B. 1330 perpetuates the erroneous assumption that enthusiasts who equip their vehicles with modified exhaust systems are involved in illegal street racing.

Call or Fax the members of the House Transportation Committee in Harrisburg (See List Below) today to oppose this legislation. This bill
unfairly tramples on the rights of vehicle enthusiasts in Pennsylvania.

House Transportation Committee

Hon. Richard Allen Geist, Chairman
(717) 787-6419
Fax: (717) 772-5142

Hon. Kate Harper
(717) 787-2801
Fax: (717) 787-2022

Hon. John R. Evans
(717) 772-9940
Fax: (717) 772-7099

Hon. John A. Maher
(717) 783-1522
Fax: (717) 783-8332

Hon. Ronald S. Marsico
(717) 783-2014
Fax: (717) 705-2010

Hon. Rod E. Wilt
(717) 783-5008
Fax: (717) 705-1948

Hon. Roy E. Baldwin
(717) 787-1776
Fax: (717) 772-9869

Hon. Teresa Forcier
(717) 787-2353
Fax: (717) 787-0860

Hon. Dick Lee Hess
(717) 787-7076
Fax: (717) 705-1835

Hon. Eugene F. McGill
(717) 783-7179
Fax: (717) 783-3899

Hon. Stanley E. Saylor
(717) 783-6426
Fax: (717) 705-1849

Hon. Jess M. Stairs
(717) 783-9311
Fax: (717) 787-0859

Hon. Katharine M. Watson
(717) 787-5452
Fax: (717) 783-8934

Hon. Keith R. McCall
(717) 783-1375
Fax: (717) 772-1231

Hon. Kenneth W. Ruffing
(717) 787-4891
Fax: (717)787-0861

Hon. Anthony J. Melio
(717) 787-3557
Fax: (717) 772-2943

Hon. Joseph A. Petrarca
(717) 787-5142
Fax: (717) 705-2014

Hon. Lawrence Roberts
(717) 783-1359
Fax: (717) 705-2088

Hon. Dante Santoni, Jr.
(717) 783-3290
Fax: (717) 772-2943

Hon. LeAnna M. Washington
(717) 783-2175
Fax: (717) 783-8724

Hon. Frank Dermody
(717) 787-3566
Fax: (717) 787-8060

Hon. Edward P. Wojnaroski, Sr.
(717) 787-7524
Fax: (717) 787-0861

Hon. Matthew Good
(717) 783-6433
Fax: (717) 772-9958

Hon. Mario M. Scavello
(717) 787-7732
Fax: (717) 705-1889

Hon. P. Michael Sturla
(717) 787-3555
Fax: (717) 787-0861

Hon. Michael Gerber
(717) 787-9475
Fax: (717) 772-2284

20th1519 · 04-15-2005, 02:31 PM

Just like i was supposed to have catalytic converters on my last three mustangs.

. I'm gonna order my aftermarket exhaust no matter what they decide.

SilverTurboRidin · 04-15-2005, 02:36 PM

Yeah but if the bill gets passed cops are gonna be nagging everyone.

Twin_Cam · 04-15-2005, 03:21 PM

I cannot believe this. You can't tell me one of those old dudes on the transportation committee doesn't have a '69 Corvette with lake pipes or a '70 Charger with headers and Flowmasters. This is bull****. I hate the government. Every time they pass a law like this I think about switching my party affiliation to Libertarian :thumbdow:

99SL2_Modder · 04-15-2005, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Twin_Cam

I cannot believe this. You can't tell me one of those old dudes on the transportation committee doesn't have a '69 Corvette with lake pipes or a '70 Charger with headers and Flowmasters. This is *no cursing!*. I hate the government. Every time they pass a law like this I think about switching my party affiliation to Libertarian :thumbdow:

Agreed.

The only way I'll go back to stock is if the ****in state of PA, NOT THE TAXPAYERS, pay out of it's own pocket to put my exhaust back on. I believe anyone would stand with me on this, because that's a hell of a lot of work and money. I'd estimate a minimum of 500 a car. minimum. That's a LOT of money they probably don't want to spend.

This is just BS. At least the opposition statements are decent.

SilverTurboRidin · 04-15-2005, 03:37 PM

That would be great because than i could claim a aftermarket exhaust....and use the money for something else lol

1988 Olds · 04-15-2005, 04:09 PM

The bill is never going to happen. So stop worring. On top of the fact there would be no way to tell who had stock what on their cars.

SilverTurboRidin · 04-15-2005, 04:12 PM

Tim with newer cars anything is possible...and there is a big defintion to be able to tell a flowmaster from a stock muffler

1988 Olds · 04-15-2005, 04:54 PM

I somehow doubt some cop is going to pull you over and look under your car to see your mufflers.

99SL2_Modder · 04-15-2005, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1988 Olds

I somehow doubt some cop is going to pull you over and look under your car to see your mufflers.

Not all cars are quite as lucky to have underbodies.

**TROLL** · 04-15-2005, 05:16 PM

this is already a law in colorado, where i lived for 4 years... i had a rediculously loud exhaust... and the only time i got pulled over for it was when i was cruising right through ricer central on a friday night where the cops are out in full force trying to contain everyone. i wouldnt worry about it too much...
bryan

stichris · 04-15-2005, 07:44 PM

It just means if you get pulled over for something else, and the cop wants to be a dick, you can get ticketed.

Chris

Chair-Force · 04-15-2005, 08:16 PM

lol, it will never pass.
For you hicks out there, every county in PA is going to start introducing required emissions during yearly inspections in the next 5-10 years. That has already started happening.

TrboChicsRock · 04-16-2005, 05:18 AM

to everyone that said PA is better then Jersey in previous posts

teh DIRT · 04-16-2005, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrboChicsRock

to everyone that said PA is better then Jersey in previous posts

to everyone who posts whores at 7:30am...(ehem)

TehWagon · 04-16-2005, 07:55 AM

Jess- i was gonna say the same thing! FINALLY a reason NJ is not WORSE than PA!! (sorry to rub in in, PA-ians)

teh DIRT · 04-16-2005, 08:35 AM

wait till they get a load of all our catless exhaust....

SilverTurboRidin · 04-16-2005, 08:55 AM

HEY ATLEAST WE DONT HAVE THOSE UGLY ASS FRONT LIC PLATES

99SL2_Modder · 04-16-2005, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTurboRidin

HEY ATLEAST WE DONT HAVE THOSE UGLY *no cursing!* FRONT LIC PLATES

TrboChicsRock · 04-16-2005, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverTurboRidin

HEY ATLEAST WE DONT HAVE THOSE UGLY *no cursing!* FRONT LIC PLATES

Front license plates??? Is that that thing thats in my trunk?

04-15-2005, 02:07 PM	#1
SilverTurboRidin Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: L-town PA Member #197 iTrader: (0)	PA Bill that would ban aftermarket exhaust systems Straight from SEMA: URGENT LEGISLATIVE ALERT Pennsylvania Reintroduces Bill to Ban the Use of Aftermarket Exhaust Systems Legislation (H.B. 1330) that would effectively prohibit the use of exhaust systems other than a "factory-installed muffler” or a “muffler meeting factory specifications" has been reintroduced in the Pennsylvania State House of Representatives by Representative Michael K. Hanna (Phone: 717/772-2283, Fax: 717/787-4137). The bill has been referred to the House Transportation Committee. Contact Rep. Hanna and Members of the Pennsylvania House Transportation Committee (List Below) Immediately to Request Their Opposition to H.B. 1330 · H.B. 1330 ignores the fact that aftermarket exhaust systems are designed to make vehicles run more efficiently without increasing emissions. · H.B. 1330 fails to recognize that aftermarket exhaust systems offer increased performance and utility. · H.B. 1330 would make it nearly impossible for hobbyists to replace factory exhaust systems with more durable, better performing options. · H.B. 1330 perpetuates the erroneous assumption that enthusiasts who equip their vehicles with modified exhaust systems are involved in illegal street racing. Call or Fax the members of the House Transportation Committee in Harrisburg (See List Below) today to oppose this legislation. This bill unfairly tramples on the rights of vehicle enthusiasts in Pennsylvania. House Transportation Committee Hon. Richard Allen Geist, Chairman (717) 787-6419 Fax: (717) 772-5142 Hon. Kate Harper (717) 787-2801 Fax: (717) 787-2022 Hon. John R. Evans (717) 772-9940 Fax: (717) 772-7099 Hon. John A. Maher (717) 783-1522 Fax: (717) 783-8332 Hon. Ronald S. Marsico (717) 783-2014 Fax: (717) 705-2010 Hon. Rod E. Wilt (717) 783-5008 Fax: (717) 705-1948 Hon. Roy E. Baldwin (717) 787-1776 Fax: (717) 772-9869 Hon. Teresa Forcier (717) 787-2353 Fax: (717) 787-0860 Hon. Dick Lee Hess (717) 787-7076 Fax: (717) 705-1835 Hon. Eugene F. McGill (717) 783-7179 Fax: (717) 783-3899 Hon. Stanley E. Saylor (717) 783-6426 Fax: (717) 705-1849 Hon. Jess M. Stairs (717) 783-9311 Fax: (717) 787-0859 Hon. Katharine M. Watson (717) 787-5452 Fax: (717) 783-8934 Hon. Keith R. McCall (717) 783-1375 Fax: (717) 772-1231 Hon. Kenneth W. Ruffing (717) 787-4891 Fax: (717)787-0861 Hon. Anthony J. Melio (717) 787-3557 Fax: (717) 772-2943 Hon. Joseph A. Petrarca (717) 787-5142 Fax: (717) 705-2014 Hon. Lawrence Roberts (717) 783-1359 Fax: (717) 705-2088 Hon. Dante Santoni, Jr. (717) 783-3290 Fax: (717) 772-2943 Hon. LeAnna M. Washington (717) 783-2175 Fax: (717) 783-8724 Hon. Frank Dermody (717) 787-3566 Fax: (717) 787-8060 Hon. Edward P. Wojnaroski, Sr. (717) 787-7524 Fax: (717) 787-0861 Hon. Matthew Good (717) 783-6433 Fax: (717) 772-9958 Hon. Mario M. Scavello (717) 787-7732 Fax: (717) 705-1889 Hon. P. Michael Sturla (717) 787-3555 Fax: (717) 787-0861 Hon. Michael Gerber (717) 787-9475 Fax: (717) 772-2284 __________________ Uhh used to be my dog you was in my left titty Scream RYDE OR DIE I thought you would die wit me Found out you a bitch you can't even ryde wit me Now it's a war you ain't on the side wit me To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

04-15-2005, 02:31 PM	#2
20th1519 Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Erwinna Member #46 My Ride: 2002 WRX Wagon PSM iTrader: (0)	Just like i was supposed to have catalytic converters on my last three mustangs. . I'm gonna order my aftermarket exhaust no matter what they decide. __________________ ---Travis--- "Negative Ghostrider the pattern's full"

04-15-2005, 02:36 PM	#3
SilverTurboRidin Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: L-town PA Member #197 iTrader: (0)	Yeah but if the bill gets passed cops are gonna be nagging everyone. __________________ Uhh used to be my dog you was in my left titty Scream RYDE OR DIE I thought you would die wit me Found out you a bitch you can't even ryde wit me Now it's a war you ain't on the side wit me To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

04-15-2005, 03:21 PM	#4
Twin_Cam Tri-State Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lebanon Valley College, Annville, PA Member #288 iTrader: (0)	I cannot believe this. You can't tell me one of those old dudes on the transportation committee doesn't have a '69 Corvette with lake pipes or a '70 Charger with headers and Flowmasters. This is bull****. I hate the government. Every time they pass a law like this I think about switching my party affiliation to Libertarian :thumbdow: __________________ Jeff '00 Saturn SL2m- slowest car on TST

04-15-2005, 03:37 PM	#6
SilverTurboRidin Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: L-town PA Member #197 iTrader: (0)	That would be great because than i could claim a aftermarket exhaust....and use the money for something else lol __________________ Uhh used to be my dog you was in my left titty Scream RYDE OR DIE I thought you would die wit me Found out you a bitch you can't even ryde wit me Now it's a war you ain't on the side wit me To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

04-15-2005, 04:09 PM	#7
1988 Olds Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Member #201 My Ride: 2012 Chevy Cruze iTrader: (0)	The bill is never going to happen. So stop worring. On top of the fact there would be no way to tell who had stock what on their cars. __________________ 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass Surpeme Classic To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Dynoed at 237hp and 292lbs at the rear wheels. Hmm ran 13.52 @ 103.42 11/10/06 1994 Hunter Green Acura Integra DB7, Stock

04-15-2005, 04:12 PM	#8
SilverTurboRidin Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: L-town PA Member #197 iTrader: (0)	Tim with newer cars anything is possible...and there is a big defintion to be able to tell a flowmaster from a stock muffler __________________ Uhh used to be my dog you was in my left titty Scream RYDE OR DIE I thought you would die wit me Found out you a bitch you can't even ryde wit me Now it's a war you ain't on the side wit me To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

04-15-2005, 04:54 PM	#9
1988 Olds Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Member #201 My Ride: 2012 Chevy Cruze iTrader: (0)	I somehow doubt some cop is going to pull you over and look under your car to see your mufflers. __________________ 1988 Oldsmobile Cutlass Surpeme Classic To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures. Dynoed at 237hp and 292lbs at the rear wheels. Hmm ran 13.52 @ 103.42 11/10/06 1994 Hunter Green Acura Integra DB7, Stock

04-15-2005, 07:44 PM	#12
stichris Tri-State Addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yardley, PA Member #125 iTrader: (0)	It just means if you get pulled over for something else, and the cop wants to be a dick, you can get ticketed. Chris

04-15-2005, 08:16 PM	#13
Chair-Force Tri-State Addict Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Member #278 My Ride: yo st8 driftin, b. iTrader: (0)	lol, it will never pass. For you hicks out there, every county in PA is going to start introducing required emissions during yearly inspections in the next 5-10 years. That has already started happening.

04-16-2005, 05:18 AM	#14
TrboChicsRock Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Member #152 My Ride: 1998 Eclipse GSX, 2012 WRX Premium iTrader: (1)	to everyone that said PA is better then Jersey in previous posts __________________ - Jessica 1998 Eclipse GSX 11.2 @ 126 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

04-16-2005, 08:55 AM	#18
SilverTurboRidin Tri-State Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: L-town PA Member #197 iTrader: (0)	HEY ATLEAST WE DONT HAVE THOSE UGLY ASS FRONT LIC PLATES __________________ Uhh used to be my dog you was in my left titty Scream RYDE OR DIE I thought you would die wit me Found out you a bitch you can't even ryde wit me Now it's a war you ain't on the side wit me To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 signatures.

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